Uvalde, TX School Shooting

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ZNP

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There is no man as blind as the blind man who believes he sees. And yet you believe in Niburu. We discussed this, and when I realized you were not going to change your mind, I left it. I didn't call you a moron for believing it. I know that you are aware that thinking curses can be attached to inanimate objects is a fairly common view in the church. You're like most Christians...you have to insult those you disagree with. SMH It's probably best that we don't talk anymore. Nibiru...from what I recall, this teaching comes from beings that are obviously related to fallen angels.
Nibiru -- I don't use that term though others might. I refer to "planet X" because we have known for 100 years that the orbits of the planets in our solar system are evidence that there are other objects with significant gravitational force that are not being accounted for.

There are also historical accounts that describe very catastrophic events on earth that are also described in the Bible like Noah's flood and the destruction of Egypt at the time of Noah.

It is very difficult to explain the two times that the Sun either "stopped" or moved back on the sun dial in any other way other than the near pass to the earth of a massive object.

It is also very hard to explain why the Vatican would buy up a very expensive telescope and observatory designed specifically to see a brown dwarf star.

It is also very hard to explain why many nations including the US, Russia and European nations have been building massive underground bases.

Nor is it easy to explain the incredible increase in billionaires buying luxury underground bunkers.

Every time someone wants to say that "Planet X" is an explanation from morons I have asked for their explanation of all these observable and indisputable facts. After all why would the US move a secure bioweapons lab on Plum Island to Kansas?

The response has been crickets. No explanation. Zilch. That is why you don't hear anyone trying to back up their insults and ridicule of this.
 

ZNP

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An apology would be in order here, ZNP.:unsure:(y):)
To anyone offended by my use of the term witchcraft in Post #298 I hope this explains the context of that comment.

Post #291 Joecoten said he believes “that occultic objects can carry curses.”

By definition that is witchcraft. I’m not saying he is practicing witchcraft, I’m saying he believes in the power of witchcraft. Sorry if there was any confusion on that point.

In Post #292 I asked for a Biblical reference from the NT. We have references on sorcery, witchcraft and idols. I was hoping for a clearer understanding of what he was saying.

In Post #293 he responds to my question of whether or not the Bible taught this with “Prince was one of the best bible teachers I’ve ever come across!”

I understood that to mean that his faith "in occultic objects carrying curses" is based on this man’s teaching and not on the Bible.

In Post #294 I pointed out that this answer does not answer the question of where it come from in the Bible. I also pointed out that the concept of objects carrying curses, hence “possessed” by demons or spirits is pantheistic.

He responded in Post #296.

Again, no Biblical reference only the response that “there comes a point where the intellect becomes a detriment”.

He also took offense at the use of the word pantheistic.

So I responded in Post #298

Believing that objects can hold curses is a doctrines of demons. You can call it pantheism, you can call it hinduism, new age spiritualism, or witchcraft. But the bottom line is it is a doctrine about demons having power on this earth.
 

ZNP

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As a Pentecostal, Prince believed in the reality of spiritual forces operating in the world, and of the power of demons to cause illness and psychological problems. While in Seattle, he was asked to perform an exorcism on a woman, and he came to believe that Christians could be "demonized"[10] (normally described as "possessed" by demons - Prince avoided this term which implies 'ownership').[11][12] This was at odds with the more usual Pentecostal view that demons could "possess" unbelievers, but could only "oppress" Christians. Prince believed that his deliverance ministry used the power of God to defeat demons.[13]

There are NT verses that you could use to address this topic. The NT clearly describes this topic, so it is not unreasonable to ask for a few Bible verses to get a clearer idea of what joecoten is referring to. If he is unable to do that then Acts 19:11-20 is probably the best reference.
 

shittim

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Anyway Joe, great to see you back and hope to hear from you more.
blessings,
 

ZNP

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Reacting to Texas school shooting, MSNBC guest claims GOP sacrifices children to ‘the god of gun ownership’

https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-school-shooting-msnbc-claims-gop-sacrifices-children-gun

It seems that whatever they do they are projecting. When they say you are a racist, it seems they are the ones who are racists. When they say that you are not respecting the science, they are the ones who are not respecting the science.

