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Desdichado

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We'll find out soon enough. You just keep on making the subjective out to be fact and I'll keep being entertained by it. You remind of the guys on guitar forums arguing about who the best guitarist in the world is.
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Desdichado

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Good point. However, the head-to-head had Bernie even higher than Hillary was against Trump. It may have been in Trump's best interest that the DNC and Hillary colluded.
Hey, I'm for DNC rigging in the sense that I do not want the really far leftist loons running anything.
 

Desdichado

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Hillary Clinton is on the whole more conniving and less trustworthy than Bernie Sanders.

Considering the deadliness of his ideology when applied to the letter, I consider anything that mitigates them to be a virtue.
 
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KimPetras

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Hey, I'm for DNC rigging in the sense that I do not want the really far leftist loons running anything.
Well, I think the country would be astronomically safer with Bernie than Hillary... There might not be a country for the "far leftist loons" TO run if Hillary is president.
 
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jennymae

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Mr Sanders' ideology is different from anything we've seen on American soil. It's like the European left has made a budget trip across the pond and then didn't have enough money for the return.
 

Desdichado

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Well, I think the country would be astronomically safer with Bernie than Hillary... There might not be a country for the "far leftist loons" TO run if Hillary is president.
How would the nation be "astronomically safer" under Communism? I'm not even using hyperbole here.
 

Desdichado

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Mr Sanders' ideology is different from anything we've seen on American soil. It's like the European left has made a budget trip across the pond and then didn't have enough money for the return.
It's the unvarnished ideology of the gulag and five-year-plan.

Even if someone is honest about implementing it, they are still stealing and killing on a grand scale.
 
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KimPetras

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How would the nation be "astronomically safer" under Communism? I'm not even using hyperbole here.
Well "communism" is the hyperbole of "Democratic-Socialism" isn't it? :p

I, along with Trump supporters, fear Hillary's lack of foreign policy and her eagerness to engage with Russia has people a little paranoid about a potential nuclear war. Is it hyperbole? God willing... I'd hate to see two states come even close to that situation. Nevertheless, while Bernie is a Democratic-Socialist, he isn't the warmonger that Hillary is. Looking at his foreign policy on his resume, he is the only candidate to be against invading Iraq. He isn't anti-war, he is just wanting that to be the last course of action with a state like Russia.
 

Desdichado

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"Democratic Socialism" is a nebulous term identifying the process by which the socialist (classically a Communist fellow traveller) seeks to take power. It was largely by Soviet directive that the fifth-column in the West adopted the term. Bernie is more or less a fossil from that era.

In terms of expressed philosophy and even, to a certain extent, methodology Bernie is very similar to Lenin. If we call Lenin a Communist. If we call fifth column Soviet sympathizers Communists, then it's fitting and accurate to apply the term to Bernie.

I don't want this to turn into a long screed, but Bernie's anti-war stance is likely a shift in focus from war abroad to war at home. Quite comparable Brest-Litovsk.

But then somebody like Fascists or British socialists would claim it's easier to implement socialism while at war. I suppose that's a family disagreement. "Give Peace a Chance!" heh heh heh
 
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KimPetras

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"Democratic Socialism" is a nebulous term identifying the process by which the socialist (classically a Communist fellow traveller) seeks to take power. It was largely by Soviet directive that the fifth-column in the West adopted the term. Bernie is more or less a fossil from that era.

In terms of expressed philosophy and even, to a certain extent, methodology Bernie is very similar to Lenin. If we call Lenin a Communist. If we call fifth column Soviet sympathizers Communists, then it's fitting and accurate to apply the term to Bernie.

I don't want this to turn into a long screed, but Bernie's anti-war stance is likely a shift in focus from war abroad to war at home. Quite comparable Brest-Litovsk.

But then somebody like Fascists or British socialists would claim it's easier to implement socialism while at war. I suppose that's a family disagreement. "Give Peace a Chance!" heh heh heh
I have about 5 years of reading to understand what you're talking about. But I'll take you're word for it... you're a smart guy. lol
 

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The good news is i voted today so that stress is behind me. I got an "I voted" sticker and everything. I'm special.
 

