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vic1980

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Flavius Claudius Julianus

Roman Emperor from from 361 to 363​



Attempt to rebuild the Jewish Temple

In 363, not long before Julian left Antioch to launch his campaign against Persia, in keeping with his effort to foster religions other than Christianity, he ordered the Temple rebuilt. A personal friend of him, Ammianus Marcellinus , wrote this about the effort:

Julian thought to rebuild at an extravagant expense the proud Temple once at Jerusalem, and committed this task to Alypius of Antioch. Alypius set vigorously to work, and was seconded by the governor of the province ; when fearful balls of fire, breaking out near the foundations, continued their attacks, till the workmen, after repeated scorchings, could approach no more: and he gave up the attempt.​


Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)

Hope you enjoy thee history lesson today Shalom
 

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Something of interest in the writings of Titus flavius Josephus



Philip King of Macedon was treacherously murder'd in the City of Aegaea , by Pausanias , the Son of Cerastes , of the Family of Orestes , Alexander the Son succeeded the Father and crossing the Hellespont , gave Darius a notable Overthrow at the River Gracius.



Alexander upon the taking of Gaza , advance to Jerusalem ; the High Priest ; who shew'd the King the Book of the Prophet Daniel ; and in it , the Prediction of a certain Greek in Time to come , that should make himself Master of the Persian Empire ; which Alexander interpreted of Himself.

- A Collection of the Genuine Works of Flavius Josephus -
pp. 447 , 448 , 449


Coin of Alexander the Great



Alexander the Great, portrait head on a coin of Lysimachus (355–281 bce

Daniel 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

If this historical event did indeed take place as Josephus has given us records , that is amazing.

Hope you enjoy this read Shalom
 

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Great OP. :)
Everything according to God's own plan. And time is not like unto us as it is for God. Not an hour, nor a day, nor a year. I'm just satisfied with witnessing all the amazing history I have in my lifetime. And more is certain to come.
What fun.
 

vic1980

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Queen Margaret of Scotland



This 11th century Hungarian born English Queen , who married into the Scottish nobility , Queen Margaret was a very zealous Catholic , who believed no other Church should exist but Rome.

And was quite surprise that the Scots were working on Sunday , as if it were any other day of the week , why was this she reckon.


Thomas Ratcliffe Barnett ( 1868 - 1946 )



In a Book titled Margaret of Scotland by a Presbyterian minister , who pioneered the way , for the establishment of a orthopedic hospital for children. Wrote upon , the sect that was establish in that location preaching Christ.

Thomas Ratcliffe Barnett said ; " The Celtic Church failed to reverence the Lord's day , employing it for worldly business. In this matter the Scots had perhaps kept up the traditional usage of the ancient Irish Church which observed Saturday instead of Sunday .

It is plain that according to the Old Colomban Rule , what we now call Saturday was consider to be the day of Rest before the Lord's day.

- Margaret of Scotland : Queen and Saint by T. Ratcliffe Barnett -
pp . 97 , 98

This is before , Roman Catholicism came with its pagan exterior of Christianity , for the scripture clearly teach the truth of the matter.



Mark 2:27-28

27And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Shalom

 

vic1980

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James Aitken Wylie, 1808 - 1890



In the heart of the Armenian mountains , the mountains of Ararat , at the centre of the earth , is placed the second cradle of the human family , and to this point are we to trace up all the migrations of mankind.

- History of the Scottish Nation , vol I -
by Rev. J. A. Wylie p. 19



Mount Ararat



Genesis 8:4
And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

Areni-1 cave



Looking out from the Areni-1 cave near the village of Areni in Armenia, where ongoing excavations have unearthed the world's oldest known proto-winery.









Thee Oldest Remains of a Human Brain






Thee Oldest Leather Shoe



Thee Oldest Skirt




Archaeologists in Armenia in 2010 said on Wednesday that they had found parts of a woman's multicolored straw dress that they believe was made around 5,900 years ...


