Uvalde, TX School Shooting

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ZNP

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But they still get your money, so they don't really care. If every parent pulled their kids from school, the administrators would be happy as clams.
Not true, schools are paid based on attendance. Pull one kid from school and that school loses $14,000 that year and $84,000 over 6 years of elementary school.

Because of the teachers unions the school will not be able to get rid of tenured teachers. So if 1/3 of the students leave, they lose 1/3 of their payroll but will only be able to get rid of the newest teachers who get paid half of what the experienced teachers get paid. So it would be catastrophic to the school.

Also, these are "school systems" so they can absorb one school losing students, but if 1/3 of elementary school kids throughout the city were to be pulled they would have a significant number of elementary school teachers they couldn't fire, on the payroll, but who they had no jobs for.

Finally, if a third of the kids are pulled then you will have a very large portion of the population motivated to demand the money paid for kids education follow the kid (some states already do this). Imagine 10 elementary school kids begin homeschooling using the local church building. You have parents, Pastors and church staff working together but now you also have $140,000 coming to this homeschool. You could hire 6 retired members and teachers at $19,000 a year (the maximum you can make and still collect your retirement benefits). They could each work part time. You could also spend about $20,000 to the church to help support the staff.

Parents buy food but the people you hire could prepare breakfast and lunch. You can get books from the local library.
 

ZNP

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This is awesome! Is the commander in chief of the US armed forces saying that the US is about to become Switzerland? Is he really going to tell the Navy, Army, Marines and Air Force they can't have guns that fire a bunch of rounds or that are high caliber! Is he announcing that we are going to beat our guns into plough shares?

I know some think he is talking about American citizens but that doesn't make sense, he has no authority to contradict the US constitution. His authority on this matter is really with the US Military and also the FBI.

And he references his past sponsorship with the Crime bill in locking up blacks and filling the prisons with minorities! Wow, I appreciate his honesty in owning up to that catastrophe.

But wow, we will have the most woke military and the kindest, softest military if he takes away their guns. Imagine announcing this on Memorial day of all days. When he said he would restore the US relationship with China and Russia I had no idea this is what he meant.


This is the difference between Biden and Trump. Trump would say all kinds of things at 3am that would trigger the whole world. Biden says them at 3pm.
 

shittim

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saw this and look forward to researching it more-
Curious if this is all true
More oddities re: TX School Shooter, for your pondering a
18 year old transvestite ILLEGAL who lived with his grandma. Part time job at McDonald's (8 hours a week), minimum wage. He dressed up in girl's clothes — and had a very expensive female wardrobe. Dropped out of school because he was obsessed with video games.
Had a Brand new $expensive game console. A $brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.” $Weapons: 2 Brand new Daniel Defense (brand) AR15/M4 rifles, with Military grade Optics. Each rifle is between 3,000 and 4,000 dollars. $Thousands of rounds of Military grade ammunition. A $thousand dollar bullet proof vest. All from a part time job at McDonald's...?!
Ford F250 Platinum $71,000.00
Clothes $3000,00
Game Console $500.00
Rifles $6000.00/$8,000.00
Optics $1000.00
Ammo $900.00
Body Armor $1000.00
TOTAL - $83,400.00
On Minimum Wage ??!!
Seems to me SOMEONE WAS FUNDING HIM and training him as well...
And oh - he just happens to have known the Buffalo shooter? Seriously?!
And add to the fact that those rifles were EXACTLY like one of the rifles from the Las Vegas "shooter". EXACTLY, down to the optics, AND the vertical fore-grip. And that particular configuration is (legally) only available to "Military and Law Enforcement" ...
And just before the NRA Convention, how timely...
Copied and pasted We must be wise to the agenda of those who will stop at nothing to disarm Americans. The fallen who we remember today, didn’t lay down their lives for us to surrender the republic.
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ZNP

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saw this and look forward to researching it more-
Curious if this is all true
More oddities re: TX School Shooter, for your pondering a
18 year old transvestite ILLEGAL who lived with his grandma. Part time job at McDonald's (8 hours a week), minimum wage. He dressed up in girl's clothes — and had a very expensive female wardrobe. Dropped out of school because he was obsessed with video games.
Had a Brand new $expensive game console. A $brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.” $Weapons: 2 Brand new Daniel Defense (brand) AR15/M4 rifles, with Military grade Optics. Each rifle is between 3,000 and 4,000 dollars. $Thousands of rounds of Military grade ammunition. A $thousand dollar bullet proof vest. All from a part time job at McDonald's...?!
Ford F250 Platinum $71,000.00
Clothes $3000,00
Game Console $500.00
Rifles $6000.00/$8,000.00
Optics $1000.00
Ammo $900.00
Body Armor $1000.00
TOTAL - $83,400.00
On Minimum Wage ??!!
Seems to me SOMEONE WAS FUNDING HIM and training him as well...
And oh - he just happens to have known the Buffalo shooter? Seriously?!
And add to the fact that those rifles were EXACTLY like one of the rifles from the Las Vegas "shooter". EXACTLY, down to the optics, AND the vertical fore-grip. And that particular configuration is (legally) only available to "Military and Law Enforcement" ...
And just before the NRA Convention, how timely...
Copied and pasted We must be wise to the agenda of those who will stop at nothing to disarm Americans. The fallen who we remember today, didn’t lay down their lives for us to surrender the republic.
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Very impressive that a 18 year old making something like $80 a week take home able to save up $83,000 over a little more than 1,000 weeks. We like to think these kids today are lazy but not this kid -- for 20 years week after week he is putting away his entire paycheck. The real crime here is Mcdonald's which apparently had hired this kid about 2 years before he was born.