So then is this also projection? Is there any evidence that this school shooting was a sacrifice to their God?

1. Granted there are some really hard questions to answer about where this kid got the money and guns and ammo from.

2. It is also quite reasonable to conclude he was caught up into the occult. We may not have proof yet, but based on what we do know that is not unreasonable.

3. We also know this was not a crime of convenience, he said prior to going there that he was going to kill kids in an elementary school. So it was certainly part of the plan.

4. Sure it was very strange that a door seemed to be sabotaged so that it wouldn't lock and that just happened to be the door that he went in.

5. And sure, 48 lockdowns prior to this probably set the stage for the teachers and school to not respond as quickly and efficiently as they are supposed to. Since the kid couldn't have had anything to do with that the conspiracy theorists will take that as evidence that others were behind this to set the stage.

6. It is unfortunate that MSNBC, the news station known for projecting everything they are doing on others to claim this was a "sacrifice to their gods".

7. But why would anyone sacrifice kids to their God?

The principal pillars of Baalism were child sacrifice, sexual immorality (both heterosexual and homosexual) and pantheism (reverence of creation over the Creator). Adults would gather around the altar of Baal. Infants would then be burned alive as a sacrificial offering to the deity. Amid horrific screams and the stench of charred human flesh, congregants – men and women alike – would engage in bisexual orgies. The ritual of convenience was intended to produce economic prosperity by prompting Baal to bring rain for the fertility of “mother earth.”

Worshipping Baal meant sacrificing human life, never your own, just the innocent newly born, so you might have prosperity here on earth.

Now that “medical professionals have perfected killing the unborn and partly born, there is a new way to prosperity and convenience.

https://aocinternational.org/child-sacrifice-and-baal-moloch/
 

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Q. What's the difference between conspiracy theory and fact?
A. About 6 months.
Careful...your ignorance is showing.
When you repeat something often enough it starts to sound like the truth ... but it still isn't.

Careful ... your confirmation bias is showing
 
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joecoten

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When you repeat something often enough it starts to sound like the truth ... but it still isn't.

Careful ... your confirmation bias is showing
There is no one as blind as the blind man who believes he sees.
"I've never experienced it, therefore it's not real!" Right? Right!
I'd tell you a few things, but I've heard enough about drugs, demons, and dementia.
You are free to believe whatever you want...just like me!
 
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joecoten

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"4 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." - Ephesians 4:1-6
 

JTB

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There is no one as blind as the blind man who believes he sees.
"I've never experienced it, therefore it's not real!" Right? Right!
I'd tell you a few things, but I've heard enough about drugs, demons, and dementia.
You are free to believe whatever you want...just like me!

And there is no one so deceived as he who thinks the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
 

PennEd

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From a Facebook poster:

More oddities re: TX School Shooter, for your pondering a
18 year old transvestite ILLEGAL who lived with his grandma. Part time job at McDonald's (8 hours a week), minimum wage. He dressed up in girl's clothes — and had a very expensive female wardrobe. Dropped out of school because he was obsessed with video games.
Had a Brand new $expensive game console. A $brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.” $Weapons: 2 Brand new Daniel Defense (brand) AR15/M4 rifles, with Military grade Optics. Each rifle is between 3,000 and 4,000 dollars. $Thousands of rounds of Military grade ammunition. A $thousand dollar bullet proof vest. All from a part time job at McDonald's...?!
Ford F250 Platinum $71,000.00
Clothes $3000,00
Game Console $500.00
Rifles $6000.00/$8,000.00
Optics $1000.00
Ammo $900.00
Body Armor $1000.00
TOTAL - $83,400.00
On Minimum Wage ??!!
Seems to me SOMEONE WAS FUNDING HIM and training him as well...
And oh - he just happens to have known the Buffalo shooter? Seriously?!
And add to the fact that those rifles were EXACTLY like one of the rifles from the Las Vegas "shooter". EXACTLY, down to the optics, AND the vertical fore-grip. And that particular configuration is (legally) only available to "Military and Law Enforcement" ...
And just before the NRA Convention, how timely...
Copied and pasted
 

GaryA

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Would you PLEASE stop posting articles from the New York Times ?!?!?