Today younger generation are taught to believe that they are descended from apes , and it is promoted via film and through the most powerful journals . But were did this idea originated from , and who exactly is it's author. Some may point towards Charles Darwin , but who influence him ???



If we put off our physical glasses for a moment and remind one another upon what is written in The Word of God on such matters , it is evident without a doubt that the true author that hold credit to such a bewildering theory is the father of lies Satan.


In hopes that this may help other in there walk to trust God

Shalom​
 

tanakh

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As far as I'm concerned the News Forum is for current news not a platform for Sabbath pushers to
condemn everyone who disagrees with them. By unearthing obscure clergymen and long dead Queens just goes to show how desperate things can get for those who adhere to these teachings.
 

calibob

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As far as I'm concerned the News Forum is for current news not a platform for Sabbath pushers to
condemn everyone who disagrees with them. By unearthing obscure clergymen and long dead Queens just goes to show how desperate things can get for those who adhere to these teachings.
old news is an oxymoron!
 

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why would 'anyone' even be 'concerned' with 'Sabbath-Keepers' ???,
why-when-where???

check your own hearts for the 'why-when-where' -
ask yourselves 'why' you are spending your limited time here on something
that will never be resolved in your own minds/lifetime,...

I suggest, in 'love', that you take the energy that God has given to you,
and try to make the 'best of it', = live your life as Yeshua expects of you...
 

vic1980

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Interesting insight upon the Ethiopia Church and there persecution



Michael Geddes a scottish clergyman recorded the Ethiopian confession to the Jesuits , in his 1696 book titled " The Church History of Ethiopia " it states the following...

" It is not therefore a imitation of the Jews , but in obedience to Christ , and His Apostles , that we observe that Day , the favor that was shewed herein to the Jews being transferred to us Christians. "



- The Church History of Ethiopia -
by Michael Geddes p. 88

But this story does not end here...​


The late English Jesuit Priest Philip Caraman also documents the distinct practices of Ethiopian believers in Jesus Christ.



... on the Sabbath hunting , fishing , and travelling were forbidden ...

Like the Celtic Church in Ireland and Scotland , who were isolated from Papal Rome , the believers in this region keep to the Apostolic Faith , handed down to them from there Elders ...

But Papal Rome who assisted the Ethiopians against the Turks , had there own plans and the Jesuit Priest Spaniard Pedro Paez was to penetrate into the royal court of the Ethiopians monarchy , to cleverly change the dynamics of that culture through there laws.

Jesuit Priest Spaniard Pedro Paez 1564- 1622



Philip Caraman continued in his book , although Paez urged Za Dengel to wait a little until he has received from Rome answers to letters he had recently written and was about to dispatch , the Emperor rejected his advice and publish a proclamation ordering Sunday , not the Jewish Sabbath , to be kept as a holy day after the Roman manner . In his letter to Clement VIII , dated 26 June 1604 the emperor acknowledged the Pope's ecclesiastical supremacy .



- The Lost Empire , The Story of the Jesuits in Ethiopia -
by Philip Caraman pp . 52 , 53 , 67

But Papal control did not go well with the people , and in a book title History of Protestantism a classic work , J. A. Wylie wrote ...

James Aitken Wylie 1808 - 1890



" The Emperor of Ethiopia was gained by flatteries and miracles : a terrible persecution was raised against the native Christians ; thousands were massacred ; but at last the king having detected the authors of these barbarities plotting against his own life and throne , they were ignominiously expelled from the country . "




- History of Protestantism , vol III -
by J. A. Wylie p. 417

It is very compelling to see the exact same ecclesiastical power , using the civil power , time and times over to persecuting the saints of God . It is also interesting to note , how Jesuit historians try to tweak history , just a little in order to seems that there hands are clean from such violence.

Before i leave , this little fact needs to be address , for particular members that have left replies in this thread . I truly have no intentions to address your remarks that have no weight to them , for my years that have been many on Christian Chat , i have never advocated condemnation to anyone on what day they desire to worship the LORD.

For i have stated , many over many times , upon many discussions ...

Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.


But i will address one more view , that scripture clearly proves , the Sabbath is still Sabbath and the First day of the week is still the First Day. Thee Prophets , Apostles along with our LORD , never taught that the First day is thee Sabbath.

But if you wish to worship Him as Romans 15:1 suggest you have that freedom in Christ

Until the next history News Shalom​
 

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But if you wish to worship Him as Romans 14:5 suggest you have that freedom in Christ

Until the next history News Shalom
 

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Soon going to update this thread with great news blessings


Shalom
 

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The Waldenses: Massacre at Castelluzzo


Casteluzzo towers over the valley and town of Torre Pelice as a constant reminder of the persecution that the Waldenses have been through. The 17th century would see probably their worst episode with the massacre at Mount Casteluzzo particularly gruesome. They made the ultimate sacrifice for the cause of truth.

2 Timothy 3:12

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.


History is full of woes and sorrow , yet The Light still Shine . It is very interesting how we acquired much history upon the Roman Catholic Church and the Bishop of Rome / Pope Antichrist decree's . How the Papacy tried to destroy so much truth of God's people , by taking there lives with the sword and fire . Yet there are trustful historians , even those of particular movements that had The Light and share it with others so that they can be freed , in Christ and destroy the works of the devil.


Henry Arnaud



Henry Arnaud , one of the most intelligent of the Waldesian pastors " Neither has there church ever reformed , " say's Arnaud whence arises it's title of evangelic."​

The Waldenses are in fact those refugees from Italy , who , after St Paul had preach the Gospel abandon there beautiful country , and fled , like the woman mention in the apocalypse , to these wild mountains .​

Book Title : The Waldenses , Sketches of the Evangelical Christians of the valleys of Piedmont pp. 28 , 29


Matthew 5:14

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Shalom​

 

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This week in July , history to be remember ...

Jan Hus finds Jesus Christ and is persecuted to death for the truth



Johannes Huss, born in 1369 was a Czech theologian, philosopher, master , dean , and rector of the Charles University in Prague who became a church reformer, an inspirer of Hussitism a key predecessor to Protestantism and a seminal figure in the Bohemian Reformation .

Hus is considered by some as the first church reformer , but there have been many , that stood for the truth before him , men such as John Wycliffie and among others , as he lived before Luther , Calvin , and Zwingli . His teachings had a strong influence on the states of Western Europe, most immediately in the approval of a reformed Bohemian religious denomination , and , more than a century later, on Martin Luther himself. He was burned at the stake for heresy against the doctrines of the Catholic Church , including those on ecclesiology , the Eucharist , and other theological topics.

But was this the true reason to put a man at the stake , or were the religious sect that control the kings in Huss day were Anti-Christ



Crusade against Naples

In 1411, John XXIII proclaimed a crusade against King Ladislaus of Naples , the protector of rival Pope Gregory XII . This crusade was preached in Prague as well. John XXIII also authorized indulgence to raise money for the war. Priests urged the people on and these crowded into churches to give their offerings. This traffic in indulgences was to some a sign of the corruption of the church needing remediation.​


Condemnation of indulgences and Crusade



Hus spoke out against indulgences, but he could not carry with him the men of the university. In 1412, a dispute took place, on which occasion Hus delivered his address Quaestio magistri Johannis Hus de indulgentiis. It was taken literally from the last chapter of Wycliffe's book, De ecclesia, and his treatise, De absolutione a pena et culpa.

Hus asserted that no Pope or bishop had the right to take up the sword in the name of the Church; he should pray for his enemies and bless those that curse him; man obtains forgiveness of sins by true repentance, not money. The doctors of the theological faculty replied , but without success. A few days afterward, some of Hus's followers, led by Vok Voksa z Valdštejna, burnt the Papal Bulls . Hus, they said, should be obeyed rather than the Church, which they considered a fraudulent mob of adulterers and Simonists .