Something is rotten here, Biden is on this, realizing someone is out to kill our kids he suggests taking the guns away from the parents.
 

shittim

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The ccp installed senile buffoon is doing what his handlers are commanding.
 

mailmandan

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saw this and look forward to researching it more-
Curious if this is all true
More oddities re: TX School Shooter, for your pondering a
18 year old transvestite ILLEGAL who lived with his grandma. Part time job at McDonald's (8 hours a week), minimum wage. He dressed up in girl's clothes — and had a very expensive female wardrobe. Dropped out of school because he was obsessed with video games.
Had a Brand new $expensive game console. A $brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.” $Weapons: 2 Brand new Daniel Defense (brand) AR15/M4 rifles, with Military grade Optics. Each rifle is between 3,000 and 4,000 dollars. $Thousands of rounds of Military grade ammunition. A $thousand dollar bullet proof vest. All from a part time job at McDonald's...?!
Ford F250 Platinum $71,000.00
Clothes $3000,00
Game Console $500.00
Rifles $6000.00/$8,000.00
Optics $1000.00
Ammo $900.00
Body Armor $1000.00
TOTAL - $83,400.00
On Minimum Wage ??!!
Seems to me SOMEONE WAS FUNDING HIM and training him as well...
And oh - he just happens to have known the Buffalo shooter? Seriously?!
And add to the fact that those rifles were EXACTLY like one of the rifles from the Las Vegas "shooter". EXACTLY, down to the optics, AND the vertical fore-grip. And that particular configuration is (legally) only available to "Military and Law Enforcement" ...
And just before the NRA Convention, how timely...
Copied and pasted We must be wise to the agenda of those who will stop at nothing to disarm Americans. The fallen who we remember today, didn’t lay down their lives for us to surrender the republic.
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I did not hear about those specific details about the shooter on MSM. Transvestite ILLEGAL? o_O Guess it doesn't fit the narrative. If he had been a white supremacist the left would have been foaming at the mouth to share those details.

One day after the mass shooting in Texas this happened and I barely heard about it from MSM.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/west-virginia-woman-shoots-kills-man-fired-party
 

shittim

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something to follow and see how much of it pans out
 
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Guns, as with all physical material, are neither good nor evil. To think otherwise...isn't that what gnostics believe?
A lot of Christians actually believe that certain physical objects can be evil because the Devil dwells in them. Sex objects, dolls, Catholic stuff, etc.
 

shittim

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a lot of people who think they are Christian aren't really Christian.
 

ZNP

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A lot of Christians actually believe that certain physical objects can be evil because the Devil dwells in them. Sex objects, dolls, Catholic stuff, etc.
I think you are confusing pantheists with Christians. A christian is one who believes that Jesus is Lord of all, and that all things came into being through Him.
 
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joecoten

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A lot of Christians actually believe that certain physical objects can be evil because the Devil dwells in them. Sex objects, dolls, Catholic stuff, etc.
I do believe that occultic objects can carry curses. I believe Derek Prince taught this and since I've received so much through his ministry, I accept it.
 

ZNP

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I do believe that occultic objects can carry curses. I believe Derek Prince taught this and since I've received so much through his ministry, I accept it.
My faith is based on the word of God. Did Paul, Peter or John teach this?
 

ZNP

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Prince was one of the best bible teachers I've ever come across!
That does not answer my question. If he taught the Bible as you say then surely he showed you the verses in the Bible that you base your pantheistic view on.
 

shittim

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Joe-

What a testimony he had! Right now Curry Blake at jglm.org has taught me the most in walking in His power.
 
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That does not answer my question. If he taught the Bible as you say then surely he showed you the verses in the Bible that you base your pantheistic view on.
I only go by what the word appears to say combined with how powerfully the Holy Spirit moved with me. This happened as I applied the teaching presented to me while I was at a weeklong retreat. You do know that there comes a point where the intellect becomes a detriment. Keep your insults to yourself, okay buddy? Respect lost!
 

mailmandan

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a lot of people who think they are Christian aren't really Christian.
There are genuine Christians and there are "nominal" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers.
 

ZNP

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I only go by what the word appears to say combined with how powerfully the Holy Spirit moved with me. This happened as I applied the teaching presented to me while I was at a weeklong retreat. You do know that there comes a point where the intellect becomes a detriment.
1Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Keep your insults to yourself, okay buddy? Respect lost!
You think that referring to your post about inanimate objects being possessed and cursed by demons as pantheism is an insult? OK, sorry about that, I'll call it what it is, witchcraft.
 
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joecoten

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1Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

You think that referring to your post about inanimate objects being possessed and cursed by demons as pantheism is an insult? OK, sorry about that, I'll call it what it is, witchcraft.
There is no man as blind as the blind man who believes he sees. And yet you believe in Niburu. We discussed this, and when I realized you were not going to change your mind, I left it. I didn't call you a moron for believing it. I know that you are aware that thinking curses can be attached to inanimate objects is a fairly common view in the church. You're like most Christians...you have to insult those you disagree with. SMH It's probably best that we don't talk anymore. Nibiru...from what I recall, this teaching comes from beings that are obviously related to fallen angels.
 

shittim

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An apology would be in order here, ZNP.:unsure:(y):)