'Tolerant' Radical Left Tries Burning Down North Carolina Church

[1still_waters]

Our tolerant and non-violent, anti-bullying friends on the radical left are once again showing us how much hate they don't have. *sarcasm*

There was a failed attempt to burn down a church in North Carolina. The church had previously been protested against by gay rights activists.

link-->Attempt to burn down church of anti-gay pastor failed | www.wsoctv.com

 

[Crossfire]

Now that if that doesn't hit close to home. Before moving, I actually lived in Catawba County and attended a church in Maiden, NC. While I'm not sure where Providence Baptist is, Maiden is a somewhat small rural town with a church on just about every street corner (literally). It doesn't surprise me that something like this would happen in Maiden seeing Christianity was replaced by politics years ago and part of the reason why I left the area. This area is in desperate need of authentic revival or else such nonsense will esculate.

 

[Crossfire]

I guess it's safe to assume that the IRS will be paying this church a visit real soon.

 

[1still_waters]

I guess it's safe to assume that the IRS will be paying this church a visit real soon.

Yeah as they ignore the Nation Of Islam and Black Panthers. Go figure.

 

[Crossfire]

I made a few phone calls, waiting on a reply. If anything interesting happens, I'll post it.

 

[violakat]

I was taught as a child that two wrongs don't make a right. While the pastor was not wrong in calling homosexuality a sin, he was wrong in what he said. And whoever tried to burn the church down in retaliation was just as wrong. They are very fortunate that no one was killed.

 

[Crossfire]

Apparently the comments in question made by the Pastor were somewhat inappropriate and has been played on the regional news numerous times. From what I was told, since the protests could not be held at the church in question, many protested at the county curthouse. Not only was the courthouse targeted by the protestors but also other Baptist churches affiliated with the church in question were also protested, one in Charlotte specifically.

I tried calling a few personal friends that are pastors in the town but I couldn't get a return call. I then called a family member seeing as I have family who both live in Maiden city limits and attend church in town. I was told reporters have been visiting all of the churches in town multiple times trying to get an interview thus many of the pastors are only taking personal calls.

Apparently there were death threats against the Pastor in question thus he and his family were escorted out of the area.

 

[djness]

I saw very little in the article about a fire, maybe the first paragraph. They don't even say why they think there was an attempt except for damage to some power lines and a box? That could be lightning or something or an overload cause of peoples Air Conditioning, how do they llink this to an attempt t arson.
The majority of the article isn't even about the attempted arson.

This seems like one of those attention grabbing headlines that goes no where.

 

[Crossfire]

I saw very little in the article about a fire, maybe the first paragraph. They don't even say why they think there was an attempt except for damage to some power lines and a box? That could be lightning or something or an overload cause of peoples Air Conditioning, how do they llink this to an attempt t arson.
The majority of the article isn't even about the attempted arson.

This seems like one of those attention grabbing headlines that goes no where.

As I was browsing Youtube to possibly find the sermon in question, this situation is actually getting attention nationally. From what I was told, the town - which is very small - has been bombarded with news crews for the last several days. Apparently, threats and strangers keep pouring in thus the police are staying very busy.

Unlike most small towns, the many of the pastors in Maiden actually cross denominational lines and meet with one another on a regular basis. We used to hold inter-denominational youth gatherings at east once a month. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pastors are working amoungst themselves to make a public united stand.

 

[violakat]

Dj, it is quite obvious though, if someone took an ax to a fuse box and it looks very much different from lightening strikes. Been in an apartment where the fuse box was axed. However, the power lines is another matter. I know in TV shows, it makes it look easy to cut power, and the only way I could think would be to turn off the fuses in the power box. Or, maybe deliberately run into it with a car or truck. All I know is something happened, and before that occurred the pastor and church were receiving threats. And maybe that's why everyone thinks it was attempted arson.

 

[loveme1]

"liberating the devil within society"... will bring out this type of behavior against those of us that follow Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

 

[Rogo]

Our tolerant and non-violent, anti-bullying friends on the radical left are once again showing us how much hate they don't have. *sarcasm*

There was a failed attempt to burn down a church in North Carolina. The church had previously been protested against by gay rights activists.

link-->Attempt to burn down church of anti-gay pastor failed | www.wsoctv.com

Okay... and what's your point? Trying to demonize an entire segment of the population through just one instance? An instance, by the way, that may not actually be attributed to arson and that might have been committed (if it was arson) by a small group of people (or even just one person) who do not represent that said segment that I previously mentioned...

I don't go around linking the Westboro Baptist Church and their atrocities with evangelical conservatives or The United States' Christian population. That would just be silly.

 

[violakat]

If this were only just one incident were churches are being threaten. The only reason this one is getting any main stream attention is because of the recent voting in of the NC Same Sex Marriage Ban, and the fact that it looks like attempts were made. However, there have been other churches around the country were they have been threatened by the homosexual community.

 

[Rogo]

If this were only just one incident were churches are being threaten. The only reason this one is getting any main stream attention is because of the recent voting in of the NC Same Sex Marriage Ban, and the fact that it looks like attempts were made.