In response, three men from the lower classes who openly called the indulgences a fraud were beheaded. They were later considered the first martyrs of the Hussite Church. In the meantime, the faculty had condemned the forty-five articles and added several other theses, deemed heretical, which had originated with Hus. The king forbade the teaching of these articles, but neither Hus nor the university complied with the ruling, requesting that the articles should be first proven to be un-scriptural. The tumults at Prague had stirred up a sensation; papal legates and Archbishop Albik tried to persuade Hus to give up his opposition to the papal bulls, and the king made an unsuccessful attempt to reconcile the two parties

Hus leaves Prague and appeals to Jesus Christ

By this time, Hus's ideas had become widely accepted in Bohemia, and there was broad resentment against the Church hierarchy. The attack on Hus by the Pope and Archbishop caused riots in parts of Bohemia. King Wenceslaus IV and his government took the side of Hus, and the power of his adherents increased from day to day. Hus continued to preach in the Bethlehem Chapel . The churches of the city were put under the ban, and the interdict was pronounced against Prague . To protect the city , Hus left and went into the countryside, where he continued to preach and write.​

Before Hus left Prague, he decided to take a step which gave a new dimension to his endeavors. He no longer put his trust in an indecisive King, a hostile Pope or an ineffective Council. On October 18, 1412, he appealed to Jesus Christ as the supreme judge. By appealing directly to the highest Christian authority, Christ himself, he bypassed the laws and structures of the medieval Church. For the Bohemian Reformation , this step was as significant as the 95 theses posted in Wittenberg by Martin Luther in 1517.​

After Hus left Prague for the country, he realized what a gulf there was between university education and theological speculation on one hand, and the life of uneducated country priests and the laymen entrusted to their care on the other.Therefore, he started to write many texts in Czech, such as basics of the Christian faith or preachings, intended mainly for the priests whose knowledge of Latin was poor .

Emperor Sigismund


Council of Constance


King Wenceslaus's brother Sigismund of Hungary , who was " King of the Romans" (that is, head of the Holy Roman Empire, though not then Emperor), and heir to the Bohemian crown, was anxious to put an end to religious dissension within the Church. To put an end to the papal schism and to take up the long desired reform of the Church, he arranged for a general council to convene on 1 November 1414, at Konstanz (Constance). The Council of Constance (1414–1418) became the 16th ecumenical council recognized by the Catholic Church. Hus, willing to make an end of all dissensions, agreed to go to Constance, under Sigismund's promise of safe conduct .


Hus Imprisonment and preparations for trial

It is not known whether Hus knew what his fate would be, but he made his will before setting out. He started on his journey on 11 October 1414; on 3 November 1414, he arrived at Constance, and on the following day, the bulletins on the church doors announced that Michal z Německého Brodu would be opposing Hus. In the beginning, Hus was at liberty, under his safe-conduct from Sigismund, and lived at the house of a widow. But he continued celebrating Mass and preaching to the people, in violation of restrictions decreed by the Church. After a few weeks on 28 November 1414, his opponents succeeded in imprisoning him, on the strength of a rumor that he intended to flee. He was first brought into the residence of a canon and then, on 6 December 1414, into the prison of the Dominican monastery. Sigismund, as the guarantor of Hus's safety, was greatly angered and threatened the prelates with dismissal; however, the prelates convinced him that he could not be bound by promises to a heretic.​

On 4 December 1414, John XXIII entrusted a committee of three bishops with a preliminary investigation against Hus. As was common practice, witnesses for the prosecution were heard, but Hus was not allowed an advocate for his defense. His situation became worse after the downfall of John XXIII, who had left Constance to avoid abdicating. Hus had been the captive of John XXIII and in constant communication with his friends, but now he was delivered to the bishop of Constance and brought to his castle, Gottlieben on the Rhine. Here he remained for 73 days, separated from his friends, chained day and night, poorly fed, and ill.



Condemnation

The condemnation took place on 6 July 1415, in the presence of the assembly of the Council in the Cathedral. After the High Mass and Liturgy, Hus was led into the church. The Bishop of Lodi (then Giacomo Balardi Arrigoni ) delivered an oration on the duty of eradicating heresy; then some theses of Hus and Wycliffe and a report of his trial were read.


