Tonight's Presidential Debate

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Cameron143

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Yeah, I take ownership of being wrong. My bad.
No problem. She holds many more very liberal positions which she is now lying about.
I can understand someone not in good conscience voting for Trump. I cannot understand anyone, and especially Christians, who could vote for Harris.
 

JayBird

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Sorry. Still out of troll food. And I have seen the bill. You are lying. Now I'm officially out of troll food and I've canceled my subscription to TNN.
So that's a no, you refuse to go through the bill and show where it says what you claim, and all you have instead is childish name calling and insults.

You know you can do better than this.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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The ciry officials and all officials are denying the truth about everything. The have colluded with Biden. So here is proof, and there is more proof:
Videos: Springfield Residents Give Inside Scoop On Haitian Takeover (infowars.com)

Breaking! Springfield Resident Found Decapitated Pig Head In Park, Says 16-Year-Old Haitians Attending Elementary Schools & Adults In High School
Breaking! Springfield Resident Found Decapitated Pig Head In Park, Says 16-Year-Old Haitians Attending Elementary Schools & Adults In High School (infowars.com)

J.D. Vance who is from Ohio should have gone to Springfield when this was reported several days ago. He should have spoken to the residents and videoed his conversations. The Trump would have ad serious ammunition for the media hacks who were calling these reports false.


Here's another Invaders Eat Cats Story
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Here in town, there have been cats found in local ethnic restaurants freezers, so I don't understand how Americans are in denial about the criminal invaders eating pets. I thought it was common knowledge we all joked about.
One thing about communist / C🪬A disinformation programs, I'll give them credit: They are very effective at persuading viewers.
 

Nehemiah6

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So again I have to wonder whose ears are tickled by this rather racist fake story. Given your earlier post where you rooted for white supremacists, I think the answer is obvious.
There is nothing racist about exposing the evil deeds of the Haitians (who should not even be in Springfield). Or any of the criminal illegal immigrants. That independent journalist will provide the evidence in a full-length documentary

And since I did not root for White Supremacists, that's a blatant lie. And if you have assumed that Christian Nationalists are automatically White Supremacists then that too is a lie. Just like all the Leftists you lie through your teeth about everything. As to Info Wars it is 100 times superior to any of the lying Leftist media.
 

JayBird

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Thanks for posting that. (y)

Needless to say, I definitely don't agree with her 2019 stance.
 

JayBird

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There is nothing racist about exposing the evil deeds of the Haitians (who should not even be in Springfield). Or any of the criminal illegal immigrants.
It's obviously racist when it's a fake story, clearly crafted to stir up anger and resentment against a specific ethnic group.

Also, the Haitians are in Springfield legally, as the city explained in their FAQ.

https://springfieldohio.gov/immigration-faqs/

And since I did not root for White Supremacists, that's a blatant lie.
Yeah you did.

https://christianchat.com/christian...and-the-race-card.215961/page-46#post-5360849

"Actually it is time for the old White Supremacists to revive themselves and take action"

If you're going to spew hate like that, at least own it.
 

Cameron143

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So that's a no, you refuse to go through the bill and show where it says what you claim, and all you have instead is childish name calling and insults.

You know you can do better than this.
You were supposed to be praying for me, remember? Either you aren't very good with prayer, or, perhaps, God doesn't hear you.

Prove you're not a troll. ABC stories on Harris were 100% positive. The same network was 93% negative about Trump. Now that is some serious bias.

Now, out of all the posts you have written, how many have been positive? My guess is you are even more biased than ABC.

Since everyone knows that ABC shills for the Democrat party, what does all this say about you?

For a change, don't deflect. Actually do some introspection. What does the above indicate about you?
 

JayBird

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You were supposed to be praying for me, remember? Either you aren't very good with prayer, or, perhaps, God doesn't hear you.
Or perhaps your heart is too hardened.

Prove you're not a troll. ABC stories on Harris were 100% positive. The same network was 93% negative about Trump. Now that is some serious bias.

Now, out of all the posts you have written, how many have been positive? My guess is you are even more biased than ABC.

Since everyone knows that ABC shills for the Democrat party, what does all this say about you?

