This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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PennEd

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I want to stress the following is speculation and Acts 17:11 ALWAYS applies:
Revelation 13:16-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has [a]the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I have always thought that the mark has to be some type of debit implanted device that would be used to buy and sell goods.
But what if it's not? What if it was just a mark verifying that you have been tested and received the vaccination for COVID-19? You simply are not permitted to operate in society UNLESS you can prove you have been vaccinated.

Bill Gates will use microchip implants to fight coronavirus
19-Mar-2020, Biohackinfo News.
Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates will launch human-implantable capsules that have ‘digital certificates’ which can show who has been tested for the coronavirus and who has been vaccinated against it.
The 64 year old tech mogul and currently the second richest person in the world, revealed this yesterday during a Reddit ‘Ask Me Anything’ session while answering questions on the COVID-19 Coronavirus Pandemic.
Gates was responding to a question on how businesses will be able to operate while maintaining social distancing, and said that, “Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it.”
The ‘digital certificates’ Gates was referring to are human-implantable ‘QUANTUM-DOT TATTOOS’ that researchers at MIT and Rice University are working on as a way to hold vaccination records. It was last year in December when scientists from the two universities revealed that they were working on these quantum-dot tattoos after Bill Gates approached them about solving the problem of identifying those who have not been vaccinated.
The quantum-dot tattoos involve applying dissolvable sugar-based microneedles that contain a vaccine and fluorescent copper-based ‘quantum dots’ embedded inside biocompatible, micron-scale capsules. After the microneedes dissolve under the skin, they leave the encapsulated quantum dots whose patterns can be read to identify the vaccine that was administered.
The quantum-dot tattoos will likely be supplemented with Bill Gates’ other undertaking called ID2020, which is an ambitious project by Microsoft to solve the problem of over 1 billion people who live without an officially recognized identity. ID2020 is solving this through digital identity. Currently, the most feasible way of implementing digital identity is either through smartphones or RFID microchip implants. The latter will be Gates’s likely approach not only because of feasibility and sustainability, but also because for over 6 years, the Gates Foundation has been funding another project that incorporates human-implantable microchip implants. This project, also spearheaded by MIT, is a birth control microchip implant that will allow women to control contraceptive hormones in their bodies.
As for ID2020, to see it through, Microsoft has formed an alliance with four other companies, namely; Accenture, IDEO, Gavi, and the Rockefeller Foundation. The project is supported by the United Nations and has been incorporated into the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals initiative.

Digging into what this QUANTUM DOT TATTOO is made of, I learned that it is partially made with PORCINE elements. PORCINE means SWINE or PIG!

We know that Antiochus Epiphanes sacrificed a pig on the altar in the Temple, and set up a statue of ZEUS in the Sanctuary. Jesus talks about this "abomination that causes desolation". And warns us about it happening in the future.

Where is the Temple of God today? Several places in Scripture refer to US, Human Beings as the current Temple of God. Here are just a few:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.
2 Corinthians 6:14-18
Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.

So it is no stretch to say that receiving this pig in my Temple is a nonstarter.

So this will be MY red line. I will NOT take any vaccine. I realize this may potentially cause huge issues with my employer and others. But I will not willingly take any vaccine for this or any other virus. I would rather get sick and die.
 

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I’m not a computer geek or anything lol, but by saying it is unsecured site does that make hacking or any other bad things people do easier or not. like I said I’m not to hip on computer programming and how people get into other people’s business like through hacking computers.
The main thing about 'http' vs 'https' (the 's' means secure) is that data transfers on a 'https' site are encrypted. This mostly (historically) comes into play on a site where business transactions take place. So then - credit card numbers etc. must be protected.

The message you saw more than likely came from your browser informing you that it was not a "secure" site (i.e. - not set up as 'https').

How secure the site is in terms of being hacked is a totally separate issue - whether set up as 'http' or 'https'.

