U.S., Cuba exchange prisoners and begin normalizing relations with one another

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Desdichado

Desdichado

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I cannot believe I wrote this much. I really should just post this to a blog and give ya'll a link. CC has brought out the amateur polemicist in me.

Also, exceptions often prove the rule. Why are American human rights violations so obvious? Same reason the Mexican American War is hotly debated in relation to the Monroe Doctrine.

It's also the same reason why a wart on Tyra Bank's face would be more noticeable than a wart on Warty McWartson's face.
 
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biscuit said:
Cuba's human rights record is abysmal, and our recognition of them utterly destroys the efforts of the last 50 years for them to accountability. Not that the effort was working all that well, but now there is no leverage at all.

And do you think our human rights record is any better when examining the plight of minorities' cultures that existed for the past two centuries. It is so bad that American History won't cover most of them with details & true facts. The reality is most of the literate & educated world know these details & facts better than we do because they didn't cover it up.
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America: The country so badly hated people risk their lives to be here!

Somewhere in that statement is irony, sarcasm and truth.
 
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Frankly I don't care what the Europeans think about Texas justice. The fact is, the capital punishment process is replete with safeguards, reviews, judicial overwatch, and countless appeals that assure that every aspect of the case is examined with a fine-toothed comb to the nth degree. European outrage makes no difference to me whatsoever, nor does it to Texans.

Really? When did that happen? Because Texas and Missouri -- my home state -- both have carried out the death penalty 10 times this year, the most by any state in four years. That's 20 of the 35 men and women executed across the U.S. this year. Texas executed four black men, four Latinos, one white man and one white woman. Missouri executed five blacks and five whites. So it seems your "European outrage" didn't do much but make you feel better. Justice was done.
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To you, perhaps. On the other hand, of the 35 men and women executed this year, they averaged 17 years, four months on death row from sentencing to execution. We do take the death penalty seriously in this country. We make every effort to assure that justice is served, and that means making certain the wheels of justice turn excruciatingly slowly, which is more than can be said for the death process for the victims of these murderers. [/QUOTE]


This might be true now, I am not sure.
But I have seen a number of reports were a person was given capital punishment and put to death, and the later evidence came out proven that person was innocent all along. One just happened about 10 years ago, a man was executed and then evidence came out two years ago showing him to have been innocent all along.
 
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When it comes to capital punishment I don't trust the justice system to always get it right. There is way too much corruption and crookedness in our system.
 
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kennethcadwell

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skipp said:
When it comes to capital punishment I don't trust the justice system to always get it right. There is way too much corruption and crookedness in our system.
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Exactly, to say they comb through it with a fine tooth comb and allow a bunch of appeals so that no mistakes are made just doesn't cut it. Nor does it show in the results.
 
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kennethcadwell said:
[QUOTE ]To you, perhaps. On the other hand, of the 35 men and women executed this year, they averaged 17 years, four months on death row from sentencing to execution. We do take the death penalty seriously in this country. We make every effort to assure that justice is served, and that means making certain the wheels of justice turn excruciatingly slowly, which is more than can be said for the death process for the victims of these murderers.
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This might be true now, I am not sure.
But I have seen a number of reports were a person was given capital punishment and put to death, and the later evidence came out proven that person was innocent all along. One just happened about 10 years ago, a man was executed and then evidence came out two years ago showing him to have been innocent all along.
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"I have seen a number of reports" makes for a poor defense.
 
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