Trump Is The Swamp
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Isn't this the same line of logic Trump supporters use against those who scream "not my president"? "Do you live in the U.S.?If so, Donald Trump is your president." The people voted for Trump, whether some liked it or not. It is no diffeeent than the people electing Obama, whether the people liked it or not. I was 17 when Obama won his first presidency, and I wasn't registered to vote yet for his second. In neither one did I vote for him, but he was still my president. Also, you seem to miss my main point. People say they don't care about what Trump says or does because he wasn't elected to be a pope. These same people criticize Obama for performing non Christian acts. They're being hypocrites.
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Obama was an accomplished con man. If he did make noises like a Christian, his actions spoke louder than his words. He handed Iran -- the sworn enemy of the USA and the West and the primary culprit for state-sponsored terrorism -- almost two billion dollars to keep up their evil deeds. So at heart he was a Muslim supporting Jihad worldwide while pretending to be a Christian. The Koran permits such deception against the infidels.
this was your response to me quoting some of Obama's White House Easter Prayer Breakfast remarks ((a tradition he started in 2010, that Trump has not continued))
obviously, since Trump never expresses any Christian sentiments, it's pretty difficult to form an actual appropriate response.. so i guess you just thought libel would be the best way to go?
but in reference to the payment made to Iran under the Obama presidency, money owed since 1979, you might want to be better informed about what you're saying:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/03/01/was-obamas-1-7-billion-cash-deal-with-iran-prohibited-by-u-s-law/?utm_term=.bd61761d08e7
((seeing as our current president's tweets are a notoriously poor source of information))
so maybe you'll appreciate the link. or maybe not. *shrug*
obviously, since Trump never expresses any Christian sentiments, it's pretty difficult to form an actual appropriate response.. so i guess you just thought libel would be the best way to go?
but in reference to the payment made to Iran under the Obama presidency, money owed since 1979, you might want to be better informed about what you're saying:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/03/01/was-obamas-1-7-billion-cash-deal-with-iran-prohibited-by-u-s-law/?utm_term=.bd61761d08e7
((seeing as our current president's tweets are a notoriously poor source of information))
so maybe you'll appreciate the link. or maybe not. *shrug*
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam
#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”
#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”
Former President Barack Obama says he aspires to create "a million young Barack Obamas
or Michelle Obamas" who will pick up the baton in what he describes as the "relay race that
is human progress."
During the discussion, Obama praised the teens taking part in the March for
Our Lives movement and demanding more restrictions on firearm ownership.
He said that a “lot of our problems are caused by old men.”
-
The children’s crusade for more firearm restrictions is similar to the political youth movement
for socialism led by Sen. Bernie Sanders. Both movements seek to elevate the opinions of
children above the work of America’s Founding Fathers.
Both movements seek to create a better world by stripping more rights from individuals
and giving that power to an increasingly dominant central government.
#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”
#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”
Former President Barack Obama says he aspires to create "a million young Barack Obamas
or Michelle Obamas" who will pick up the baton in what he describes as the "relay race that
is human progress."
During the discussion, Obama praised the teens taking part in the March for
Our Lives movement and demanding more restrictions on firearm ownership.
He said that a “lot of our problems are caused by old men.”
-
The children’s crusade for more firearm restrictions is similar to the political youth movement
for socialism led by Sen. Bernie Sanders. Both movements seek to elevate the opinions of
children above the work of America’s Founding Fathers.
Both movements seek to create a better world by stripping more rights from individuals
and giving that power to an increasingly dominant central government.