My site does not sell anything (or ask for money). There are no google ads to be seen, or any of that other stuff that none of us really like to be bombarded with...

It is kind-of plain looking (nothing really fancy); albeit, I have tried to "spruce it up a bit" in the past by at least trying to display its contents in an easy-on-the-eyes color scheme.

I am glad you like it.

Some day, Lord-willing, I will be able to continue updating it with new pages.

Everything on my site was written by me (mostly just simple HTML pages).

I wrote the Bible Search program.

Did you try it out?

Pay close attention to the search features.

I think you will like it!

One day I hope to get back to improving it by adding new features to it.
 
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The main thing about 'http' vs 'https' (the 's' means secure) is that data transfers on a 'https' site are encrypted. This mostly (historically) comes into play on a site where business transactions take place. So then - credit card numbers etc. must be protected.

The message you saw more than likely came from your browser informing you that it was not a "secure" site (i.e. - not set up as 'https').

How secure the site is in terms of being hacked is a totally separate issue - whether set up as 'http' or 'https'.

My site does not sell anything (or ask for money). There are no google ads to be seen, or any of that other stuff that none of us really like to be bombarded with...

It is kind-of plain looking (nothing really fancy); albeit, I have tried to "spruce it up a bit" in the past by at least trying to display its contents in an easy-on-the-eyes color scheme.

I am glad you like it.

Some day, Lord-willing, I will be able to continue updating it with new pages.

Everything on my site was written by me (mostly just simple HTML pages).

I wrote the Bible Search program.

Did you try it out?

Pay close attention to the search features.

I think you will like it!

One day I hope to get back to improving it by adding new features to it.
yes I liked the posting of each segment of the Bible and the search engine, i will save it for further use.

probably no ones is going to try and hack readers while reading things on the site, but it is possible though probably highly unlikely but I wouldn’t past anything as impossible among the world.

version type or ability use of multiples might be informative
 
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hmm like search scope three different translations
 

PennEd

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Disturbing piece from an ER Dr:

ER doctor offers lessons on treating Covid-19 patients… Cheat Sheet for Physicians (excellent read)…
Posted by Kane on March 29, 2020 8:07 pm
Categories: Breaking



“I am an Emergency Room MD in New Orleans, class of ’98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients and this is what I think I know.

Clinical course is predictable.

2-11 days after exposure (day 5 on average) flu like symptoms start. Common are fever, headache, dry cough, myalgias (back pain), nausea without vomiting, abdominal discomfort with some diarrhea, loss of smell and taste, anorexia, fatigue.

Day 5 of symptoms- increased SOB, and bilateral viral pneumonia from direct viral damage to lung parenchyma.

Day 10- Cytokine storm leading to acute ARDS and multiorgan failure. You can literally watch it happen in a matter of hours.

81% mild symptoms, 14% severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, 5% critical.

Patient presentation is varied. Patients are coming in hypoxic (even 75%) without dyspnea. I have seen Covid patients present with encephalopathy, renal failure from dehydration, DKA. I have seen the bilateral interstitial pneumonia on the xray of the asymptomatic shoulder dislocation or on the CT’s of the (respiratory) asymptomatic polytrauma patient. Essentially if they are in my ER, they have it. Seen three positive flu swabs in 2 weeks and all three had Covid 19 as well. Somehow this ***** has told all other disease processes to get out of town.

China reported 15% cardiac involvement. I have seen covid 19 patients present with myocarditis, pericarditis, new onset CHF and new onset atrial fibrillation. I still order a troponin, but no cardiologist will treat no matter what the number in a suspected Covid 19 patient. Even our non covid 19 STEMIs at all of our facilities are getting TPA in the ED and rescue PCI at 60 minutes only if TPA fails.

Diagnostic

CXR- bilateral interstitial pneumonia (anecdotally starts most often in the RLL so bilateral on CXR is not required). The hypoxia does not correlate with the CXR findings. Their lungs do not sound bad. Keep your stethoscope in your pocket and evaluate with your eyes and pulse ox.

