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[Jennie-Mae]

What you are seeing is severe mental illness. No one would have their ears and nose removed unless they were severely ill.

I never said that these people are not sinning. I have said that we dont have the right to discriminate and hate ON them. Not what Jesus would have done. For refusing to hate, you (some of you) have demonised me. Think on that.
Christians are not supposed to hate. I think my thesis that some (not all) but some groups of Christians simply hate gays for just existing.

Yes, that’s what it is.

Any action removing healthy body parts is most likely a result of a severe mental illness. That goes for people being LBGT as well. And that, I think, is what this is about.

1. You dont know how old I am. I am not brainwashed ... far from it.
2. Why do you diss education. I think education is very important. It informs how I handle all aspects of my life. My husband and I have post graduate degrees, as do both our daughters. No patriarchy here.
3. I have no doubt that Christians around the world are the most persecuted group there is. I never said they were not. This does not give Christians the right, though, to persecute others.
4. Ignorant? You seem to use the word alot. To be ignorant of Scripture is akin to reading it as if it were yesterdays newspaper. Not how it has been, or meant to be read, over the ages.
5. I never said that sinful behavior is okay. On the contrary. What I DID say is that it is wrong to stigmatize and demonise other groups.
6. False Gospel? The real Gospel is this: (my view).

1. Jesus Life: What he taught us to do and what we, so often do not do. There is no emphasis on his LIFE and I wonder why that is.
2. Jesus Death: Yes, I believe He died for us. He knew it and he did it anyway. BUT, jesus was also INCLUSIVE rather than exclusive which may mean that he will forgive those who are IGNORANT UNINTENTIONALLY of knowing him.

I know you will find fault with what I have said here or call me a liar, or say that I preach a "false" gospel. To that I ask YOU and anyone here : what was Jesus life for? Was to die for your sins or was it to each you how to live like a real Christian. It seems we thank Him for the former, and forget the latter, namely his teachings. They are paramount and yet I have yet to see a thread about the Sermon on the Mount.

The last question remains: will Jesus accept only those who believe rightly? Or will Jesus have compassion for those who do not know Him?

Now you can tear this post apart ... but you cannot tear me apart. I am speaking what I believe to be the truth about a Loving God. About jesus, his Son who had endless love in His heart for all.

PS: I am a Catholic by birth (hence faith and works doctrine) and now I lean closer to Anglican and Episopalian beliefs for many reasons.

Some folks don’t like the thought of people being saved undeservedly, sounds familiar?

The same people saying that we’re saved by Grace, ain’t got no leftover Grace for others. When talking about getting saved they are advocating a works based salvation regime, they are just unaware of that themselves.

It doesn’t matter how much they are trying to twist the Grace of God, trying to add a Grace spin on their man made doctrines and crack the wrath spigot open. It’s so transparent.

I have a feeling that I’m being labeled a left wing liberal in this thread because I dare speak my mind. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I’m a conservative, pro life, not endorsing female ministers, believing Jesus is my Savior. I don’t support Trump, though, because I believe that he deep down is a left wing liberal, but at least he is getting the SCOTUS fixed.

I don’t, on the other hand, believe dishing out wrath, sarcasms and ridiculing folks will make them see the light.

The Good News don’t need wrath.

 

[BibleStudent100]

All of us here in this forum are aware of the scriptures that reveal God's thinking on homosexuality. But why is God so adamantly opposed to it? One reason is stated at Isaiah 48:17: “I Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit yourself, the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk.” Those words come from the Author of the universal laws of nature. He knows our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual makeup. He opposes homosexuality because, among other things, it does not benefit the individual.

 

[UnderGrace]

1. You dont know how old I am. I am not brainwashed ... far from it.
2. Why do you diss education. I think education is very important. It informs how I handle all aspects of my life. My husband and I have post graduate degrees, as do both our daughters. No patriarchy here.
3. I have no doubt that Christians around the world are the most persecuted group there is. I never said they were not. This does not give Christians the right, though, to persecute others.
4. Ignorant? You seem to use the word alot. To be ignorant of Scripture is akin to reading it as if it were yesterdays newspaper. Not how it has been, or meant to be read, over the ages.
5. I never said that sinful behavior is okay. On the contrary. What I DID say is that it is wrong to stigmatize and demonise other groups.
6. False Gospel? The real Gospel is this: (my view).

