The Trump is terrible thread...

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brighthouse98

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p_rehbein before you judge another,you may wish to look at James 4:4 which fits everyone who wishes to become President,so really as a believer should we even vote at all?? For many of us we do Thank God we have this freedom!! Freedom with great blood shed for us to keep this wonderful freedom! Like everything in life, all things as well as all people come with a cost,Jesus never voted,and what is important is how as allow ourselves to be Led in this process.( Rom 8:14-15) I do not judge another,I judge me! So Jesus will not have to!( rom 2:1-5) please pay attention to verse 4 here. thanks
 

Billyd

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Before we vote, each of us should ask ourselves, "When a decision between following God's Word and following what the majority of the population feels is the right thing to do, is to be made, what side will my candidate take?"

I don't believe that this country will be blessed if we (Christian voters) continue to support candidates who follow the world instead of the Word.
 

Billyd

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Add this to my earlier post. Remember that our next president will nominate at least two (possibly four) SCOTUS judges. Do we need more Godless judges?
 

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I just want to bring up something else to you... yes PC talk is not always the best thing. But, I think biblically there is a GC.... GC as in "G-dly correctness."

Psalm 34:13 Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking deceit.


Matthew 15:11 It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.

Proverbs 29:11 A fool always loses his temper, but a wise man holds it back.


Proverbs 15:1 A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

Proverbs 13:3 Those who guard their lips preserve their lives, but those speak rashly will come to ruin.

Yes, we should call sin sin... we should bring up the ugly. However, restraining yourself from letting your emotions go loose... not controlling yourself is a problem. It's not only sinful but unwise. What are your thoughts on "GC?"
What's worse, speaking from the heart in a non-p/c manner or being part of the p/c thought police and pushing an agenda to control the masses? Make no mistake, p/c cops are not p/c because they care about people and want everyone to get along but rather they have an insatiable appetite to control everyone, especially White Christian conservatives.
 
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Now you're getting it..... who else would be left? Sounds like a plan to me.....whether her or another democrat.
What are you all going to do when Trump wins the Republican nomination? Vote for Hillary?
hmmmmm Hitler or Stalin....... I guess I just wont vote because Democracy is evil and Anarcho-capitalism should be society's structure. Heck, I would even take Anarcho-communism over a Democratic Republic.
 
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Mitspa

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I just want to bring up something else to you... yes PC talk is not always the best thing. But, I think biblically there is a GC.... GC as in "G-dly correctness."

Psalm 34:13 Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking deceit.


Matthew 15:11 It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.

Proverbs 29:11 A fool always loses his temper, but a wise man holds it back.


Proverbs 15:1 A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

Proverbs 13:3 Those who guard their lips preserve their lives, but those speak rashly will come to ruin.

Yes, we should call sin sin... we should bring up the ugly. However, restraining yourself from letting your emotions go loose... not controlling yourself is a problem. It's not only sinful but unwise. What are your thoughts on "GC?"
How can you relate biblical speech to PC speech? PC speech has as its main agenda to silence biblical truth.
 
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Mitspa

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hmmmmm Hitler or Stalin....... I guess I just wont vote because Democracy is evil and Anarcho-capitalism should be society's structure. Heck, I would even take Anarcho-communism over a Democratic Republic.
Cant say that it bothers me that your not voting...nothing personal :)
 
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Add this to my earlier post. Remember that our next president will nominate at least two (possibly four) SCOTUS judges. Do we need more Godless judges?
The Republicans have let us down just as much as the Democrats ... The establishment Republicans are just as wicked as the Democrats in my view.
 

notuptome

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Add this to my earlier post. Remember that our next president will nominate at least two (possibly four) SCOTUS judges. Do we need more Godless judges?
This point will generally be overlooked by the low information voters. Here is where the long term damage is done to our constitutional government. Can you imagine the lack of justice and constitutional rule if Obama is appointed to the SCOTUS.

Only by Gods mercy can we be kept from our just recompense.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Billyd

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This point will generally be overlooked by the low information voters. Here is where the long term damage is done to our constitutional government. Can you imagine the lack of justice and constitutional rule if Obama is appointed to the SCOTUS.

Only by Gods mercy can we be kept from our just recompense.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
IMHO, He will be the first nominee made by a democratic president. Sadly the majority of the 2016 presidential candidates will nominate SCOTUS candidates who have Christian values very similar to Obama's.
 

notuptome

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IMHO, He will be the first nominee made by a democratic president. Sadly the majority of the 2016 presidential candidates will nominate SCOTUS candidates who have Christian values very similar to Obama's.
Only God knows if we have reached the tipping point from which there is no recovery.