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it's an act
listen...the devil uses scripture ALL the time
I could care less what mumbo jumbo prayer he repeated that someone else wrote down
and he is about as humble as King Tut
I don't have an American background...thing is, outside eyes often have a view that internal eyes do not
nothing personal Post...not at all angry at you...but pretty disgusted with the way fish bite the bait and then complain about the hook in their mouth
I don't care for politics or politicians as it is
and I have never said Trump is a Christian or the most Christian anything..that's not true either but I would much rather have him than Killary
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20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam
#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”
#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”
#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”
#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”
This should be taught in all the colleges and universities in our country. As a man once said character does matter.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
According to the Wall Street Journal, the $400 million cash payment was the first installment of
a $1.7 billion settlement that the Obama administration agreed to pay Iran. The settlement was
designed to resolve a dispute in the United Nations International Court of Justice over a failed
arms deal that took place before the 1979 Iranian Revolution, when Iran’s current Islamic radical
regime overthrew the regime of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi.
Iran had paid $400 million for U.S. arms, but America did not supply them because of the revolution.
It also did not return the $400 million. The Obama administration says the $1.7 billion includes this
$400 million and [$1.3 billion in interest.] It claims Iran initially demanded substantially more, but
eventually settled for $1.3 billion, thus making it a “good deal” for taxpayers.
President Obama also said in that January 17 speech, “Whereas Iran was steadily expanding its
nuclear program, we have now cut off every single path that Iran could have used to build a bomb.”
That is absolutely false. Since “Implementation Day,” Iran has accelerated its nuclear activities.
The deal allows Iran to build a bomb openly within 15 years, and a secret provision actually opens
the door even earlier than that.
The Obama administration reached out to what it called a “moderate” government in Iran,
even though chants of “Death to America” still ring out from government buildings in Tehran.
The Obama administration worked to lift all sanctions against Iran—releasing roughly $50 billion.
The Obama administration did not consider Iran to be an enemy—it’s trying to make a friend.
Iran took 10 U.S. sailors captive after they drifted into Iranian waters. Iranians filmed the sailors
with their hands behind their heads; one woman was forced to wear a headscarf; another soldier
was forced to give a recorded apology. After embarrassing the American captives, Iran released
them the next day to the showering praises of figures like Secretary of State John Kerry and
Vice President Joe Biden. Biden said it was just “standard nautical practice.”
Despite that episode, the administration still went ahead with the January 16 nuclear deal,
and also tacked on [a prisoner swap]. Iran is the largest state-sponsor of terrorism in the world.
It is clear that Iran is not interested in having peace with the nation it calls “the great Satan.”
For some reason, even though Iran is a sworn terrorist-sponsoring enemy, the Obama administration
aggressively wanted this deal. To ensure nobody interfered with it, Mr. Obama and his administration
used the National Security Agency to find out what members of Congress were thinking and saying
and trying to do. They also spied on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
They wanted to make certain nobody stopped them from removing the crippling sanctions
that were causing Iran such trouble and slowing down its nuclear activities. Ben Rhodes,
one of the president’s speech writers, bragged about how he had deceived journalists
and policy wonks, whom he called “the Blob” in an interview with the New York Times.
The White House was determined to ram the nuclear deal through without Senate approval or even
public support, and it devised and executed an elaborate propaganda campaign to do so. This all came
to light months later, but people don’t seem to care just how deceitful and lawless his administration was!
On January 17, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani called the deal a “golden page” and “turning point”
for his nation. How true that is! Iran was hemorrhaging financially because of Western sanctions. But
the nuclear agreement gave Iran access to $150 billion as the U.S. released its frozen assets.
This, without giving up or even promising to change its policy of subversion and aggression.
This, without having fortified its status as the world’s greatest purveyor of terrorism”
(Washington Post, January 21).
“The real story of Saturday, Jan. 16, 2016—‘Implementation Day’ of the Iran deal—was that it
marked a historic inflection point in the geopolitics in the Middle East,” wrote Charles Krauthammer.
“In a stroke, Iran shed almost four decades of rogue state status, and was declared a citizen of good
standing of the international community, open to trade, investment and diplomacy.
But that’s not all this administration did around January 16. On August 3, the Wall Street Journal
reported more shocking news about what the Obama administration did the very next day after
implementing this disastrous deal.