1. Jesus Life: What he taught us to do and what we, so often do not do. There is no emphasis on his LIFE and I wonder why that is.
2. Jesus Death: Yes, I believe He died for us. He knew it and he did it anyway. BUT, jesus was also INCLUSIVE rather than exclusive which may mean that he will forgive those who are IGNORANT UNINTENTIONALLY of knowing him.

I know you will find fault with what I have said here or call me a liar, or say that I preach a "false" gospel. To that I ask YOU and anyone here : what was Jesus life for? Was to die for your sins or was it to each you how to live like a real Christian. It seems we thank Him for the former, and forget the latter, namely his teachings. They are paramount and yet I have yet to see a thread about the Sermon on the Mount.

The last question remains: will Jesus accept only those who believe rightly? Or will Jesus have compassion for those who do not know Him?

Now you can tear this post apart ... but you cannot tear me apart. I am speaking what I believe to be the truth about a Loving God. About jesus, his Son who had endless love in His heart for all.

PS: I am a Catholic by birth (hence faith and works doctrine) and now I lean closer to Anglican and Episopalian beliefs for many reasons.

I am not brainwashed

The very fact you referenced Southern Law Poverty Center contradicts this big time!!!!!. An object unbiased person would never use this organization for data.

You obviously have done no research.

Case in point:

1) SPLC possesses reserve assets valued at more than a quarter of a billion dollars, it spends an unusually small percentage of its revenues on actual program services—and a great deal on salaries, overhead, and fundraising. As The Weekly Standard reports: “CharityWatch, an independent organization that monitors and rates leading nonprofits for their fundraising efficiency, has consistently given the SPLC its lowest grade of 'F' (i.e., 'poor') for its stockpiling of assets.

More than any other organization in America, the Southern Poverty Law Center has turned hate-based identity politics and grievance mongering into a highly profitable scam.

There have no legal reasonable definition of what constitutes a "hate crime" yet you cite them as a reference!

No patriarchy here.

2) In modern day society the level of education is really not related to a patriarchal societal construct. You really need to do better research, higher education makes a woman more marriageable in patriarchal societies.

(my view).

3) With all your education, which means very little btw........ they hand out post graduate degrees like penny candy now a days, you present little understanding of what is subjective, objective, empirical evidence, plain facts and personal opinion.

When a person retreats to "my view" this is a typical indicator that "their view" is based on some emotional, not well researched, biased, highly influenced thoughts that are not independent thinking. So far in this thread and other threads all you have demonstrated is that a "degree" not really higher education in today's world (since higher education would denote someone with a more rigorous objective thinking process) has inculcated you into identity politics.

I could go on and on but I will spare you for now

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Yes it IS rage and the real question is why. We ought to pray for sinners and we ought to ask God to forgive us for hating. Hate is not Christian. LGBQT sounds like the right term, btw.

give it a rest already

you have no apparent interest in learning about what the Bible actually says concerning these things

your flaming remarks are ridiculous. the only one spewing hatred at others here is you

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I had not heard about the male model skeleton mutilation. I did hear about the guy that thought he was a tiger. He mutilated himself with implants and tattoos. Very sad to see him exploited by the media as he was featured a time or two for his strange behavior.
It was last year when I read he'd committed suicide. Unbelievably sad that he felt that alone.

I do believe it is demons leading these people to do this to themselves. God help them.

I didn't know that tiger man had committed suicide.

I agree that it is demons. the same applies to suicide

 

[UnderGrace]

Some folks don’t like the thought of people being saved undeservedly, sounds familiar?

The only folks that feel this way about others are those who follow a works based doctrine.

Anyone who has truly been saved "by grace through faith" absolutely knows they have been "saved undeservedly"

 

[Lillywolf]

I didn't know that tiger man had committed suicide.

I agree that it is demons. the same applies to suicide

I was shocked to find this out after the fact too. Very sad.
2012‘Cat Man’ found dead in Nevada, rumors of suicide

 

[UnderGrace]

ain’t got no leftover Grace for others.

The fact that some take a stand on sin does not equate to "no leftover grace for others" this is a faulty analogy.

"Sin" is no ones friend and all believers are called to be honest about this, there is not love in preaching falsehoods.

 

[Lillywolf]

What you are seeing is severe mental illness. No one would have their ears and nose removed unless they were severely ill.

