This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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ev4989

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Okay my friends I thought I would connect with you all for a moment . I apologize for not posting much but between family and friends of my family we are at around fifteen cases now. Some cases are severe with one family member being released after two months in the hospital. Most of the others seem to be doing okay at home.

I was especially worried for one of my young family members but after a week or so she bounced back from a severe case and then another family member came down with it and it was really hard but was released yesterday after two months. She tested negative three times but her symptoms kept getting worse and then it was diagnosed as positive in the fourth test. By this time it has spread to the other family members in the household and in one severity or the other has made it's self present.

I understand that not everyone is of the mind that this is real or not but it is. I understand that not everyone will believe it is real until it is affecting their immediate family and friends. It is a difficult thing for me to ask for your prayers when I see so many that do not see this as real, but I understand that if it is just something on TV by instinct it is easy to set it aside.
LOL!!!
 

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By Reis Thebault,
Lenny Bernstein,
Andrew Ba Tran and
Youjin Shin
July 2, 2020

"The coronavirus killed tens of thousands in the United States during the pandemic’s first months, but it also left a lesser-known toll: thousands more deaths than would have been expected from heart disease and a handful of other medical conditions, according to an analysis of federal data by The Washington Post.
The analysis suggests that in five hard-hit states and New York City there were 8,300 more deaths from heart problems than would have been typical in March, April and May — an increase of roughly 27 percent over historical averages."

....which were added I am sure to the actual corona cases.

What is the real figure?

What will be paid back to the gov(us working folks)?

I would guess the death toll is exaggerated by a huge huge number. 3x most likely
 

EleventhHour

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Okay my friends I thought I would connect with you all for a moment . I apologize for not posting much but between family and friends of my family we are at around fifteen cases now. Some cases are severe with one family member being released after two months in the hospital. Most of the others seem to be doing okay at home.

I was especially worried for one of my young family members but after a week or so she bounced back from a severe case and then another family member came down with it and it was really hard but was released yesterday after two months. She tested negative three times but her symptoms kept getting worse and then it was diagnosed as positive in the fourth test. By this time it has spread to the other family members in the household and in one severity or the other has made it's self present.

I understand that not everyone is of the mind that this is real or not but it is. I understand that not everyone will believe it is real until it is affecting their immediate family and friends. It is a difficult thing for me to ask for your prayers when I see so many that do not see this as real, but I understand that if it is just something on TV by instinct it is easy to set it aside.
It is real. I pray all will recover.
This virus is very atypical in many ways.
The nature of the virus has made it difficult to test.... false negatives and false positives are a problem.
 

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Okay my friends I thought I would connect with you all for a moment . I apologize for not posting much but between family and friends of my family we are at around fifteen cases now. Some cases are severe with one family member being released after two months in the hospital. Most of the others seem to be doing okay at home.

I was especially worried for one of my young family members but after a week or so she bounced back from a severe case and then another family member came down with it and it was really hard but was released yesterday after two months. She tested negative three times but her symptoms kept getting worse and then it was diagnosed as positive in the fourth test. By this time it has spread to the other family members in the household and in one severity or the other has made it's self present.

I understand that not everyone is of the mind that this is real or not but it is. I understand that not everyone will believe it is real until it is affecting their immediate family and friends. It is a difficult thing for me to ask for your prayers when I see so many that do not see this as real, but I understand that if it is just something on TV by instinct it is easy to set it aside.
I have two close friends whose families are in the same place you are. I pray that none of those who are spreading garbage about this virus never have to suffer through what I have witnessed during the past month.

I will pray for you and your family.
 

EleventhHour

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I have two close friends whose families are in the same place you are. I pray that none of those who are spreading garbage about this virus never have to suffer through what I have witnessed during the past month.

I will pray for you and your family.
One case of pneumonia in your medical history can be the cause for you to be fighting for your life no matter your age.

I know several as well ....one in her thirties.
 

SoulWeaver

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One case of pneumonia in your medical history can be the cause for you to be fighting for your life no matter your age.

I know several as well ....one in her thirties.
That sucks, I had pneumonia before.

But a famous pulmonologist (he is director of a big hospital) in my home country was also saying that whoever had Tuberculosis vaccine during childhood had less likelihood to get sick or develop severe symptoms. The countries where we see most deaths like Italy, Spain, are where the general population doesn't get TB vaccine.
 

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I understand that not everyone is of the mind that this is real or not but it is.
If people are getting sick and dying, then something is obviously real; only, some of us are still not convinced that whatever-it-is is exactly-and-precisely what we are being told that it is.