Hostages
On January 17, the Obama administration airlifted $400 million in cash to pay Iran for the release
of four innocent American hostages. On top of paying Iran cash, the U.S. returned to Iran seven
criminals who were imprisoned or facing charges, and also stopped seeking 14 Iranians who are
on Interpol’s watch list.
The Wall Street Journal reported U.S. officials saying that “most of these cases were tied to violations
of U.S. export laws and the sales of dual-use equipment that could be used in Iran’s military or nuclear
program …. ‘This is a one-time arrangement,’ said a second U.S. official, describing the prisoner swap.
‘It’s not a precedent for the future’” (January 16).
Ransom? What Ransom?
The Obama administration denied that the cash was a payment for the release of the four prisoners.
One of the hostages, Pastor Saeed Abedini, revealed in an interview that the hostage plane was not
allowed to leave until another aircraft carrying the money landed. No cash, no release.
“We slept at the airport,” he said. “And when I asked them why [they] don’t let us go because the
plane was there, [the] pilot was there, everyone was ready [to] leave the country, they said,
‘We are waiting for another plane, and [if that] plane doesn’t come, we [will] never let you go.’”
The plane they were waiting for was the one full of cash—
The pallet-load payment consisted of Swiss francs, euros and a few other foreign currencies.
The U.S. is not allowed to deal with Iran in U.S. dollars. If a corporation were to launder money
this way, the ceo of that company would be put behind bars.
Now, the Iranians are boasting about how the airlifted $400 million was the ransom money for four
Americans. “U.S. officials … acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said
they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible,” the Wall Street Journal reported.
-
President Obama wasn’t the first to offer Iran money in exchange for hostages.
Carter’s deal seems similar to the recent hostage deal former Barack Obama
tried to shield under the implementation of the nuclear agreement with Iran.
"The Iranians made a good proposition to us yesterday based on transferring $8.1 billion to the
Bank of England. They would then refund all except about $3 billion of it, release the hostages
immediately, and solve the rest of the disputes over interest rates and claims through normal
processes in the future."
Both administrations were adamant they would not pay ransom, even though the release
of the hostages in both instances was conditional upon Iran receiving money.
a $1.7 billion settlement that the Obama administration agreed to pay Iran. The settlement was
designed to resolve a dispute in the United Nations International Court of Justice over a failed
arms deal that took place before the 1979 Iranian Revolution, when Iran’s current Islamic radical
regime overthrew the regime of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi.
Iran had paid $400 million for U.S. arms, but America did not supply them because of the revolution.
It also did not return the $400 million. The Obama administration says the $1.7 billion includes this
$400 million and [$1.3 billion in interest.] It claims Iran initially demanded substantially more, but
eventually settled for $1.3 billion, thus making it a “good deal” for taxpayers.
President Obama also said in that January 17 speech, “Whereas Iran was steadily expanding its
nuclear program, we have now cut off every single path that Iran could have used to build a bomb.”
That is absolutely false. Since “Implementation Day,” Iran has accelerated its nuclear activities.
The deal allows Iran to build a bomb openly within 15 years, and a secret provision actually opens
the door even earlier than that.
The Obama administration reached out to what it called a “moderate” government in Iran,
even though chants of “Death to America” still ring out from government buildings in Tehran.
The Obama administration worked to lift all sanctions against Iran—releasing roughly $50 billion.
The Obama administration did not consider Iran to be an enemy—it’s trying to make a friend.
Iran took 10 U.S. sailors captive after they drifted into Iranian waters. Iranians filmed the sailors
with their hands behind their heads; one woman was forced to wear a headscarf; another soldier
was forced to give a recorded apology. After embarrassing the American captives, Iran released
them the next day to the showering praises of figures like Secretary of State John Kerry and
Vice President Joe Biden. Biden said it was just “standard nautical practice.”
Despite that episode, the administration still went ahead with the January 16 nuclear deal,
and also tacked on [a prisoner swap]. Iran is the largest state-sponsor of terrorism in the world.