I never said that these people are not sinning. I have said that we dont have the right to discriminate and hate ON them. Not what Jesus would have done. For refusing to hate, you (some of you) have demonised me. Think on that.
Christians are not supposed to hate. I think my thesis that some (not all) but some groups of Christians simply hate gays for just existing.

Do you know those first five rights in the Bill of Rights yet?
It misrepresents every member of this thread who is in Christ to claim any member has EVER posted hate for gays.
The only one that has alluded to hate is you and one other member who speaks just as you do.

Think on why you condemn those who recognize gays needing to repent and focus on throwing barbs at the Christians who know this.

 

[Lillywolf]

And by the way, at one time, every Christian here was in the same place as the LGBTQ member . We were dead in our sins. Had someone not told us this, had God not sparked his blessing into our consciousness to let us recognize we are more than the hungry flesh, we would be exactly as every sinner on earth. Right now. Thank GOD we are redeemed. Bless the sacrifice made to insure THAT for eternity.

We aren't different than the LGBTQ person. We were the same until we came from where we were to the foot of the cross that was erected as a beacon to let us know Heaven , God, heals.

 

[Lillywolf]

The fact that some take a stand on sin does not equate to "no leftover grace for others" this is a faulty analogy.

"Sin" is no ones friend and all believers are called to be honest about this, there is not love in preaching falsehoods.

What does that even mean? "no leftover grace for others" ?
This isn't BBQ. Oh, you took too much now there's none left for the rest of the family?
God is eternal and so is his promise in Romans 11:29.

 

[Jennie-Mae]

All of us here in this forum are aware of the scriptures that reveal God's thinking on homosexuality. But why is God so adamantly opposed to it? One reason is stated at Isaiah 48:17: “I Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit yourself, the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk.” Those words come from the Author of the universal laws of nature. He knows our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual makeup. He opposes homosexuality because, among other things, it does not benefit the individual.

Yes, it’s not beneficial to people. The diseases the gay life style is connected with speak volumes.

The fact that some take a stand on sin does not equate to "no leftover grace for others" this is a faulty analogy.

"Sin" is no ones friend and all believers are called to be honest about this, there is not love in preaching falsehoods.

Are you honest?

You say you take a stand on sin, but in what way? Regarding what sin?

Are you conquering sin in general or are you focusing on certain kinds of sin?

Do you consider mockery a sin? Pouring wrath on people? Chasing people away from God? You down with that?

I’m concerned about how some people here are doing their uttermost to make sure people are turning against God.

What’s their excuse? People need to be told the truth, preferably by believers acting like bullies, like the ones you can find in every Gulf coast honky tonk.

 

[UnderGrace]

What does that even mean? "no leftover grace for others" ?
This isn't BBQ. Oh, you took too much now there's none left for the rest of the family?
God is eternal and so is his promise in Romans 11:29.

Not my reasoning it was Jennie Mae......need to ask her.

 

[Lillywolf]

Not my reasoning it was Jennie Mae......need to ask her.

I know. I was just expounding on what you had said and hoping JM would clarify on her own reading that.

 

[UnderGrace]

Yes, it’s not beneficial to people. The diseases the gay life style is connected with speak volumes.


Are you honest?

You say you take a stand on sin, but in what way? Regarding what sin?

Are you conquering sin in general or are you focusing on certain kinds of sin?

Do you consider mockery a sin? Pouring wrath on people? Chasing people away from God? You down with that?

I’m concerned about how some people here are doing their uttermost to make sure people are turning against God.

What’s their excuse? People need to be told the truth, preferably by believers acting like bullies, like the ones you can find in every Gulf coast honky tonk.

I try not to do those things, but you sure like to accuse the brethren.

I cannot help that unbelievers like to pose as believers and do all kinds of nasty things in the name of Jesus the Christ. Those people do not preach the Gospel they preach a counterfeit.

No born again believer wants people to turn away form God, people turn away from God on their own volition, they suppress the truth in their unrighteousness.

 

[UnderGrace]

I know. I was just expounding on what you had said and hoping JM would clarify on her own reading that.

Understood, we can hope. LOL

 

[Lillywolf]

Yes, that’s what it is.

Any action removing healthy body parts is most likely a result of a severe mental illness. That goes for people being LBGT as well. And that, I think, is what this is about.


Some folks don’t like the thought of people being saved undeservedly, sounds familiar?