Labs- WBC low, Lymphocytes low, platelets lower then their normal, Procalcitonin normal in 95%
CRP and Ferritin elevated most often. CPK, D-Dimer, LDH, Alk Phos/AST/ALT commonly elevated.
Notice D-Dimer- I would be very careful about CT PE these patients for their hypoxia. The patients receiving IV contrast are going into renal failure and on the vent sooner.

Basically, if you have a bilateral pneumonia with normal to low WBC, lymphopenia, normal procalcitonin, elevated CRP and ferritin- you have covid-19 and do not need a nasal swab to tell you that.

A ratio of absolute neutrophil count to absolute lymphocyte count greater than 3.5 may be the highest predictor of poor outcome. the UK is automatically intubating these patients for expected outcomes regardless of their clinical presentation.

An elevated Interleukin-6 (IL6) is an indicator of their cytokine storm. If this is elevated watch these patients closely with both eyes. Other factors that appear to be predictive of poor outcomes are thrombocytopenia and LFTs 5x upper limit of normal.

Disposition

I had never discharged multifocal pneumonia before. Now I personally do it 12-15 times a shift. 2 weeks ago we were admitting anyone who needed supplemental oxygen. Now we are discharging with oxygen if the patient is comfortable and oxygenating above 92% on nasal cannula. We have contracted with a company that sends a paramedic to their home twice daily to check on them and record a pulse ox. We know many of these patients will bounce back but if it saves a bed for a day we have accomplished something. Obviously we are fearful some won’t make it back.

We are a small community hospital. Our 22 bed ICU and now a 4 bed Endoscopy suite are all Covid 19. All of these patients are intubated except one. 75% of our floor beds have been cohorted into covid 19 wards and are full. We are averaging 4 rescue intubations a day on the floor. We now have 9 vented patients in our ER transferred down from the floor after intubation.

Luckily we are part of a larger hospital group. Our main teaching hospital repurposed space to open 50 new Covid 19 ICU beds this past Sunday so these numbers are with significant decompression. Today those 50 beds are full. They are opening 30 more by Friday. But even with the “lockdown”, our AI models are expecting a 200-400% increase in covid 19 patients by 4/4/2020.

Treatment

Worldwide 86% of covid-19 patients that go on a ventilator die. Seattle reporting 70%. Our hospital has had 5 deaths and one patient who was extubated. Extubation happens on day 10 per the Chinese and day 11 per Seattle.

Plaquenil (hydroxy-chloroquine) which has weak ACE2 blockade doesn’t appear to be a savior of any kind in our patient population. Theoretically, it may have some prophylactic properties but so far it is difficult to see the benefit to our hospitalized patients, but we are using it and the studies will tell.

With Plaquenil’s potential QT prolongation and liver toxic effects (both particularly problematic in covid 19 patients), I am not longer selectively prescribing this medication as I stated on a previous post.

We are also using Azithromycin.

Do not give these patient’s standard sepsis fluid resuscitation. Be very judicious with the fluids as it hastens their respiratory decompensation. Outside the DKA and renal failure dehydration, leave them dry.

Proning vented patients significantly helps oxygenation. Even self proning the ones on nasal cannula helps.

Vent settings- Usual ARDS stuff, low volume, permissive hypercapnia, etc. Except for Peep of 5 will not do. Start at 14 and you may go up to 25 if needed.

Do not use Bipap- it does not work well and is a significant exposure risk with high levels of aerosolized virus to you and your staff. Even after a cough or sneeze this virus can aerosolize up to 3 hours.

The same goes for nebulizer treatments. Use MDI. you can give 8-10 puffs at one time of an albuterol MDI. Use only if wheezing which isn’t often with covid 19. If you have to give a nebulizer must be in a negative pressure room; and if you can, instruct the patient on how to start it after you leave the room.

