Uvalde, TX School Shooting

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kaylagrl

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I have already said that this could be optional, if you don't want the state to have your social media address then you can go to a mental health professional that would interview you and sign off on a form for you to buy the gun.

You are required to have an eye test before you can drive and a written test and a driving test.

There is no violation of your rights to require a variety of tests before you can get a gun.
The more news that's coming out, the more I see, this kids life was dysfunctional on every level. When there is no help and no hope people do horrible things.
 

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The more news that's coming out, the more I see, this kids life was dysfunctional on every level. When there is no help and no hope people do horrible things.
where there is no functioning parents, no functioning support system, and most important, no Bible, no love of God, no prayer, it is easy to be turned over to evil.
 

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Peoples mental health can change over time it doesnt necessarily need an official diagnosis, anyone can get drunk or take drugs and do something terrible like this.

Also even if the shooter obtained the weapon legally
anyone can still steal or be given a gun from someone who has one and didnt lock it up properly

plus the ammo suppliers I dont think check when they are selling anyway. They make too much money off it

as for the school, on a good day maybe they would have security measures in place but it could be one of those days where it wasnt, as can happen in a busy school, teachers off sick, principal on leave, not enough cover etc

the risk is always there, its just higher in the US because of the bigger population, prevalance of weapons, and casual nature of using them, nobody dares ban them outright because it would infringe on peoples 'rights to bear arms'

as for video games that simulate shooting, its just training people, kids even, the wrong way. You dont learn to drive a car by playing Grand theft auto! or ANY of those car racing games. That is not even driving a car responsibly by any means, you not even strapped in for start its just on a tv or computer with scenery whizzing by.
so pushing or tapping a button to shoot in a video game is not the same, sure the blood splatter may get on your screen BUT you dont have to wipe it up and take away the dead bodies.
 

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again just want to give some scripture - Gods wisdom not mine

Proverbs 22:3 The prudent man forsees evil and hides himself, the simple pass on and are punished
 

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this is a huge point- the refusal to acknowledge the evil side of the spirt world that is behind a lot of what is wrong with the world today.
Bingo. Biden and Trump et al are just the puppets of that spirit
 

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again just want to give some scripture - Gods wisdom not mine

Proverbs 22:3 The prudent man forsees evil and hides himself, the simple pass on and are punished
So a prudent man hides and doesn't take action against that evil?
 

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as for the school, on a good day maybe they would have security measures in place but it could be one of those days where it wasnt, as can happen in a busy school, teachers off sick, principal on leave, not enough cover etc
According to current news reports a teacher knew there were shots being fired outside the school, allegedly ran to call 911, and left the front door propped open WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS ACTUALLY IN LOCKDOWN at that time. Also the police did nothing for over an hour, and it is only because the border patrol officers refused to be held back by the police that the shooting stopped! So you can see that mistake, after mistake, after mistake was made in this whole horrible incident.

But here is more information about people knowing in advance that a lunatic would be going on a shooting spree and doing nothing. Below are comments about the Buffalo shooting, but the Uvalde shooter posted his plans on social media also, and no one did anything:

"There are many commonalities with regard to mass shootings in America. The shooter was known to authorities for past antics. The shooter exhibited signs of mental illness. And the authorities either dropped the ball keeping tabs on the suspected person or didn’t enforce the laws that would have prevented them from obtaining firearms.

"The preventability aspect has become known with the recent Buffalo mass shooting where avowed white supremacist Payton Gendron shot and killed 10 people at Tops Friendly Market in Buffalo. Gendron picked the location due to its high proportion of black residents. The kid threatened to shoot up his school last year. He was brought in for a mental health evaluation but was cleared. Now, a new development in the investigation shows that Gendron told six people about his plan to commit a mass shooting some thirty minutes before the crime. One of the people in the group is a retired federal agent. NO ONE said anything."
-- Article in Townhall.
 

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According to current news reports a teacher knew there were shots being fired outside the school, allegedly ran to call 911, and left the front door propped open WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS ACTUALLY IN LOCKDOWN at that time.
I don't believe that. When we did these drills if you were outside you couldn't get back into the building until after the drill was over. If they were in lockdown how did she get in? They may claim they went into lockdown but how did the shooter get in? How did the shooter enter the classroom? When you do the drill every teacher locks their door, turns off the lights and covers the windows. I believe the confusion is because they should have gone into lockdown and didn't until it was too late.

This is simply CYA, the door was open for the teacher because they hadn't gone into lockdown.

Also there are people who are responsible to make sure every door into the building is securely locked once they go into the drill. So if they went into the drill after the teacher came in the door should have been locked within 3 minutes.

We are not getting the real story. I think two things are factual, they had a big awards ceremony prior to this and it was lunch time. These two things tell me the timing was very inconvenient for the principal.
 

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One other thing I would point out, I was in NYC and I know how we practiced the drills, but what about Texas? In NYC guns are illegal, it would be very difficult for a kid to bring a gun to a school. Sure, you might get some gang members in a shootout outside some school, but they have no interest in going into a school. Gang members are like jackals and the NYC police are the pride of lions. They understand the hierarchy.

I was tempted to think that Texas didn't take it as seriously as us because they are in a rural town. But there were two kids who were planning to shoot up this school a couple years earlier and they are near the border that is being overrun with drug smugglers, human traffickers and various cartel members. Not only so but I heard the testimony of a fourth grader telling all the things she did because as she put it, they had been doing these drills since kindergarten. So no excuses.