People and establishments receive threats and are put in danger all the time. Not just Christians. Please stop playing the victim card... especially when you're apart of the world's largest religion

However, there have been other churches around the country were they have been threatened by the homosexual community

And vice-versa.

 

[Crossfire]

People and establishments receive threats and are put in danger all the time. Not just Christians. Please stop playing the victim card... especially when you're apart of the world's largest religion



And vice-versa.

From what I was told, the pastor in question did makes some very outlandish remarks which would hardly make him 'innocent'. As I mentioned in my previous post, politics has replaced Christianity in many of the churches found in the town of Maiden. I personally have debated with church leaders in the area in attempt to show how their political mindset has made their hearts grow cold and uncompassionate toward those in need. I was highly criticized because I would speak out openly against politics behind the pulpit which was inspired by greed.

 

[David_1]

Being a Christian is not a political orientation besides what Americans try to make out. Plenty of Christians on the left side of politics.

People should not burn down churches, just like people should not commit nations to 2 wars (Not sanctioned by the UN), allow 9/11 to happen, and preside over the largest world wide financial collapse in our lifetimes.

As you can see, neither the right or left of politics are perfect.

 

[violakat]

People and establishments receive threats and are put in danger all the time. Not just Christians. Please stop playing the victim card... especially when you're apart of the world's largest religion



And vice-versa.

I'm not playing the victim card at all. What you you were saying made it sound as if this was an only a one time occurrence, which is incorrect. And as for being the World's largest religion, I'm not so sure about that anymore. Islam seems to be growing at a pretty fast rate.

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

I'm not playing the victim card at all. What you you were saying made it sound as if this was an only a one time occurrence, which is incorrect. And as for being the World's largest religion, I'm not so sure about that anymore. Islam seems to be growing at a pretty fast rate.

Second point first: Christianity is ranked the largest world religion by number of adherents. See this link. Islam is growing, but it has a long way to go before it passes up Christianity, which is also growing.

To respond to the first point, I did not sense that anyone was indicating that this was a "one-time occurrence." It sounded to me rather that they were taking issue with the way you lumped all liberals in with this particular group of protesters. That would be like someone saying all Christians are like the Westboro Baptist Church, who protest military funerals with their "God hates fags" signs. You and I both know that those people represent a tiny minority of Christians, and even though most Christians agree that homosexuality is a sin, we don't condone that kind of activity, and we also know that God loves everyone, and would rather see His children repent.

In the same way, most liberals do not want to burn down churches, outlaw religion, or think that all Christians are closed-minded bigots. (Although sometimes we Christians make it so easy for them to draw that conclusion.) Most liberals understand that Christians come in all shapes, sizes, colors and flavors, and that yes, some may say outlandish things, and some may push the envelope of free speech and/or separation of church and state. When that happens, most liberals are perfectly happy allowing the system that is already in place take care of the situation, and they have no desire to resort to violence or threats thereof.

As I hinted above, please take care not to make it easier for liberals to think such vile things of us. It's hard enough to preach the gospel these days to people who have never heard the Good News, and who can barely fathom that anyone would give a hoot enough to love them, let alone die on a cross for them. When they see stuff like that, it just makes our job that much harder, ya know?

 

[violakat]

Okay... and what's your point? Trying to demonize an entire segment of the population through just one instance? An instance, by the way, that may not actually be attributed to arson and that might have been committed (if it was arson) by a small group of people (or even just one person) who do not represent that said segment that I previously mentioned...

I don't go around linking the Westboro Baptist Church and their atrocities with evangelical conservatives or The United States' Christian population. That would just be silly.

This is what I was referring to when I said it made it sound like it was only one incident.

If this were only just one incident were churches are being threaten. The only reason this one is getting any main stream attention is because of the recent voting in of the NC Same Sex Marriage Ban, and the fact that it looks like attempts were made. However, there have been other churches around the country were they have been threatened by the homosexual community.

No where did I lump all Christians in the same pot. What I did say was that there are other churches around the country that have been threatened by the homosexual community.

And vice-versa.

I didn't notice this comment right away. But I will agree with you here. One of the most well known, being the Westboro Baptist.

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

What I did say was that there are other churches around the country that have been threatened by the homosexual community.

I will accept that there have been churches that have been threatened by individuals, or even by groups of people. Sometimes those groups may even seem to have a cohesive agenda.

When you say, "the homosexual community," you are referring to literally tens of millions of people globally, some of them devout Christians themselves who struggle with homosexuality every day. This is the kind of language that Rogo and I, and many others, object to.

When I see things like, well, we've all mentioned the Westboro clan, and similar acts ... I make sure I distance myself from those people, and let my non-Christian friends and acquaintances know that those people do NOT represent a majority of Christians.

In the same way, we are trying to tell you that these alleged arsonists do NOT represent a majority of liberals.

"The homosexual community" has never made any threats against any church.

When you say things like this, you only drive more anger and hate into the whole thing, like pouring gasoline on a fire. Such language is not only unhelpful to the cause in general, it is un-Christian, because it is bearing false witness against your neighbor.

Does that make sense?