Do not use steroids, it makes this worse. Push out to your urgent cares to stop their usual practice of steroid shots for their URI/bronchitis. We are currently out of Versed, Fentanyl, and intermittently Propofol. Get the dosing of Precedex and Nimbex back in your heads.

One of my colleagues who is a 31 yo old female who graduated residency last may with no health problems and normal BMI is out with the symptoms and an SaO2 of 92%. She will be the first of many.

I PPE best I have. I do wear a MaxAir PAPR the entire shift. I do not take it off to eat or drink during the shift. I undress in the garage and go straight to the shower. My wife and kids fled to her parents outside Hattiesburg. The stress and exposure at work coupled with the isolation at home is trying. But everyone is going through something right now. Everyone is scared; patients and employees. But we are the leaders of that emergency room. Be nice to your nurses and staff. Show by example how to tackle this crisis head on. Good luck to us all.”
 
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Looking at the numbers for today of both world wide, these numbers are still clicking the day isn’t over but it’s apparent the coronavirus is effecting far more.

689 seasonal flu deaths today

2,265 corona virus deaths today
"According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season."
According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season.

According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season.
https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/03/17/flu-update
 
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"According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season."
According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season.

According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season.
https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/03/17/flu-update
I posted this find on government agencies debating that very question some time ago, doesn’t look like the issue has been resolved.

https://aspe.hhs.gov/cdc-—-influenza-deaths-request-correction-rfc
 
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"According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season."
According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season.

According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 17 million medical visits and 370,000 hospitalizations. CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness increased to 5.2% in the week ending on March 7, up from 5.1% the previous week. The national baseline for those visits is 2.4%.

CDC estimated that there have been at least 22,000 deaths related to the flu so far this season.
https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/03/17/flu-update
I posted a find in another post on government agencies debating that very question some time ago, doesn’t look like the issue has been resolved since 03 or so

https://aspe.hhs.gov/cdc-—-influenza-deaths-request-correction-rfc
 
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LOL.. I wont start on Ms. Lisa
We were warned to never trust the gov.
We were commanded to keep them in check
To you the gov is almost deity.
You trust them without question.

The high ground is never trust them and question everything.
We have two different starting places ,you and I.
I begin from the starting place of suspicion.
You, as I said, trust the gov without question. You start from the trusted "facts" they feed you.
 
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We were warned to never trust the gov.
We were commanded to keep them in check
To you the gov is almost deity.
You trust them without question.

The high ground is never trust them and question everything.
We have two different starting places ,you and I.
I begin from the starting place of suspicion.
You, as I said, trust the gov without question. You start from the trusted "facts" they feed you.
I trust the government... you are joking right :D

I do not trust Lisa that is for sure.
 
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A month ago there were more than 600 in my city alone.(with the flu....not deceased)
Right, so I’m assuming from what I’ve been reading it is the pneumonia and or respiratory issues that is what takes flu victims mostly and it appears more with covid 19, ive read the flu is a type of Coronavirus also, I’ve read there is 4 currently been around for years.
 

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version type or ability use of multiples might be informative
hmm like search scope three different translations
Currently, the only Bible text being searched is the KJV. This is largely due to copyright issues on every version except the KJV. However, I believe you should find that the search criteria and other features provide for an excellent search capability unmatched anywhere.
 

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In the case of thia virus its necissary to put boundaries because theres too many people not keeping the security measures. Here in Germany we have the same problem. First people were asked to keep simple measures but too many even now think they have to party and mess around.
So the government had to restrict and had to threaten lock downs for most people to follow the rules.
Its sad that people need to be forced into something to do what is right
 

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In the case of thia virus its necissary to put boundaries because theres too many people not keeping the security measures. Here in Germany we have the same problem. First people were asked to keep simple measures but too many even now think they have to party and mess around.
So the government had to restrict and had to threaten lock downs for most people to follow the rules.
Its sad that people need to be forced into something to do what is right
hi dem, good to hear from you, been A while. stay safe and healthy over in Germany.