For a change, don't deflect. Actually do some introspection. What does the above indicate about you?
I'm curious, do you complain when other people here constantly post from conservative sources? Is it bias you're concerned about, or is it just that you don't like seeing info from non-conservative sources?

And btw, I cite all sorts of sources, including from original documents when available. That's why my offer to you still stands. We can forget all about sources, media, and bias and just go straight to the immigration reform bill itself and discuss what it actually says. How 'bout it?
 

ZNP

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If immigrants are killing pets to eat because they are hungry then you can be sure they will continue doing so for the next seven weeks. As that happens they will realize Harris is lying about this and Trump was telling the truth. On the other hand if there are not anymore stories about this it will be seen as a gaff for Trump. However, I doubt this will have a bigger impact than what he said about McCain in 2016, so this is simply trivial in the grand scheme of things.

If the economy is strong then Harris will get a boost from that and if that is in fact a lie, then Trump will get a very big boost. When things are good people are complacent, when they are bad they will vote.

What will help Harris the most is if the economy is strong, people are making a lot of money, and all the immigrants are hard workers and not involved in criminal activity. The situation in Aurora Colo., Springfield Oh, El Paso Tx, and Chicago are much more serious for the Harris campaign than whether or not Trump was mistaken about pets being eaten.
 

Cameron143

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Or perhaps your heart is too hardened.


I'm curious, do you complain when other people here constantly post from conservative sources? Is it bias you're concerned about, or is it just that you don't like seeing info from non-conservative sources?

And btw, I cite all sorts of sources, including from original documents when available. That's why my offer to you still stands. We can forget all about sources, media, and bias and just go straight to the immigration reform bill itself and discuss what it actually says. How 'bout it?
So you chose to deflect. Not surprised.

The offer still stands: how many positive posts have you posted about Trump?

None is the correct answer. That means you have a total bias against him. 93% negative stories by ABC concerning Trump shows their bias, and is the reason that they are no longer credible. Your 100% bias does the same for you. You are not credible.
Not only this, you began a thread to purposefully deceive people concerning Trump. Your original statement was misleading and designed to manipulate what was said, alter the context, and trick people into believing something that wasn't true. This makes you a liar.

You should be alot less concerned about the toothpick in my eye, and remove the beam from yours.
 

Bob-Carabbio

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CNN Flash Poll shows Trump a clear winner.
And the Earth is flat, and we've never been to the mood (which is made of green cheese).

Poll 1 says Hassis by a landslide.
Poll 2 says Trump by a landslide
Poll 3 says "Dead heat"

The "Debate show" was ridiculous!!!
 

ZNP

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And the Earth is flat, and we've never been to the mood (which is made of green cheese).

Poll 1 says Hassis by a landslide.
Poll 2 says Trump by a landslide
Poll 3 says "Dead heat"

The "Debate show" was ridiculous!!!
Never been to the Mood? No one has ever said that the Moody Blues went to the moon, it was Pink Floyd that went to the Dark Side of the Moon.
 

JayBird

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So you chose to deflect. Not surprised.
Not sure what you're referring to. This started with you making claims about what's in the immigration bill and me offering to look through the bill itself to see what it says. So let's do that.

The offer still stands: how many positive posts have you posted about Trump?
None! I thought I'd made it clear that my goal is to get the Republican Party to move away from Trump and get back to sanity. You must have missed that.

None is the correct answer. That means you have a total bias against him. 93% negative stories by ABC concerning Trump shows their bias, and is the reason that they are no longer credible. Your 100% bias does the same for you. You are not credible.
You didn't answer my question. Do you equally oppose people and sources that are against Democrats? Or is it that you're okay with bias, just as long as it's in your favor?

Surely you're not trying to present yourself as unbiased in politics, are you?

And FYI, I'm going to ignore your posts and the portions of posts that are just childish insults. I keep hoping and praying that you can do better, but unfortunately you keep disappointing.

Are you like this in person?
 

JayBird

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If immigrants are killing pets to eat because they are hungry then you can be sure they will continue doing so for the next seven weeks. As that happens they will realize Harris is lying about this and Trump was telling the truth. On the other hand if there are not anymore stories about this it will be seen as a gaff for Trump. However, I doubt this will have a bigger impact than what he said about McCain in 2016, so this is simply trivial in the grand scheme of things.

