Trump the low life, some quotes of him speaking of certian women if not all

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He isn't running for president of the United States of America.
i don't care if he's running for the secretary of local optomist club. Check out the story of the woman at the well and get back to me.
 
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i don't care if he's running for the secretary of local optomist club. Check out the story of the woman at the well and get back to me.
Well, we weren't discussing Dude653 and his past. The thread is about discussing Trump and some of the things he's done/said. I don't think it's appropriate to derail the thread and make it about Dude653 especially since he's not a candidate for president. Now, if he decides to run, then I'd understand you wanting to talk about his past in a new thread.
 
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Well, we weren't discussing Dude653 and his past. The thread is about discussing Trump and some of the things he's done/said. I don't think it's appropriate to derail the thread and make it about Dude653 especially since he's not a candidate for president. Now, if he decides to run, then I'd understand you wanting to talk about his past in a new thread.
I think that is the sole concern of the OP. When someone makes gross exaggerated comments about a person he kind of sets himself up to be criticized. If calmador is bothered by the derail(as you call it), Im sure he will let us know.
 
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I think that is the sole concern of the OP. When someone makes gross exaggerated comments about a person he kind of sets himself up to be criticized. If calmador is bothered by the derail(as you call it), Im sure he will let us know.
It's not so much the derail I'm objecting to (I sometimes accidentally do it too), it's that personal attacks are not only frowned upon by the rules of CC, they are unnecessary... especially when it's rooted in speculation (assuming that because Dude653 made hyperbolic statements against Trump, he must be hiding something too).
 
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Well, we weren't discussing Dude653 and his past. The thread is about discussing Trump and some of the things he's done/said. I don't think it's appropriate to derail the thread and make it about Dude653 especially since he's not a candidate for president. Now, if he decides to run, then I'd understand you wanting to talk about his past in a new thread.
Is this a site where we talk about Christian character and worldview or a site where we are constrained by whatever is considered by whoever to be out of bounds? If a person wants to make ignorant exaggerated claims as though they have some divine insight I'm gonna call em out on it. That kind of talk and attitudes are quite frankly more of a problem in this world than some knucklehead running for president. Imo. One would assume that a person claiming Christ was murdered on a cross to save them would have at least a basic understanding of what grace has done for them and it would show in their speech.
 
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It's not so much the derail I'm objecting to (I sometimes accidentally do it too), it's that personal attacks are not only frowned upon by the rules of CC, they are unnecessary... especially when it's rooted in speculation (assuming that because Dude653 made hyperbolic statements against Trump, he must be hiding something too).
Alot of discussion on this site is rooted in speculation. Hyperbolic statements fly around like kites on a windy day. . I didnt see anyone name calling. Self righteous, righteous, whatever;that is not a personal attack. Dont bother yourself with such trivial things. The suspect the mods will intervene if they deem it appropriate.
 
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It's not so much the derail I'm objecting to (I sometimes accidentally do it too), it's that personal attacks are not only frowned upon by the rules of CC, they are unnecessary... especially when it's rooted in speculation (assuming that because Dude653 made hyperbolic statements against Trump, he must be hiding something too).
it isn't that a person with a critical spirit is intentionally hiding something. It's more often that they are afraid of their own depravity being exposed to the light. They haven't surrendered it to Jesus. Much of my commentary on this site deals with the self deception that people do to themselves. You can not like it, but it's who I am so you'll have to deal with it or ignore me. You certainly aren't gonna change me.
 
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it isn't that a person with a critical spirit is intentionally hiding something. It's more often that they are afraid of their own depravity being exposed to the light. They haven't surrendered it to Jesus. Much of my commentary on this site deals with the self deception that people do to themselves. You can not like it, but it's who I am so you'll have to deal with it or ignore me. You certainly aren't gonna change me.
You're right. I can only remind you of what the rules say about civility. I can't change you. Only the spirit can.
 
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You're right. I can only remind you of what the rules say about civility. I can't change you. Only the spirit can.
I reject what you say here. It is an attempt to put me beneath you and I don't allow that kind of false righteousness to go without rejecting it. If you think a post I authored is uncivil then report it but don't try this kind of religious arrogance on me.
 