I will pray for your family.
 

Moses_Young

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I have fought against commies and other enemies of the country with a gun in my hands. Don’t you ever even suggest that I have anything to do with communists! Never! That’s a heinous and blatant lie!😡
Whether you realise it or not, by supporting the scamdemic, you are supporting domestic communists. Not with guns, but with something more powerful - your words. And that is a no lie.
 

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Whether you realise it or not, by supporting the scamdemic, you are supporting domestic communists. Not with guns, but with something more powerful - your words. And that is a no lie.
What you’re saying is incorrect.
 

Moses_Young

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I understand that not everyone is of the mind that this is real or not but it is. I understand that not everyone will believe it is real until it is affecting their immediate family and friends. It is a difficult thing for me to ask for your prayers when I see so many that do not see this as real, but I understand that if it is just something on TV by instinct it is easy to set it aside.
Please don't misunderstand. I don't think anyone denies that there is a sickness. What is being said is that its symptoms are almost indistinguishable from influenza, that the mortality rates reported are deceitfully overblown, that media tales of overfull hospitals or morgues or trucks full of bodies are lies, and that there is no scientific evidence that the sickness is caused by a virus or even that it is contagious.
 

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Please don't misunderstand. I don't think anyone denies that there is a sickness. What is being said is that its symptoms are almost indistinguishable from influenza, that the mortality rates reported are deceitfully overblown, that media tales of overfull hospitals or morgues or trucks full of bodies are lies, and that there is no scientific evidence that the sickness is caused by a virus or even that it is contagious.

That's not what I see going on though or how this C-19 is spreading so easily. What I see happening is that out of my own family group only two of those who are positive are extremely ill. One(twelve years old, caught it twice) was very ill but recovered after about ten days both times. The other is twenty seven, she spent two months in the hospital and is now being told that there is damage to her nerves,kidneys,liver and lungs that may never heal.

The actual problem that I see is that they are the only two who have symptoms,all of the rest of those fifteen or so have c-19 and have tested positive because they were told that they needed to be tested because the two fell ill and so they were exposed. So out of fifteen(so far) who have been tested thirteen have c-19 but no symptoms at all and were going to work,the store and home ect. without knowing they have it. No one knows who caught it first and gave it to the others,no one thought they had it until the two began to show symptoms.
 

Moses_Young

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That's not what I see going on though or how this C-19 is spreading so easily. What I see happening is that out of my own family group only two of those who are positive are extremely ill. One(twelve years old, caught it twice) was very ill but recovered after about ten days both times. The other is twenty seven, she spent two months in the hospital and is now being told that there is damage to her nerves,kidneys,liver and lungs that may never heal.

The actual problem that I see is that they are the only two who have symptoms,all of the rest of those fifteen or so have c-19 and have tested positive because they were told that they needed to be tested because the two fell ill and so they were exposed. So out of fifteen(so far) who have been tested thirteen have c-19 but no symptoms at all and were going to work,the store and home ect. without knowing they have it. No one knows who caught it first and gave it to the others,no one thought they had it until the two began to show symptoms.
You do realise that the same electricity affects people in very different ways? Some can get very sick, some are almost unaffected. If the damage to the 27 year old was not caused by the hospital, she may better recover if she is removed from the source of the poison - the electromagnetic fields that made her sick in the first place.
 

iamsoandso

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You do realise that the same electricity affects people in very different ways? Some can get very sick, some are almost unaffected. If the damage to the 27 year old was not caused by the hospital, she may better recover if she is removed from the source of the poison - the electromagnetic fields that made her sick in the first place.

lol, they did not get sick at the hospital,they went to the hospital because they were sick.
 

Moses_Young

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lol, they did not get sick at the hospital,they went to the hospital because they were sick.
Nerve damage is sometimes associated with electricity. Kidney and lung damage are often associated with hospitals - drugs damaging the kidneys, lung damage caused by ventilators. One can sometimes leave hospital in a worse state than when one arrived, irrespective of the illness one had on arrival.
 

ev4989

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Wow!!
"not contagious" "indistinguishable from influenza"
I wonder where this scientific evidence is from?
My 92 yr old great Aunt was put in the ICU do to pneumonia. I thank God that
she is back home and doing better. My question is do you think that she would have
even had a chance if she had the virus...
 

ev4989

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I have fought against commies and other enemies of the country with a gun in my hands. Don’t you ever even suggest that I have anything to do with communists! Never! That’s a heinous and blatant lie!😡
Please don't give these uneducated peon, trolls another listen. I have the upmost respect
for the service that you given to OUR country. As every True American would!!!