If the economy is strong then Harris will get a boost from that and if that is in fact a lie, then Trump will get a very big boost. When things are good people are complacent, when they are bad they will vote.

What will help Harris the most is if the economy is strong, people are making a lot of money, and all the immigrants are hard workers and not involved in criminal activity. The situation in Aurora Colo., Springfield Oh, El Paso Tx, and Chicago are much more serious for the Harris campaign than whether or not Trump was mistaken about pets being eaten.
I think it's extremely revealing that of all the things from the debate that Trump's base is defending and doubling down on, it's his obvious attempt to stir up racial resentment via a very fake story about Haitian immigrants.

That says a lot about the nature of his base and why they adore Trump so much.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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If immigrants are killing pets to eat because they are hungry then you can be sure they will continue doing so for the next seven weeks. As that happens they will realize Harris is lying about this and Trump was telling the truth. On the other hand if there are not anymore stories about this it will be seen as a gaff for Trump. However, I doubt this will have a bigger impact than what he said about McCain in 2016, so this is simply trivial in the grand scheme of things.

If the economy is strong then Harris will get a boost from that and if that is in fact a lie, then Trump will get a very big boost. When things are good people are complacent, when they are bad they will vote.

What will help Harris the most is if the economy is strong, people are making a lot of money, and all the immigrants are hard workers and not involved in criminal activity. The situation in Aurora Colo., Springfield Oh, El Paso Tx, and Chicago are much more serious for the Harris campaign than whether or not Trump was mistaken about pets being eaten.

The comment Trump made about American pets being eaten by foreign invaders is spun so over the top by the Communist/C👁️A run media that the average sleepwalking American is easily misled.
They use the exact same tactic on Alex Jones and have since he started broadcasting on shortwave, and local TV in the 90s.
This things are proven true, but the media hacks deflect to some knat to swallow a camel.

People believe what they want to believe and WILL not be persuaded.
After the first and second admonision I move on. I already have been harmed seriously and close to being killed by decisions made by those I love and wouldn't give up on. I decided not to stress over strangers.

That said, strangers will have a big impact on all our lives as an outcome of this election. Perhaps that's why there is so much censorship software and paid influencers.
 

Nehemiah6

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it's his obvious attempt to stir up racial resentment via a very fake story about Haitian immigrants.
You are the faker and the troll on this forum:
‘Illegal And Sickening’: American Duck Hunters Decry ‘Haitian Privilege’ Run Amok In Springfield, Ohio
‘Illegal And Sickening’: American Duck Hunters Decry ‘Haitian Privilege’ Run Amok In Springfield, Ohio | The Daily Caller

SPRINGFIELD, OHIO RESIDENT SOUNDS ALARM: "[Haitians] are in the park grabbing up ducks by their neck, cutting their head off...and eating them!" This video shows a black resident making these comments, so there is no racism. Just the facts.
 

ZNP

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I think it's extremely revealing that of all the things from the debate that Trump's base is defending and doubling down on, it's his obvious attempt to stir up racial resentment via a very fake story about Haitian immigrants.

That says a lot about the nature of his base and why they adore Trump so much.
On the contrary they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I can see two weeks from now photographic evidence making front page news of immigrants eating cats and dogs. If they don't make a big deal of this now no one would care in two weeks. But if they do and then get this story it will be front page news and it will highlight how our "Border Czar" had put all of our loved pets in peril. Since Harris' base is made up of cat ladies this will be devastating to her campaign.

Has it ever occurred to you that Trump already has this story in the bag and that it is his campaign pushing the funny memes? Trump is a counterpuncher, this is his style.

Standard rule from Sun Tzu, don't take the bait your enemy gives you.
 

JohnDB

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After reflection....

Kamala had no one EXCEPT MSM talking heads in her spin room afterwards.

Meanwhile Trumo had 2 former Democrat Party presidential nominees, his VP and a host of other notable people in his spin rooms.

The Energy vx Climate change.
Which is it?
Either she is all about climate change and the Trillion dollars they spent or she is all about drilling and exporting oil/LNG.

The moderators were highly unethical. One could make a claim of election interference. There's no one anywhere in the world not talking about it.

I don't see this as a win for Kamala. The HUGE points Trump scored were over "Why don't you leave here and do it now?"