Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

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maxwel

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BraveLittleToaster said:
Two days ago, Trump issued a remarkable and completely unsubstantiated claim, alleging that millions of voters cast their ballots illegally. However, no evidence was presented to support this claim, and experts and election officials are almost unanimous in their agreement that voter fraud is almost nonexistent. Organizations such as the Brennan Center for Justice, Factcheck, and the Associated Press all dismiss the notion that widespread voter fraud occurs. Lindsey Graham, a seasoned Republican politician, challenged Trump to back his assertion up and expressed confidence in the integrity of the 2016 presidential election results.

Despite all this, I think Trump's baseless suspicion of widespread voter fraud isn't the real issue. It's his utter lack of restraint and tact -- his whimsical attitude and bombastic ego on full display.
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So... lets just clarify things a bit.

Your profile says:

A.) You're not a christian... yet here you are, on a Christian forum.
B.) You just joined yesterday.
C.) You are ONLY posting political views, and of course, they are progressive-liberal political views... which are, of course, entirely anti-Trump.

So you, a non-Christian, came here, to a Christian "religious" forum, purely to make contentious accusations on political issues, and disrupt our perfectly peaceful community?

Ok.

Well, at least we've cleared that up and know what you're doing here.

Carry on.




 
maxwel

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Oh, and ty for inviting yourself to our party, and trying your best to disrupt it and aggravate everyone.
That was lovely a sentiment.
: )

You're a delightful human being.






 
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BraveLittleToaster said:
Two days ago, Trump issued a remarkable and completely unsubstantiated claim, alleging that millions of voters cast their ballots illegally. However, no evidence was presented to support this claim, and experts and election officials are almost unanimous in their agreement that voter fraud is almost nonexistent. Organizations such as the Brennan Center for Justice, Factcheck, and the Associated Press all dismiss the notion that widespread voter fraud occurs. Lindsey Graham, a seasoned Republican politician, challenged Trump to back his assertion up and expressed confidence in the integrity of the 2016 presidential election results.

Despite all this, I think Trump's baseless suspicion of widespread voter fraud isn't the real issue. It's his utter lack of restraint and tact -- his whimsical attitude and bombastic ego on full display.
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Trump is doing what Trump does best,keeping the press in a tizzy. Now if we want to talk about no tact and ego,what of a woman who refuses to concede in public and leaves her supporters weeping,sending someone in her place. Had a man done that they'd have had some nasty names to call him. But she was given a break and didn't have to show her face till the next day. The president had to call her to prompt her to concede and call Trump.Now that is ego on full display.
 
Tommy379

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The little toaster oven's picture resembles someone who hasn't been on here in awhile.
 
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maxwel said:
You're a delightful human being.
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Look, you're going to have to make your font size larger and more colorful if you want me to have any chance of reading it. I seem to have misplaced my glasses.

Terrible mistake on my part, by the way. I meant to select "Christian" as I was speeding through my profile. Thanks for pointing it out! :eek:
 
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p_rehbein

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You all do know Paul Ryan..........remember him......said the Election was "fair" and there was "no evidence of voter fraud" right? But, then, it"s Paul Ryan, he probably voted for Hillary huh?

So funny to see Trumpies calling other folks crybabies when all they did for weeks was cry about how the Election was going to be stolen from Trump, how the "System" was crooked and rigged against Trump, and, THEN, Trump WINS, and suddenly "everyone else" is a crybaby..........

too, too funny........hypocritical, but too, too funny

Christian or not, agenda or not, the woman is right about one thing...........this is ALL ABOUT Trumps ego, and his not being able to accept that he got slammed in the Popular Vote count.

No wonder his supporters are as they are.............EVEN HE can't simply accept that he WON, and begin to ACT like a President.
 
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BraveLittleToaster said:
He did indeed win. The thread's purpose is to discuss Trump's willingness to entertain baseless, rash accusations due to his ego, which is alarming.
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Hardly baseless. Clinton has pushed hard for the past couple of years to keep the "supposedly" legal immigrants from having to have Voter ID. The same with certain blacks, for "some" reason LOL. Why do you suppose she would want neither to have to prove they were eligible to vote?

I'm sure you can give us a reason. It is no harder for one of them to get this ID than it is for anyone of us.

You know the answer as well as anyone else. She needed people who could not qualify for such an ID to be able to cast a vote for her.
 
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p_rehbein said:
You all do know Paul Ryan..........remember him......said the Election was "fair" and there was "no evidence of voter fraud" right? But, then, it"s Paul Ryan, he probably voted for Hillary huh?

So funny to see Trumpies calling other folks crybabies when all they did for weeks was cry about how the Election was going to be stolen from Trump, how the "System" was crooked and rigged against Trump, and, THEN, Trump WINS, and suddenly "everyone else" is a crybaby..........

too, too funny........hypocritical, but too, too funny

Christian or not, agenda or not, the woman is right about one thing...........this is ALL ABOUT Trumps ego, and his not being able to accept that he got slammed in the Popular Vote count.

No wonder his supporters are as they are.............EVEN HE can't simply accept that he WON, and begin to ACT like a President.
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Yeah, and what really makes me upset is seeing all those Trump supporters protesting and rioting in the streets, getting paid $15 an hour by George Soros. I really hate that!
 
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Hardly baseless. Clinton has pushed hard for the past couple of years to keep the "supposedly" legal immigrants from having to have Voter ID. The same with certain blacks, for "some" reason LOL. Why do you suppose she would want neither to have to prove they were eligible to vote?