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I reject what you say here. It is an attempt to put me beneath you and I don't allow that kind of false righteousness to go without rejecting it. If you think a post I authored is uncivil then report it but don't try this kind of religious arrogance on me.
In your previous post you made a statement about me not changing you. I said this because it was not my intention to try to change who you are as a person... I can only remind you of what the rules state of civility.

You certainly aren't gonna change me.
More importantly, I don't put you above or beneath me. We are both children of God and we are both sinners. You misinterpreted my spirit when I wrote that message.
 
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I think that is the sole concern of the OP. When someone makes gross exaggerated comments about a person he kind of sets himself up to be criticized. If calmador is bothered by the derail(as you call it), Im sure he will let us know.
Who cares if calmador is bothered? He's a lowlife for naming this thread as he did.
 
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Is this a site where we talk about Christian character and worldview or a site where we are constrained by whatever is considered by whoever to be out of bounds? If a person wants to make ignorant exaggerated claims as though they have some divine insight I'm gonna call em out on it. That kind of talk and attitudes are quite frankly more of a problem in this world than some knucklehead running for president. Imo. One would assume that a person claiming Christ was murdered on a cross to save them would have at least a basic understanding of what grace has done for them and it would show in their speech.
translation...'we can talk about christian character as long as nobody dares to measure trump by the same standard of christian character'

classic double standard...you have amply demonstrated that you are completely fine with character attacks on literally everyone -except for trump-

and to think you accused -me- of inconsistency...
 
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translation...'we can talk about christian character as long as nobody is questioning trump's christian character'

classic double standard...you have amply demonstrated that you are completely fine with character attacks on literally everyone -except for trump-
I don't hold Trump to the standard of my faith. But I hold you to it...cuz you claim it....like Cruz. Trump is an a-hole. I'm not denying that. Ship captains don't get things done by being nice guys. Nice ship Captains run their ships aground or sink them and bail out into their life boats.
 
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I don't hold Trump to the standard of my faith. But I hold you to it...cuz you claim it....like Cruz. Trump is an a-hole. I'm not denying that. Ship captains don't get things done by being nice guys. Nice ship Captains run their ships aground or sink them and bail out into their life boats.
trump has claimed over and over that he is a christian...loves the bible...is a more legitimate christian than ben carson...is going to defend christianity...and so on...

or haven't you been paying attention this entire time?

you are holding everyone who claims christianity -except for trump- to this standard...why is trump excused?

for the record this is a rhetorical question...everyone else already knows the answer...
 
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trump has claimed over and over that he is a christian...loves the bible...is a more legitimate christian than ben carson...is going to defend christianity...and so on...

or haven't you been paying attention this entire time?
So does 80% of the population. He says he's a christian...so what. Maybe he is maybe he isn't but he doesn't limp around with it like it's his crutch. And frankly, I believe him when he says that he will defend Christians. He knows that people like me are the backbone of this country.
 
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So does 80% of the population. He says he's a christian...so what.
so what? that isn't your attitude when anyone else -except for trump- claims christianity...

I hold you to it...cuz you claim it...
i claim christianity as my faith therefore you say you hold me to christian standards...
trump claims christianity as his faith...and you say 'so what?'

the fact is that you have a double standard exempting -one person- from scrutiny...
 
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so what? that isn't your attitude when anyone else -except for trump- claims christianity...



i claim christianity as my faith therefore you say you hold me to christian standards...
trump claims christianity as his faith...and you say 'so what?'

the fact is that you have a double standard exempting -one person- from scrutiny...
No...I just look at the bottom of your posts at your signature and it oozes the arrogance you accuse Trump of having.
 
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No...I just look at the bottom of your posts at your signature and it oozes the arrogance you accuse Trump of having.
i would love to know what is 'arrogant' about...

...believing in the trinity
...subscribing to the ancient creeds
...believing in the traditional christology
...being tentative about my opinions on cessationism versus continuationism
...believing in salvation by grace alone through faith alone
...etc. etc. etc.
 
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i would love to know what is 'arrogant' about...

...believing in the trinity
...subscribing to the ancient creeds
...believing in the traditional christology
...being tentative about my opinions on cessationism versus continuationism
...believing in salvation by grace alone through faith alone
...etc. etc. etc.
And yet displaying none of them on this site......at least that I have ever seen.