This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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Moses_Young

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Why are we still talking about this virus?
The experts said the heat of summer would kill it.
Well, it has been hot for weeks now and the virus is still alive and well.
Fake news again?
The sickness is not gone, because it is not caused by a virus!
 

gb9

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wish you guys would stop with the " virus is fake " nonsense, it makes it so much harder for those of us who are trying to spread the truth of the overblown numbers and death counts.

this " there is no virus " nonsense turns folks off to the reality of the virus and fake numbers.
 

Moses_Young

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wish you guys would stop with the " virus is fake " nonsense, it makes it so much harder for those of us who are trying to spread the truth of the overblown numbers and death counts.

this " there is no virus " nonsense turns folks off to the reality of the virus and fake numbers.
Prove there is or ever was a coronavirus, otherwise, the point is entirely valid. There is a sickness, yes. But it is not contagious, and it is not caused by a virus. This fact alone allows the whole world to re-open, and the focus to be on stopping the cause of the sickness, not jumping at shadows, wearing silly face masks and banning travel.

It is like you are arguing whether the Soviets or the Americans were the first ones to the moon, when the fact is that there is no reliable proof that either has been. Or arguing the evils of the Democrats compared to the Republicans. Sure, the Democrats are Communists - anyone with eyes to see can see that. But the fact that the likes of Trump and the other Republicans don't throw these Commies into prison and destroy the key shows you the whole political scene is a charade.

Remember, “there are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root". You who are pushing the overblown numbers and death counts, if you limit yourself to this, are merely hacking at the branches, as the numbers will increase due to the people denied hospital care because of fake corona, and the poverty to come because of the destroyed economic system (remember, all deaths are being linked to corona, if a "coronavirus" test is positive). Destroying the fake virus narrative prevents the scammers pulling the same scam again, because if people understand there never was a virus, they won't be scared next time when Faucci or Bill cry wolf.
 
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Prove there is or ever was a coronavirus, otherwise, the point is entirely valid. There is a sickness, yes. But it is not contagious, and it is not caused by a virus. This fact alone allows the whole world to re-open, and the focus to be on stopping the cause of the sickness, not jumping at shadows, wearing silly face masks and banning travel.

It is like you are arguing whether the Soviets or the Americans were the first ones to the moon, when the fact is that there is no reliable proof that either has been. Or arguing the evils of the Democrats compared to the Republicans. Sure, the Democrats are Communists - anyone with eyes to see can see that. But the fact that the likes of Trump and the other Republicans don't throw these Commies into prison and destroy the key shows you the whole political scene is a charade.

Remember, “there are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root". You who are pushing the overblown numbers and death counts, if you limit yourself to this, are merely hacking at the branches, as the numbers will increase due to the people denied hospital care because of fake corona, and the poverty to come because of the destroyed economic system (remember, all deaths are being linked to corona, if a "coronavirus" test is positive). Destroying the fake virus narrative prevents the scammers pulling the same scam again, because if people understand there never was a virus, they won't be scared next time when Faucci or Bill cry wolf.
You are knowingly and willfully saying that people should not act in accordance with advices on how to not be exposed to the virus. This is not funny anymore and you’re pushing a dangerous agenda.

It is a very irresponsible game you’re playing. You should be ashamed of yourself. Luckily your claims are so far out that nobody takes you seriously.
 

Moses_Young

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You are knowingly and willfully saying that people should not act in accordance with advices on how to not be exposed to the virus. This is not funny anymore and you’re pushing a dangerous agenda.
The dangerous agenda is being pushed by yourself and your comrades who are willing to give our hard won freedoms for an unscientific corona "virus" song. A disgrace to true patriots everywhere.

It is a very irresponsible game you’re playing. You should be ashamed of yourself. Luckily your claims are so far out that nobody takes you seriously.
This is simply a case of projection. I have world leading scientists on my side. All you have are a group of overhyped and ignorant politicians, and behind-the-scenes evil psychopaths who have sold their souls for a bowlful of pottage.

Remember the quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win". From the tone of your post, we are now at stage 3. Make the most of it, because you know what comes next. :)
 

gb9

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The dangerous agenda is being pushed by yourself and your comrades who are willing to give our hard won freedoms for an unscientific corona "virus" song. A disgrace to true patriots everywhere.

This is simply a case of projection. I have world leading scientists on my side. All you have are a group of overhyped and ignorant politicians, and behind-the-scenes evil psychopaths who have sold their souls for a bowlful of pottage.

Remember the quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win". From the tone of your post, we are now at stage 3. Make the most of it, because you know what comes next. :)
that is my point, when you say " there is no virus" , most will not believe you.

and, i would rather hack at the branches , at least i am making progress.

you guys have a 15 pound ax, yet you can't hit the trunk, you just swing and miss, because most dismiss what you say.
 

Moses_Young

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that is my point, when you say " there is no virus" , most will not believe you.
It doesn't matter. There is a grand delusion coming (if not come already), due to the hardness of people's hearts. It is not our job to make them believe. Speak the truth, and whether they believe or not, their blood be on their own heads. Note that the theory of viruses is based on the theory of evolution, which is an anti-scriptural lie. So if one properly and completely rejects the lie of evolution, one can reasonably reject the theory of viruses.

and, i would rather hack at the branches , at least i am making progress.
That's the problem. All these virus scares just don't stop. Whether it's measles, or SARS, or Spanish Flu, or whatever. They just keep coming, based on the pseudo science of viruses. And as we've recently seen, the escalation just keeps getting worse and worse. Now they've tricked people into sacrificing their freedoms for safety, over a cold. No virus has ever been proven. If we take this debate back to the basic science, we can put virus-scares to death once and for all.

you guys have a 15 pound ax, yet you can't hit the trunk, you just swing and miss, because most dismiss what you say.
Don't mistake speaking the truth for whether people are receptive to it. There are a number of shills here, who are most likely getting paid to push the fake narrative. Just because others may not be receptive at the moment, it doesn't mean they won't come around. We may not see that yet, but does it really matter?
 