Refusals to recant



An Italian prelate pronounced the sentence of condemnation upon Hus and his writings. Hus protested, saying that even at this hour he did not wish anything, but to be convinced from Scripture. He fell upon his knees and asked God with a soft voice to forgive all his enemies. Then followed his degradation — he was dressed in priestly vestments and again asked to recant; again he refused. With curses, Hus's ornaments were taken from him, his priestly tonsure was destroyed, and the sentence of the Church was pronounced, stripping him of all rights, and he was delivered to secular authorities. Then a tall paper hat was put upon his head, with the inscription " Haeresiarcha" (i.e., the leader of a heretical movement). Hus was led away to the stake under a strong guard of armed men.







 

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Execution

At the place of execution, he knelt down, spread out his hands, and prayed aloud. The executioner undressed Hus and tied his hands behind his back with ropes, and bound his neck with a chain to a stake around which wood and straw had been piled up so that it covered him to the neck. At the last moment, the imperial marshal, von Pappenheim, in the presence of the Count Palatine , asked Hus to recant and thus save his own life. Hus declined, stating:​

God is my witness that the things charged against me I never preached. In the same truth of the Gospel which I have written, taught, and preached, drawing upon the sayings and positions of the holy doctors, I am ready to die today.​
Anecdotally, it has been claimed that the executioners had trouble intensifying the fire. An old woman then came to the stake and threw a relatively small amount of brushwood on it. Upon seeing her act, a suffering Hus then exclaimed, "O Sancta Simplicitas!". The phrase's Czech equivalent, "Svatá prostota!" ( vocative form: "Svatá prostoto!", Translated "Holy simplicity!") is still used today when commenting on a person's foolish action coming from the belief that he or she is doing something righteous.[ citation needed] It is said that when he was about to expire, he cried out,"Christ, son of the Living God, have mercy on us!" (a variant of the Jesus Prayer). Hus's ashes were later thrown into the Rhine River as a means of preventing the veneration of his remains.​


Jan Hus & Jerome Martyr site 360 degrees​



This inscribed stone in the western outskirts of Constance marks the place where Jan Hus was burn at the stake for Jesus Christ .​



Church Schism & Corruption pp 254 , 255 , 256 , 260​

If you like to read more , upon Jan Hus , here is a link :​


Here are some more materials , so that you may continue , to examine if the religious authorities were walking in the Spirit or the flesh.​



Shalom to those that read His Word and walk in his statutes ...​

Psalm 119:33

HE. Teach me, O LORD, the way of thy statutes; and I shall keep it unto the end.
 

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More History for July 2019

The Declaration of Independence



Here is something many Americans and perhaps others around the world , may have not know or read upon , in the original rough draft on the Declaration of Independence ...

Something very important was written by Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson's "original Rough draught" of the Declaration of Independence




These words were written directly to King George III of Britain of the Holy Roman Empire , but who counsel these kings not only in Britain , but also in France , Spain , and other parts of Europe to do such things to men as themselves .



he has incited treasonable insurrections in our fellow-subjects, with the allurements of forfeiture & confiscation of our property: he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither.

This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain.determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

Link to rough draft of Declaration :

Library of Congress

We must ask ourselves as the readers of this document , were was the root of this wicked thing , were did it come from and by whom authority was this established ???​

If one looks into History , it is clearly evident , that the authoritative roots of this wickedness , comes from the Bishop of Rome.




These laws are known as The Doctrine of Discovery

Papal bull Authorizing Slavery

Terra Nullius
1095
Dum Diversas
1452
Inter Caetera
1493




Please be reminded , this post is , in no ways excluding Jefferson himself as he was a slave owner , but it is interesting how Jefferson consistently spoke out against the turpitude of slavery and worked gradually to end the practice of slavery .​

Shalom to all the Brethren on Christian Chat :)