The Trump is terrible thread...

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JosephsDreams

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Also, I want to point something out to those of you who are saying that Trump supporters are spewing venom.
It is true that the Trump supporters here have been more vocal and outspoken, sometimes maybe coming to crossing a line.
But in fairness, is it any better that Hillary supporters are outright ignoring or side stepping certain questions that they are clearly being asked?
I actually think the Trump supporters are more emotionally honest, if a bit more outspoken, then the HC supporters.
At least the Trump supporters speak their OWN minds rather then just regurgitating a endless stream of articles.
I think in fact that shows a bit of laziness and insincerity on their part.
So yeah, exchange views and debate fairly, or expect some back lash.
Play by the rules, or expect people to be frustrated with you and not respect your style. Be honest.
As far as I can see, Rachel is the only anti Trump person here that I am aware of that debates fairly and actually address questions asked her in a way that is honest and intelligent.
So no one gets bent out of shape, these are all generalizations I am making.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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As far as I can see, Rachel is the only anti Trump person here that I am aware of that debates fairly and actually address questions asked her in a way that is honest and intelligent.
and yet i seem to have received more venom from the trumpists than any other trump detractor here with the possible exception of one...

so i don't find your argument that the trumpists are simply lashing out at 'emotional dishonesty' particularly compelling...
 
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Voldemort

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i have been pointing out for months now that the trump supporters contribute nothing to this forum except venom and cultishness and a warped and hostile caricature of christianity that would make any atheist giddy with joy at how easy their job of making christians look bad has become...

we have a serious out of control problem here...
This is what I fear the most, honestly.

As disciples of Christ we are suppose to do our best to be like Him. I understand we were born into sin and we have a sin nature, but this doesn't alleviate us from our responsibility to love one another as Christ loves us.

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[SUP]44 [/SUP]But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, [SUP]45 [/SUP]that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. [SUP]46 [/SUP]If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? [SUP]47 [/SUP]And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? [SUP]48 [/SUP]Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
 
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jennymae

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Well, I have stated clearly that neither Clinton nor Trump is a good choice. I have also said, straight out, that I am disappointed and not very happy with the fact that Trump and his supporters are paving the way for the Democrats. I really was hoping Trump was an alternative to Clinton, but it is obvious he is not.

I'm also very tired of those people you call outspoken, line crossing Trump supporters. No matter how much people are sweeping those comments under the rug, it has not been much fun being on the receiving end of those pundits "comments".
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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They should, so which candidate will end abortion the first day in office?
neither...and you and i both know that would be literally impossible...rolling back decades of pro abortion policy will take a very long time and a lot of political work...

the real issue is that neither of the two major party candidates even appears to have a serious interest in rolling back decades of pro abortion policy...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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This is what I fear the most, honestly.
i think your 'fear' of this outcome is well founded...

in fact i think this is one of many ways in which satan has used trump's candidacy to further his own goals against the church...
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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neither...and you and i both know that would be literally impossible...rolling back decades of pro abortion policy will take a very long time and a lot of political work...

the real issue is that neither of the two major party candidates even appears to have a serious interest in rolling back decades of pro abortion policy...
The policy is the vehicle. What is the purpose being carried? When we are ready to look that in it's monstrous face, then maybe Christianity and politics will be closer to mixing.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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can't vote for clinton who is very evil. Murder (abortion) Lies. ect.... what your choices?
there is a conservative independent candidate named evan mcmullin who is working to get ballot access in a number of states...he has already gotten onto the ballot in several states...i think his campaign is worth a look...
 
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Voldemort

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i think your 'fear' of this outcome is well founded...

in fact i think this is one of many ways in which satan has used trump's candidacy to further his own goals against the church...
Absolutely! Hostile division is Satan's cup of tea. He wants us to believe we cannot differ in civility, but only in hostility. As opposed to looking at common ground, we emphasize differences. Instead of wanting to learn, we want people to learn from us. Instead of understanding people, we want to be understood. Instead of having compassion, we want to instigate cyber warfare where instead of punches, we throw insults via electronically.

I think I've seen this movie before... Lord of the Flies.
 
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Mitspa

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there is a conservative independent candidate named evan mcmullin who is working to get ballot access in a number of states...he has already gotten onto the ballot in several states...i think his campaign is worth a look...
He is a Mormon cultist ..under the control of that insane church and their "prophets" and all he can do is give the election to Hillary and anyone with a working brain, knows that.
 
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Mitspa

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i think your 'fear' of this outcome is well founded...

in fact i think this is one of many ways in which satan has used trump's candidacy to further his own goals against the church...
I think its clear who the devil wants in power ...and its not Trump ..in fact we see all the forces of evil in America come together to work against him.
 
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Many people on this forum call Hillary an "enemy" of America.

Others with far greater wisdom know the real truth:








note once again that I am using a CONSERVATIVE source to make my point
I heard that the KGB Is trained to do what Vladimir Putin Is doing to Donald R. Trump

If Putin can playyy Trump like that,that would be a reflection on our Intelligence.

If Trump were POTUS,Trumps narcissistic personality would put the United States In danger.
 

jsr1221

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I think its clear who the devil wants in power ...and its not Trump ..in fact we see all the forces of evil in America come together to work against him.
You're giving the devil too much credit and God not enough credit. Did God not allow Obama? Hitler's Germany? Among many, many others. God knew all this was going to happen, and for reasons we don't know He will use them for His will. If we knew, we'd be God.
 
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Mitspa

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How come liberals go out of their way to ignore Americas true enemies ...and then start wars with folks that are trying to make peace? The warmongers in both parties ..like McCain and Hillary are just wicked people who have a political agenda ..

Thank God Trump has enough sense to want peace with the 2nd most powerful nuclear armed nation in the world!
 
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Mitspa

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You're giving the devil too much credit and God not enough credit. Did God not allow Obama? Hitler's Germany? Among many, many others. God knew all this was going to happen, and for reasons we don't know He will use them for His will. If we knew, we'd be God.
No...but I doubt you have enough biblical understanding for me to explain to you the difference between evil satan inspired powers like Hitler..and those that God raises up to defeat them ..like America did

The "power" that defeated hilter is from God ...not hitler and his bunch
Just the same ..the power that is working to defeat Hillary and her criminal party are those ordained by God.
 
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