The same people saying that we’re saved by Grace, ain’t got no leftover Grace for others. When talking about getting saved they are advocating a works based salvation regime, they are just unaware of that themselves.

It doesn’t matter how much they are trying to twist the Grace of God, trying to add a Grace spin on their man made doctrines and crack the wrath spigot open. It’s so transparent.

I have a feeling that I’m being labeled a left wing liberal in this thread because I dare speak my mind. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I’m a conservative, pro life, not endorsing female ministers, believing Jesus is my Savior. I don’t support Trump, though, because I believe that he deep down is a left wing liberal, but at least he is getting the SCOTUS fixed.

I don’t, on the other hand, believe dishing out wrath, sarcasms and ridiculing folks will make them see the light.

The Good News don’t need wrath.

Then why are you such a fan that you do just that in this thread. And to be more clear than the OP is apparently, this thread is about the sin of homosexuality and LGBTQ behavior. That's the topic. Christians know there are other sins. This thread is about those sins.

And this, ""Some folks don’t like the thought of people being saved undeservedly, sounds familiar?"" doesn't sound familiar at all. It makes no sense whatever. Saved undeservedly? That tells me how you see those you label with that made up phrase.
A made up phrase that actually ridicules and demeans the sacrifice of Christ.

And, the other made up phrase, left over grace? For someone who likes to speak their mind? I'm one too. That phrase tells me you have no idea what you're talking about at all. Wrath, ridicule, sarcasm? That's in your posts. Not ours.

 

[Jennie-Mae]

Then why are you such a fan that you do just that in this thread. And to be more clear than the OP is apparently, this thread is about the sin of homosexuality and LGBTQ behavior. That's the topic. Christians know there are other sins. This thread is about those sins.

And this, ""Some folks don’t like the thought of people being saved undeservedly, sounds familiar?"" doesn't sound familiar at all. It makes no sense whatever. Saved undeservedly? That tells me how you see those you label with that made up phrase.
A made up phrase that actually ridicules and demeans the sacrifice of Christ.

And, the other made up phrase, left over grace? For someone who likes to speak their mind? I'm one too. That phrase tells me you have no idea what you're talking about at all. Wrath, ridicule, sarcasm? That's in your posts. Not ours.

I’d say it’s quite obvious that wrath, sarcasm and ridiculing have played a major role in some of yours, but in particular in a few other members posts holding opinions related to yours in this thread.

It’s no point in denying it, it’s for everybody to see.

It looks like it’s open season on members not fitting into yalls way of comprehending the Bible. Too bad, but it sure ain’t gonna change anything.

 

[Jennie-Mae]

I try not to do those things, but you sure like to accuse the brethren.

I cannot help that unbelievers like to pose as believers and do all kinds of nasty things in the name of Jesus the Christ. Those people do not preach the Gospel they preach a counterfeit.

No born again believer wants people to turn away form God, people turn away from God on their own volition, they suppress the truth in their unrighteousness.

Accuse the brethren? That’s a cheap shot. Especially whenever you been doing it yourself for some time now.

You are right, no born again Christian wants folks to turn away from God, but either way, that’s what the fruit of their efforts is.

Fire and brimstone are like that.

Funny, ain’t it.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

anyway, the op is noteworthy so here is something from the 1st page

I heard a commercial today on radio. It was a transgender group spokesperson talking about the changes in the laws to enable homosexuals and trans people to have equal rights. At the end she/he, I don't know which, said, we still have a long way to go.
I couldn't help myself. I thought, oh Lord, what's next?
This article is likely one of those in a long list of next.
By the way, does anyone notice the children in that picture are in costume? Some not all. Maybe the dude in drag doesn't realize it. One thing they can't ever change, trans people, is the hands. The hands of a man are square. Hard to hide that when claiming to be dressed as your inner girl.

yes I did notice that some of the children were also in costume

honestly, if I had children in school, they would be removed from that class

people need to understand the changes in the curriculum in favor of perversion and anti marriage between men and women

they can change the laws all they want and parade in the nude in San Francisco gay parades (I accidentally saw one of those and it is so disgusting that you have to pray to forget you saw it) but they are not normal, will never be normal and the fact they have to change the laws to begin with, is proof of it

their agenda includes forcing those who object to shut up while they say whatever they want and act anyway the want and attempt to pervert little minds