Instead, could you find an article about the same story from another news outlet that will actually let you read the story without having a personal account with them - and post a link to that?

If you can do that - then - like Elvis always used to say:

"Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!"

;)
 

ZNP

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Biden wants to outlaw ghosts having guns, that doesn't go far enough, I want to outlaw ghosts voting in presidential elections.
 
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kaylagrl

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Would you PLEASE stop posting articles from the New York Times ?!?!?

Instead, could you find an article about the same story from another news outlet that will actually let you read the story without having a personal account with them - and post a link to that?

If you can do that - then - like Elvis always used to say:

"Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!"

;)
Ugh! I forgot. But it lets me read it and I don't have an account. I don't understand that.
 
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kaylagrl

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Biden wants to outlaw ghosts having guns, that doesn't go far enough, I want to outlaw ghosts voting in presidential elections.

Here's the deal I'd make with the left. You can have more gun control if we can have more abortion control. Then we'll both be saving lives (like you pretend to care about) It was what, last week, when a half dressed protester was ripping up a doll saying "I'm killing the babies". Don't tell me they care about the children, it's all about power and taking the guns any way possible.
 

ZNP

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Here's the deal I'd make with the left. You can have more gun control if we can have more abortion control. Then we'll both be saving lives (like you pretend to care about) It was what, last week, when a half dressed protester was ripping up a doll saying "I'm killing the babies". Don't tell me they care about the children, it's all about power and taking the guns any way possible.
It seems to me that both Democrats and Republicans can agree that ghosts should not have guns. I also don't know anyone who has a salt rifle, I've never heard of such a thing, seems it wouldn't hold up very well in the rain.
 

shittim

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And there is no one so deceived as he who thinks the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
that is a saying with an islamic/Arabian origin if I recall correctly.
 
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And there is no one so deceived as he who thinks the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. - Matthew 24:24
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. - 2 Timothy 3:5
Oh, I see. Well, you have a nice day! Shalom.
 

iamsoandso

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From a Facebook poster:

More oddities re: TX School Shooter, for your pondering a
18 year old transvestite ILLEGAL who lived with his grandma. Part time job at McDonald's (8 hours a week), minimum wage. He dressed up in girl's clothes — and had a very expensive female wardrobe. Dropped out of school because he was obsessed with video games.
Had a Brand new $expensive game console. A $brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.” $Weapons: 2 Brand new Daniel Defense (brand) AR15/M4 rifles, with Military grade Optics. Each rifle is between 3,000 and 4,000 dollars. $Thousands of rounds of Military grade ammunition. A $thousand dollar bullet proof vest. All from a part time job at McDonald's...?!
Ford F250 Platinum $71,000.00
Clothes $3000,00
Game Console $500.00
Rifles $6000.00/$8,000.00
Optics $1000.00
Ammo $900.00
Body Armor $1000.00
TOTAL - $83,400.00
On Minimum Wage ??!!
Seems to me SOMEONE WAS FUNDING HIM and training him as well...
And oh - he just happens to have known the Buffalo shooter? Seriously?!
And add to the fact that those rifles were EXACTLY like one of the rifles from the Las Vegas "shooter". EXACTLY, down to the optics, AND the vertical fore-grip. And that particular configuration is (legally) only available to "Military and Law Enforcement" ...
And just before the NRA Convention, how timely...
Copied and pasted

I'll give you credit though because you put the "copied and pasted" quote at the end... A better story though, and would have an even far more convincing result would be the convict that escaped and held out in Centerville Texas for three weeks,,,he killed an elderly couple from Houston and three children who went to their weekend house a day or so ago. They caught up with him a few hours ago and he was killed in a gunfight with the police. That story in it's self would convince most that the average person should have and needs the right to be able to defend themselves...