Tonight's Presidential Debate

[HealthAndHappiness]

Yup. And yes Vance was crippled by moderators. And prevailed resoundingly nevertheless.

Good analysis here....

(1) Victor Davis Hanson on X: "Debate Postmortem J.D. Vance, as anticipated, easily won the debate on demeanor, facts, and analysis. But in fairness to a sometimes herky-jerky and nervous Tim Walz, he had the harder task of defending the temporary make-over of Harris, her co-culpability for the last" / X

Debate Postmortem

J.D. Vance, as anticipated, easily won the debate on demeanor, facts, and analysis. But in fairness to a sometimes herky-jerky and nervous Tim Walz, he had the harder task of defending the temporary make-over of Harris, her co-culpability for the last three-and-a-half-years of the Biden disaster, and her unwillingness to implement her supposedly “change” agenda in the last months of her vice-presidential tenure.

The moderators, Nora O’Donnell, and, especially, Margaret Brennan, also as expected, ganged up on Vance. The had learned nothing, and forgot nothing from the last disastrous, and biased debate moderators—now proving the wisdom of Donald Trump’s refusal to do any more network debates other than on Fox.

The two moderators shamelessly broke their own rules by fact-checking (wrongly and solely) Vance.

They ignored questions of the administration’s reactions to Hurricane Helene, the Ukraine war, the recent Trump assassination attempts, or crime, while only briefly touching on Iran and a Middle East on the brink of total war.

Instead, they concentrated, as also expected, on climate change, abortion, health care, and childcare. All were issues they thought might more easily embarrass Vance. And, of course, as also expected, the two ended the debate pressing Vance on January 6.

And yet Vance again won decisively. In doing so, he dispelled the smear that he was somehow “mean”, when, in fact, he proved calm and magnanimous as he dissected Walz.

The nation perhaps learned that Trump selected him to articulate his MAGA positions, and perhaps in a manner superior to Trump’s own.

In contrast, Harris picked Walz. assuming he would not upstage her and perhaps by his limitations would make her look more competent in comparison.

The debate will give some momentum to Trump-Vance in the last month of the campaign. It follows the lethargic Biden-Harris reaction to Hurricane Helene, whose toll in human life and property had been initially and vastly ignored by the media. It follows the growing specter of a theater-wide Middle East war, as Israel faces off against Iran and its appendages (all empowered after 2020 by Biden-Harris). It follows the chaos of a longshoremen’s strike intended to shut down the country. And it follows Harris’s continued inability to survive serial soft-ball interviews without her memorized and banal answers.

As a result, the slow hemorrhaging of Harris-Walz will likely still continue in the last month of the election.

 

[Kroogz]

 

[cv5]

Stolen valor.....

(1) The Post Millennial on X: "Biden says he has directed the deployment of Starlink satellites in North Carolina https://t.co/gIdiMznRof" / X

 

[JohnDB]

 

[ResidentAlien]

Very telling that Vance wouldn't answer the question of whether Trump lost the 2020 election. He only complained that he was being "attacked." So we see How Vance thinks: questions are attacks. The Donald does the same thing, like the time he complained Lesley Stahl was attacking him and he walked off the 60 Minutes interview. That seems to be the theme of their campaign: Mean ol' Democrats are attacking us, vote for me.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Vance has proven time and again he will say or do anything to get political power. It wasn't that long ago he suggested Trump might be America's Hitler; now he's Trump's running mate. Unbelievable, lol.

 

[JohnDB]

Very telling that Vance wouldn't answer the question of whether Trump lost the 2020 election. He only complained that he was being "attacked." So we see How Vance thinks: questions are attacks. The Donald does the same thing, like the time he complained Lesley Stahl was attacking him and he walked off the 60 Minutes interview. That seems to be the theme of their campaign: Mean ol' Democrats are attacking us, vote for me.

Over 60% of Americans believe the audits after the election had been certified proved Trump won Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania....giving him the win. And there is more than sufficient proof that the rampant, coordinated, and blatant cheating by the Democrats gave Biden an illegitimate victory.

So Vance’s answer is perfectly appropriate.

Vance’s demeanor comes across as perfect....which makes me doubt him.