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GREAT NEWS! Number of Coronavirus Deaths Down to Lowest Levels Since Beginning of Pandemic – Media Silent – Update: Sunday’s Results Even Lower
The number of deaths attributed to the China coronavirus (both actually tested and presumed) reached the lowest number of cases since the beginning of the crisis. On Saturday July 4th the number of cases recorded dropped to 254 deaths.
March 23, 2020, was the last time time the number of deaths for both actual and presumed cases of the China coronavirus were as low as 254, when the total number of deaths reached 181 nationwide.

Update: The results for Sunday July 5th are in and the number of deaths reported confirmed or presumed related to the China coronavirus are less than the totals from the 4th.
The number of deaths on the 5th were reported at 251:
 

gb9

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and that is their numbers, the real numbers are most likely even less...
 

Moses_Young

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and that is their numbers, the real numbers are most likely even less...
Lol. Yeah. Jumped off a cliff..... Died of coronavirus. Stayed underwater for longer than 10 minutes..... Died of coronavirus. Hit by a bus..... Coronavirus strikes again! You couldn't make it up. :) The sad thing is folks actually believe it.
 

gb9

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Lol. Yeah. Jumped off a cliff..... Died of coronavirus. Stayed underwater for longer than 10 minutes..... Died of coronavirus. Hit by a bus..... Coronavirus strikes again! You couldn't make it up. :) The sad thing is folks actually believe it.
and this is why- it is pounded into people's brains non-stop by the propaganda.

i mean, i have saw a article and a local news ( t.v. ) both saying " there are 10,000 people in the hospital in ga. ( my state) due to virus."

well, some of those numbers go back to late feb., early march.

so, even if those numbers were true, ( haha) then that would mean 4 + months for virus.....

folks are sound asleep.....
 

Moses_Young

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folks are sound asleep.....
Sleeping, or zombified? People wake up from being asleep. I'm not sure there's a cure for zombieism... I mean, other than baseball bats, shotguns etc. The usual equipment.
 

gb9

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nah, i cannot support calls for violence.

yes, i get angry at this stuff , but, keep in mind- these people are prisoners of the enemy , taken captive to do his will.

you don't attack prisoners , you try to free them.

which is why i stand against the " there is no virus" . that just reinforces the chains....
 
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Sleeping, or zombified? People wake up from being asleep. I'm not sure there's a cure for zombieism... I mean, other than baseball bats, shotguns etc. The usual equipment.
Yet again you’re showing your true colors. What you’re writing is totally unacceptable.
 
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wish you guys would stop with the " virus is fake " nonsense, it makes it so much harder for those of us who are trying to spread the truth of the overblown numbers and death counts.

this " there is no virus " nonsense turns folks off to the reality of the virus and fake numbers.
https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-tes...g_ODcu-hl612sCjIBSEhkgD_LNR1tIHQkt0QlsLzkqrZA except the tests are very unreliable and pick up the common cold and flu. This is the source of that information
 

Moses_Young

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nah, i cannot support calls for violence.
To be clear, it wasn't a call for violence. Just a furtherance of the metaphor that in some cases, these are zombies we are dealing with, not people capable of or willing to engage in independent thought.

which is why i stand against the " there is no virus" . that just reinforces the chains....
Since when does telling evolutionists that there is no evolution reinforce their chains? One needs to accept an evolutionary view to believe that such viruses are stalking the Earth, constantly mutating to become ever more virulent, despite being unalive. If people are willing to reject the truth of God's word for a lie, they open themselves up to ever further deception.
 

gb9

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To be clear, it wasn't a call for violence. Just a furtherance of the metaphor that in some cases, these are zombies we are dealing with, not people capable of or willing to engage in independent thought.

Since when does telling evolutionists that there is no evolution reinforce their chains? One needs to accept an evolutionary view to believe that such viruses are stalking the Earth, constantly mutating to become ever more virulent, despite being unalive. If people are willing to reject the truth of God's word for a lie, they open themselves up to ever further deception.
again, you are missing the point. ]]

i went to a family gathering over the weekend, and if i would have walked in the door saying " their is no virus" everyone there would have dismissed that as non-sense.

but, when i talked about the overblown case and death numbers , most of them were very receptive.

here is the thing you conspiracy theorists do not get, or maybe have forgot-

you have to lead folks to the rabbit hole and point the way down. then they go or not. but at least they will know it is there.

you guys try to grab others and drag them to the rabbit hole and throw them in.

that approach turns people off, and they reject it
 

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Taking liberties away? Here in the UK our Government is doing a balancing act of cautiously moving back towards normality whilst
preventing loss of life. I enjoyed my first meal in a Cafe this morning for weeks, but still complied with social distancing. In contrast
there were people in Soho Central London last Saturday mobbing together and getting drunk. Our liberties are not threatened by taking the virus and precautions seriously but by idiots who think they know better.
 

Moses_Young

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here is the thing you conspiracy theorists do not get, or maybe have forgot-
If you think it's a conspiracy theory that coronavirus has never been proven, you're missing the point. That no virus has been proven as the cause of the sickness is a fact. Sure, it might be hard for some people to stomach, but facts are facts.
 
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With protesters and rioters all over the country not social distancing and many not wearing masks the Rona is over! Do not tell me to wear a mask or distance. The next person that does is gonna hear the rosary backwards. Done with it.