No, they were doing the drills just like we did, they were taking it just as seriously as we did. They are still not telling you the truth.

One thing stands out, if there were a shooter outside my school I wouldn't call 911 I would call the principal. This teacher ran into the principals office and she called 911. That tells me that the office staff and principal are not there.
 

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There's nothing in the constitution that states the government or police by extension are obligated to protect people or property. So the police don't have to put themselves in harms way for any reason and it's entirely up to them whether they are willing to try and save anyone's life including children.

It also means that nobody in government is obligated to make any effort to stop someone who is mentally unstable from purchasing firearms and using them on others.

Government as it exist now is mainly set up to make those in power more wealthy and powerful at the expense of hardworking taxpayers, so trying to make sense of what happened won't really change anything. The only thing that is likely to change from something like this is a reduction in all of our freedoms and a rise of senseless murders.

Which is all the more reason why we need total freedom to arm ourselves as we see fit. Otherwise who's going to protect us, our property and our children?
 
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I can see that the cries for more restrictive legislation on guns is booming, but apart from not letting young people, felons and mental cases purchase guns I can’t see any reason why law abiding citizens should not be allowed to own or carry guns.
 

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After Columbine the school systems across the country responded, making bullying a major issue to address. After Sandy Hook we responded again, putting in place the best protocols around to respond to something like this.

What I want to know and will definitely lift my voice to cry until this is dealt with is why this school, which had practiced these protocols in drills for the last 5 years didn't do it when it counted?
 

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After Columbine the school systems across the country responded, making bullying a major issue to address. After Sandy Hook we responded again, putting in place the best protocols around to respond to something like this.

What I want to know and will definitely lift my voice to cry until this is dealt with is why this school, which had practiced these protocols in drills for the last 5 years didn't do it when it counted?
 

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Fourteen children and one teacher have been killed in an elementary school in Texas. There are children in hospital, condition unknown at this point. What has happened to America. Beyond heartbreaking, how horrific for the families.
With all the shootings that are going on it seems as if it is a set up to have the motive to ban guns in America but I cannot say for sure.

I think they want to ban guns for they are going to go to a new form of government and they have to disarm the people first so there is least resistance.

America is going to a new form of government that will mimic the one world government to come which will be a balance between democracy and communism.

The new age movement will eventually be the balance between atheism and spirituality as they believe they are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike.

The nations are working together more than people realize but they do not want the world to know that and it seems as if they are going to a one world government now.

I believe Russia and America are actually working together and democrat and republican are actually working together.

That is why they took prayer out of school for they are going by the new age movement now as the interpretation of all religions and they want to implement that in the world.

The new age movement gave them a new reality and they want to implement that in the world as the truth.

It was great to live in America years ago but not so much anymore for the future for they are going to cause the collapse of America on purpose.

The occult believes in the mystical Phoenix bird that after 200 or so years is consumed in fire and out of it's ashes arises a new Phoenix bird.

It could be that they will collapse America on purpose so out of it's ashes arises the new world order and it might be done by nuclear weapons.

America would not be the super power anymore which will please many nations and could be a motivating factor for the nations to come together and the possibility that another nuclear war could happen could scare them to come together.

The American government does not care about its people but it is looking at the world now which they want them to come together and be persuaded by the new age movement.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

But it had to happen eventually that the world rebels against God which then God can end sin on earth.

God will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him so He is allowing all people that do not love Him to follow the antichrist then He will end sin on earth.
 

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rime-users-reported-account-nothing-happened/

SICK: Uvalde Killer Salvador Ramos Threatened Rape and Mass School Shootings on French Social Media App Weeks Before Heinous Crime – USERS REPORTED HIS ACCOUNT BUT NOTHING HAPPENED

Yep, it's not like he was asking questions about the V, or about the election. You can be sure they would have acted immediately if he had done that.
 

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I knew it, this is what really happened.

Reports: “We’re Numb to It”: Twice a Week School Lockdowns in Uvalde Became Routine as Biden’s Open Borders Turned Texas Town into ‘Wild Wild West’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...pen-borders-turned-texas-town-wild-wild-west/

Teachers hate this drill. They are locked out of the school. Supposed you need to get lunch, or get something from your car. The problem wasn't that they didn't drill or didn't know what to do, the problem was they had become numb to all these drills and were ignoring them. Probably why it has been so hard to get to the truth, they can't handle the truth.

What caused this? Biden's border crisis and Biden's lockdown of the schools.

Well guess what, there are a whole lot of border towns and a whole lot of kids that have spent the last two years in their room on the internet.
 

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I knew it, this is what really happened.

Reports: “We’re Numb to It”: Twice a Week School Lockdowns in Uvalde Became Routine as Biden’s Open Borders Turned Texas Town into ‘Wild Wild West’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...pen-borders-turned-texas-town-wild-wild-west/

Teachers hate this drill. They are locked out of the school. Supposed you need to get lunch, or get something from your car. The problem wasn't that they didn't drill or didn't know what to do, the problem was they had become numb to all these drills and were ignoring them. Probably why it has been so hard to get to the truth, they can't handle the truth.

What caused this? Biden's border crisis and Biden's lockdown of the schools.

Well guess what, there are a whole lot of border towns and a whole lot of kids that have spent the last two years in their room on the internet.
This is stunning. This teacher will be sued and probably face criminal charges.
 

ZNP

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This is stunning. This teacher will be sued and probably face criminal charges.
This teacher, these kids, in reality are just victims of Biden's feckless administration.