 

[ZNP]

OK, I get they are eating the pets, the dogs, the cats and the geese. But this, this is too much! I cannot respect someone who just drinks out of the pitcher! What's next, drinking straight out of the orange juice carton and then putting it back in the fridge?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nqliOJ4ZZwk

 

[ResidentAlien]

Over 60% of Americans believe the audits after the election had been certified proved Trump won Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania....giving him the win.

People believe a lot of things. JD Vance and Donald Trump have a stake in them continuing to believing it.

 

[JohnDB]

People believe a lot of things. JD Vance and Donald Trump have a stake in them continuing to believing it.

There have been audits....real audits and currently several court cases concerning this matter with verified proof of fraud with names and identities of who, how, and when the fraud was committed.

It's been all over the news. How have you not seen it?

There's a huge case going on in GA with Governor Kemp at the moment.

 

[ZNP]

There have been audits....real audits and currently several court cases concerning this matter with verified proof of fraud with names and identities of who, how, and when the fraud was committed.

It's been all over the news. How have you not seen it?

There's a huge case going on in GA with Governor Kemp at the moment.

People see what they want to see and disregard the rest

 

[JohnDB]

https://x.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1841839818809974876

 

[cv5]

https://x.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1841839818809974876

The governing powers know all of this. Evidently election fraud is a desired component that they do not want to abandon.

Insane. And remember.........most civilized nations have air-tight election protocols. Not the USSA tho.

 

[cv5]

(1) L J M on X: "@Rasmussen_Poll Who ordered them to stop counting? https://t.co/NMLqtkWo4A" / X

 

[cv5]

(1) Chief Nerd on X: "TODAY: $750 for Americans SIX DAYS AGO: $2.4 Billion for Ukraine https://t.co/eo37pSgSNN" / X

 

[cv5]

https://x.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1841839818809974876

A 15K bribe will go a long way.....

 

[cv5]

There have been audits....real audits and currently several court cases concerning this matter with verified proof of fraud with names and identities of who, how, and when the fraud was committed.

It's been all over the news. How have you not seen it?

There's a huge case going on in GA with Governor Kemp at the moment.

(1) Rasmussen Reports on X: "Good Morning ! "She kicked out Republican observers the night before at around 10:30pm telling them all ballots had been counted. Claire was done with the LEGAL ballots at 10:30pm on Nov. 3rd. She needed the time from then until 3:06am to stuff the tabulators with fake ballots https://t.co/Iwp1y3dnnV" / X

Good Morning ! "She kicked out Republican observers the night before at around 10:30pm telling them all ballots had been counted. Claire was done with the LEGAL ballots at 10:30pm on Nov. 3rd. She needed the time from then until 3:06am to stuff the tabulators with fake ballots for Joe Biden."

 

[ZNP]

The governing powers know all of this. Evidently election fraud is a desired component that they do not want to abandon.

Insane. And remember.........most civilized nations have air-tight election protocols. Not the USSA tho.

Election fraud removes the uncertainty from elections. It provides the oligarchs that higher level of confidence that when they buy a candidate that candidate will be elected.

 

[cv5]

(1) Rasmussen Reports on X: "If late counted mail ballots were Biden's path to victory why were election audits blocked everywhere except Arizona? Evidence gathered by FOIA's, lawsuits & state investigations is linked below. 62% of all national likely voters say 2020 was effected by cheating. See how below. https://t.co/vetHoEck4J" / X

(1) Rasmussen Reports on X: "Biden 2020 - 'Wining' MI - Counterfeiting & Stuff Job https://t.co/VHg3J4ixZs GA - Counterfeiting & Records Manipulation https://t.co/IxDE8FZg0w WI - Counterfeiting & Stuff Job https://t.co/aNdKneC7uB PA - Counterfeiting & Stuff Job https://t.co/AgCgVJWmnU AZ - Below" / X

 

[cv5]

People believe a lot of things. JD Vance and Donald Trump have a stake in them continuing to believing it.

Believe it because it is true. Why do you always look to your master before thinking for yourself?

(1) Rasmussen Reports on X: "Let's Review: Maricopa County Arizona 2020 1 legal election ballot paper type, 10 types found 1 legal software version, 2 versions and a compiler found Who specifically doctored the software? And one of these guys quit, the other just lost his reelection bid https://t.co/jlMIJDcDZW" / X