I'm sure you can give us a reason. It is no harder for one of them to get this ID than it is for anyone of us.

You know the answer as well as anyone else. She needed people who could not qualify for such an ID to be able to cast a vote for her.
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I predict crickets. We'll see.
 
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I predict crickets. We'll see.
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I'm going to respectfully request that you change your tone. You're more than free to actually contribute to the discussion.
 
maxwel

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BraveLittleToaster said:
I'm going to respectfully request that you change your tone. You're more than free to actually contribute to the discussion.
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I'm doing my best to remember... but I can't recall anyone giving you special privileges to determine for others how they are allowed to speak.

Surely there was a memo and I missed it.
 
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I'm sure you can give us a reason. It is no harder for one of them to get this ID than it is for anyone of us.
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The debate concerning voter ID laws is moot, since all evidence to date would suggest that electoral fraud, especially at the presidential level, is vanishingly rare. In your defense, it would be a simple matter to cast an illegal vote without voter ID laws, but that is -- in no way -- evidence that widespread voter fraud among illegal immigrants actually occurs. Because of that lack of evidence, Trump has no way of knowing how many illegal ballots were cast, and therefore cannot claim that he won the popular vote. Truly, it's as simple as that.

Many would argue that voter ID laws only serve to suppress voter turnout among minorities, especially in terms of younger people, who are much less likely to hold photo IDs. This perspective is popular among left-leaning politicians, including Hillary Clinton. Wouldn't you be inclined to believe that this is a more rational explanation than the conspiratorial notion that she wants illegals to carry her through an election?
 
Tommy379

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BraveLittleToaster,

Hey ; )

Tommy
 
Utah

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BraveLittleToaster said:
I'm going to respectfully request that you change your tone. You're more than free to actually contribute to the discussion.
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Sorry, my new friend, you shall receive no preferential treatment from me. I'm the real deal -- direct in my summations and demanding accountability from those whom I am debating.
 
jenniferand2

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Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

BraveLittleToaster said:
Two days ago, Trump issued a remarkable and completely unsubstantiated claim, alleging that millions of voters cast their ballots illegally. However, no evidence was presented to support this claim, and experts and election officials are almost unanimous in their agreement that voter fraud is almost nonexistent. Organizations such as the Brennan Center for Justice, Factcheck, and the Associated Press all dismiss the notion that widespread voter fraud occurs. Lindsey Graham, a seasoned Republican politician, challenged Trump to back his assertion up and expressed confidence in the integrity of the 2016 presidential election results.

Despite all this, I think Trump's baseless suspicion of widespread voter fraud isn't the real issue. It's his utter lack of restraint and tact -- his whimsical attitude and bombastic ego on full display.
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the claim that millions if illegals have vote is not a new thing it happens every election. Yes I agree it is done in a horrible manor but he fired that remark off after Hillary and Stein had to have a flipping recount done because their cry baby sobbing butts could not just except the votes for what they were after she said live on t.v. that she would except the results of the election.. So that is that I guess and personally if I was him I would have done the same thing. I would be sick of all these stunts the Hillary supporters and herself are doing.
 
Tommy379

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Jill stein is just running a fundraiser to cover her future legal cost of being a vandal.
 
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jenniferand2 said:
the claim that millions if illegals have vote is not a new thing it happens every election. Yes I agree it is done in a horrible manor but he fired that remark off after Hillary and Stein had to have a flipping recount done because their cry baby sobbing butts could not just except the votes for what they were after she said live on t.v. that she would except the results of the election.. So that is that I guess and personally if I was him I would have done the same thing. I would be sick of all these stunts the Hillary supporters and herself are doing.
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I agree -- a recount, although well within Clinton's / Stein's rights, is pointless. That being said, if Trump were to win the popular vote but lose the electoral vote, I can't help but imagine that he would seek a recount in light of his past statements.
 
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The debate concerning voter ID laws is moot, since all evidence to date would suggest that electoral fraud, especially at the presidential level, is vanishingly rare. In your defense, it would be a simple matter to cast an illegal vote without voter ID laws, but that is -- in no way -- evidence that widespread voter fraud among illegal immigrants actually occurs. Because of that lack of evidence, Trump has no way of knowing how many illegal ballots were cast, and therefore cannot claim that he won the popular vote. Truly, it's as simple as that. Many would argue that voter ID laws only serve to suppress voter turnout among minorities, especially in terms of younger people, who are much less likely to hold photo IDs. This perspective is popular among left-leaning politicians, including Hillary Clinton. Wouldn't you be inclined to believe that this is a more rational explanation than the conspiratorial notion that she wants illegals to carry her through an election?
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Yea I'm sure all the dead people that tend to vote democrat would have something to say something about your rare election fraud claim... I've even seen video of a person stuffing ballot boxes & a guy on facebook bragging about illegal voting (voting multiple times) saying he plans to do it all week. But according to you fraud is extremely rare....
 
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I can't help but imagine that he would seek a recount in light of his past statements.
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What's the Bible ^^^^^^^ say to do with these?
 
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I predict crickets. We'll see.
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I didn't ask for "preferential treatment." I'm merely asking you to dispel your inexplicable hostility toward me in the name of courtesy and decency. Candor is a virtue, and I can respect a straightforward man, but your brand of "candor" comes across as improper and disrespectful.
 
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