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Well, a late-night USA television host (Jimmy Kimmel?) started his show by saying, (paraphrase) "So, let's make things easier here: Who here has NOT been groped by Donald Trump?"
I'm sticking with Mr. Trump because he has repented of his past behaviors publicly, and Pres. Clinton did far more to harm women. Mr. Trump said he will not let the voters down, and I believe he deserves that chance after all the hard work he has done to get the job. Afterall, America can always say: "YOU'RE FIRED!!" Hillary just doesn't seem to have the "right stuff" in my opinion to lead a country in crisis. And her enthusiastic support of Planned Parenthood, an agency that most women find sickening, is disgusting. 58 million aborted human beings is far more sickening to God than a man with issues in his past who has apparently overcome them and is able to make command decisions for a nation in crisis. Ms. Clinton is a Washington insider in the "Circle of Mistrust," and I think America should move on--forward, not backward.
 

Desdichado

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I have about 5 years of reading to understand what you're talking about. But I'll take you're word for it... you're a smart guy. lol
Well then I hope that what I write comes across as actual knowledge rather than a puff piece. hahahaha
 
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CharlieGrown

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Good point. However, the head-to-head had Bernie even higher than Hillary was against Trump. It may have been in Trump's best interest that the DNC and Hillary colluded.
We definitely would be discussing more relevant issues and how Sanders differs from Trump then we are now with Sharia Hillary in the mix with all of her shortcomings.
 
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jennymae

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We definitely would be discussing more relevant issues and how Sanders differs from Trump then we are now with Sharia Hillary in the mix with all of her shortcomings.
We have two national lampoons running for office, relevant issues ceased to exist a very long time ago. It's now about how much ruckus each candidate is able to cause.
 

Desdichado

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We definitely would be discussing more relevant issues and how Sanders differs from Trump then we are now with Sharia Hillary in the mix with all of her shortcomings.
I'll agree with that. Sanders does elevate the conversation.
 
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People tend to not give credit where credit is due. Trump elevated topics to the mainstream that have been swept under the carpet for far too long. Let's not forget that.
 

Tommy379

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"Democratic Socialism" is a nebulous term identifying the process by which the socialist (classically a Communist fellow traveller) seeks to take power. It was largely by Soviet directive that the fifth-column in the West adopted the term. Bernie is more or less a fossil from that era.

In terms of expressed philosophy and even, to a certain extent, methodology Bernie is very similar to Lenin. If we call Lenin a Communist. If we call fifth column Soviet sympathizers Communists, then it's fitting and accurate to apply the term to Bernie.

I don't want this to turn into a long screed, but Bernie's anti-war stance is likely a shift in focus from war abroad to war at home. Quite comparable Brest-Litovsk.

But then somebody like Fascists or British socialists would claim it's easier to implement socialism while at war. I suppose that's a family disagreement. "Give Peace a Chance!" heh heh heh
To be fair, the soviets had free elections...... for those who are party members, and yeah only one party was allowed. Did I mention most candidates were unopposed.
 
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chancer

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She is perfectly entitled to her opinion without you being rude. Perhaps the way you speak to others is more of an issue that the presidential candidacy ... just saying.
Hi everyone, I would just like to apologies publicly for this comment, I jumped into a conversation when I didn't have all the facts. After reading some of the other posts Rachel bible student has written, I very must disagree with her bad attitude and wrong use of scripture. Please accept my apologies. Especially renewened hope - I was wrong and I admit this. Also Im sorry for being judgmental towards your attitude when I dont know you or know what your intentions were.
 

Tommy379

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Hi everyone, I would just like to apologies publicly for this comment, I jumped into a conversation when I didn't have all the facts. After reading some of the other posts Rachel bible student has written, I very must disagree with her bad attitude and wrong use of scripture. Please accept my apologies. Especially renewened hope - I was wrong and I admit this. Also Im sorry for being judgmental towards your attitude when I dont know you or know what your intentions were.
How long ago was that? This thread is 20 pages deep.