It is clear that Iran is not interested in having peace with the nation it calls “the great Satan.”
For some reason, even though Iran is a sworn terrorist-sponsoring enemy, the Obama administration
aggressively wanted this deal. To ensure nobody interfered with it, Mr. Obama and his administration
used the National Security Agency to find out what members of Congress were thinking and saying
and trying to do. They also spied on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
They wanted to make certain nobody stopped them from removing the crippling sanctions
that were causing Iran such trouble and slowing down its nuclear activities. Ben Rhodes,
one of the president’s speech writers, bragged about how he had deceived journalists
and policy wonks, whom he called “the Blob” in an interview with the New York Times.
The White House was determined to ram the nuclear deal through without Senate approval or even
public support, and it devised and executed an elaborate propaganda campaign to do so. This all came
to light months later, but people don’t seem to care just how deceitful and lawless his administration was!
On January 17, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani called the deal a “golden page” and “turning point”
for his nation. How true that is! Iran was hemorrhaging financially because of Western sanctions. But
the nuclear agreement gave Iran access to $150 billion as the U.S. released its frozen assets.
This, without giving up or even promising to change its policy of subversion and aggression.
This, without having fortified its status as the world’s greatest purveyor of terrorism”
(Washington Post, January 21).
“The real story of Saturday, Jan. 16, 2016—‘Implementation Day’ of the Iran deal—was that it
marked a historic inflection point in the geopolitics in the Middle East,” wrote Charles Krauthammer.
“In a stroke, Iran shed almost four decades of rogue state status, and was declared a citizen of good
standing of the international community, open to trade, investment and diplomacy.
But that’s not all this administration did around January 16. On August 3, the Wall Street Journal
reported more shocking news about what the Obama administration did the very next day after
implementing this disastrous deal.
Hostages
On January 17, the Obama administration airlifted $400 million in cash to pay Iran for the release
of four innocent American hostages. On top of paying Iran cash, the U.S. returned to Iran seven
criminals who were imprisoned or facing charges, and also stopped seeking 14 Iranians who are
on Interpol’s watch list.
The Wall Street Journal reported U.S. officials saying that “most of these cases were tied to violations
of U.S. export laws and the sales of dual-use equipment that could be used in Iran’s military or nuclear
program …. ‘This is a one-time arrangement,’ said a second U.S. official, describing the prisoner swap.
‘It’s not a precedent for the future’” (January 16).
Ransom? What Ransom?
The Obama administration denied that the cash was a payment for the release of the four prisoners.
One of the hostages, Pastor Saeed Abedini, revealed in an interview that the hostage plane was not
allowed to leave until another aircraft carrying the money landed. No cash, no release.
“We slept at the airport,” he said. “And when I asked them why [they] don’t let us go because the
plane was there, [the] pilot was there, everyone was ready [to] leave the country, they said,
‘We are waiting for another plane, and [if that] plane doesn’t come, we [will] never let you go.’”
The plane they were waiting for was the one full of cash—
The pallet-load payment consisted of Swiss francs, euros and a few other foreign currencies.
The U.S. is not allowed to deal with Iran in U.S. dollars. If a corporation were to launder money
this way, the ceo of that company would be put behind bars.
Now, the Iranians are boasting about how the airlifted $400 million was the ransom money for four
Americans. “U.S. officials … acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said
they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible,” the Wall Street Journal reported.
-
President Obama wasn’t the first to offer Iran money in exchange for hostages.
Carter’s deal seems similar to the recent hostage deal former Barack Obama
tried to shield under the implementation of the nuclear agreement with Iran.
"The Iranians made a good proposition to us yesterday based on transferring $8.1 billion to the
Bank of England. They would then refund all except about $3 billion of it, release the hostages
immediately, and solve the rest of the disputes over interest rates and claims through normal
processes in the future."
Both administrations were adamant they would not pay ransom, even though the release
of the hostages in both instances was conditional upon Iran receiving money.