It could get real bad before we get out of here. It will get lots worse when we're gone.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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Can you imagine the lack of justice and constitutional rule if Obama is appointed to the SCOTUS.
DUDE!!!! You almost made me just throw up! I honestly don't know what's worse, a pandemic plague, a nuclear holocaust or that freakin' dope on the SCOTUS. :mad:
 

p_rehbein

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p_rehbein before you judge another,you may wish to look at James 4:4 which fits everyone who wishes to become President,so really as a believer should we even vote at all?? For many of us we do Thank God we have this freedom!! Freedom with great blood shed for us to keep this wonderful freedom! Like everything in life, all things as well as all people come with a cost,Jesus never voted,and what is important is how as allow ourselves to be Led in this process.( Rom 8:14-15) I do not judge another,I judge me! So Jesus will not have to!( rom 2:1-5) please pay attention to verse 4 here. thanks

Sounds great until one remembers that Jesus Himself that we would know a man by his works.......And many places in Scripture tell us how and when to judge others..........just saying........the "High Road" has more than one lane I suppose.
 

p_rehbein

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Matthew 7:15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 .) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 .) Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 .) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 .) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 .) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 .) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
 
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Mitspa

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O my goodness ... Trump is not claiming to be a "prophet" ...and look at Trumps children, if you want to see his "fruit" ... You "holier than thou's" are getting a little old.... None on you on this forum are any more godly than I am or anyone that is supporting Trump for that matter.... so just put that hypocrisy back in your pocket, before you get your feelings hurt.
 

posthuman

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... so just put that hypocrisy back in your pocket

ew, don't put it in your pocket - it'll get everything all sticky!

just throw it out. or put it in a recycle bin, better yet. ;)
 

Calmador

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are you looking for a president or a pastor? its about who can get the job done.
I want the most morally upright man up there. Remember David... if I saw things from your eyes, I'd doubt a boy David wouldn't get the job done with Goliath.

I know we don't have the most ideal "Christians" up there... but

At least Marco knows the salvation plan.. and willing exclaims he will let G-d influence him

At least Ben Carson speaks of his faith half the time he opens his mouth

At least Cruz holds his tongue which in scripture its accounted as wise

While Trump has never asked for forgiveness (he admitted he wasn't christian)... speaks like a sinner... acts worse than other sinners

Its common sense
 

Calmador

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You forgot your scripture Calmador. Mark 10:18 "And Jesus said to him,Why do you call me good,there is none good except for God alone! Personally I do not believe any of them are good whatsoever! It is not about being good,it is about who can make our Country great again! Doing something, is far better then saying nothing! Which is what the rest of them are committed to,we have had enough talking! I know many do not like him,that is ok,he will win anyway.He sure has most the Veteran votes! he sure has mine!
I wanted you to correct me. I wanted you to refer to G-d or the bible. Since you hold the bible in respect... How can you reconcile the bible's teachings... I believe some sinners are easily worse off than other sinners. The reason is because G-d ESPECIALLY hates certain sins.

Proverbs 6:16-19

These six things the Lord hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18 [/SUP]A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP]A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.

I think Trump can be seen within these verses. He obviously has two of them just by sheer common knowledge. Those two things are things I don't see in other candidates.

Brighthouse, you are aware that Trump disrespected some veterans that very much deserve our respect... He disrespected veterans that were captured..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxwR9kCbZ0

He also wanted to kick out veterans for legally selling stuff near his hotel... He thought these vets downgraded the area...

#TBT: Trump Didn’t Want Disabled Vets Near Trump Tower, Petitioned to Have Them Removed | Mediaite

What about those vets?

He's not the "best" man to vote for... not for the people... I think the Bible teaches us better judgement and common sense... just studying him and his past would make you realize that.
 

Calmador

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Well the most important thing in life , to me is my faith... I think Trump would be strong enough to defend the Christians in our nation and stop much of the PC nonsense that seeks to silence believers.
Our faith in G-d is the most important thing... we should use that for judgement. We should choose someone who is wise enough to be careful with how we say things. I'm against PC because of its vagueness, blanket usage, but I'm not against GC... a G-dly correctness. The bible tells us to have G-dly filters when saying things... it isn't just say anything.. that'd be sinful.
 
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