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Yes it is a wonderful world, yet it isn't the way Jesus modeled for us to live.
How many do you know who only do what the Father do, and only say what they hear the Father say?:)
The song is nice and when Jesus returns it really will be a wonderful world and from your job you got to see the some of the bad sside of now I guess.
 

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It was good to see how important it is to seek and walk in righteousness.
Life is a choice.
blessings to you my friend.:):coffee:
 

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BREAKING: 30 NATION ALLIANCE KICKES OF NUCLEAR DRILL
 

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There is a very interesting factor right now and that is that China is betting their entire currency on the US dollar falling. If you remember prior to 9/11 there were a large number of puts placed on the companies that were directly involved in that attack making someone a whole lot of money. If China knows there is going to be an attack on the US destroying our currency then they would profit greatly from that swing.
 

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There is a very interesting factor right now and that is that China is betting their entire currency on the US dollar falling. If you remember prior to 9/11 there were a large number of puts placed on the companies that were directly involved in that attack making someone a whole lot of money. If China knows there is going to be an attack on the US destroying our currency then they would profit greatly from that swing.
The financial crisis in 2008 was that China saved the American economy with its own inflation. You are not entitled to say that China took advantage of the American economy
 

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The financial crisis in 2008 was that China saved the American economy with its own inflation. You are not entitled to say that China took advantage of the American economy
I have no idea what you are trying to say.

911 was in 2001 and I am not saying that China was the one that bought the puts.

What I am saying is that what China is doing right now is either a crazy bet that will destroy their economy and all the speculators are gambling that will happen, or else China knows something that everyone else doesn't know, which is that the US dollar is about to collapse and they want to make money on that.

China is driving the price of the US dollar up while at the same time driving the value of the Yuan down. However, what they are doing is causing significant financial instability to many other countries like Japan and the UK as their currencies are also getting crushed.
 

shittim

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I saw this from Jeremiah about war and wanted to share-

This is a standard Biblical principle and explained in Jer 18:7-10: "7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it."
So I do not believe Nuclear War is unavoidable. It depends on how much repentance is done.
 

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I saw this from Jeremiah about war and wanted to share-

This is a standard Biblical principle and explained in Jer 18:7-10: "7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it."
So I do not believe Nuclear War is unavoidable. It depends on how much repentance is done.
911 was when God announced that the US was to uprooted, torn down and destroyed. Did we repent? No, they hid the evidence, they passed the Patriot act, they went to war with innocent countries, and they declared that they would "build back better".
 

shittim

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That was the warning, and it appears there was insufficient repentance, and yet, out of His never ending mercy there is a remnant and we know He ALWAYS works through a remnant as it is never a majority who will honor their Creator and Savior.
 

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That was the warning, and it appears there was insufficient repentance, and yet, out of His never ending mercy there is a remnant and we know He ALWAYS works through a remnant as it is never a majority who will honor their Creator and Savior.
19 years later we had the pandemic. 19 is the period of time God gives you to repent or else the judgement will come.
 

shittim

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That's the way I understand it, yet He has promised to protect His own, and we know He keeps His promises.
 

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RED ALERT: MARTI%L LAW DECLARED - RED & YELLOW ALERT IN RUSS%A

Russia declares a state of siege in their recently annexed territory.
 

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I used to believe "End shall come as a flood" indicated a fast, huge inundating wave, now I believe it may indicate the slow rising all covering and affecting events.:unsure:
 

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I used to believe "End shall come as a flood" indicated a fast, huge inundating wave, now I believe it may indicate the slow rising all covering and affecting events.:unsure:
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

So the picture is of a woman who is 9 months pregnant. For months she has struggled as the baby has grown bigger and bigger, kicking and moving about. She has trouble sleeping, she has problems with her bladder, she has trouble with her clothes. My point is we take this "they say peace and security and then sudden destruction" as though they are clueless that they are 9 months pregnant and about to have a baby. That is not what Paul is saying. He is saying this event has been growing day by day, you see the signs, you know the day is approaching and still everything seems fine, you are in bed trying to sleep when wham, here comes the baby!

This is what we are seeing today. We can see all the signs, all the drumbeats of war, the drumbeats of imminent famine, economic collapse and additional pandemics. But at the same time even though things are a little uncomfortable with inflation and it is hard to sleep with all the MSM and their race baiting and fear mongering, still we are going about our business as usual at the moment. But in a moment that will change.
 
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I respect my elders. Respectively speaking, their wont be any nuclear war. Read zechariah chapter 14 for documentation. Satan is coming near future in his role as antichrist at the 6th trump. Documentation, second thessalonians chapter 2. It will be false world peace. Antichrist will take over one world religious system. It's 5 month period, documentation, revelation 9:5. God controls human events. Example, hurricane ian was no accident. God controls the weather. In genesis, God hardened pharaoh heart. God delivered Israel and Moses from Bondage. Romans 9:18. Therefore hath He mercy on Whom He will have mercy, and whom He will HARDENETH . Acts 19:11. And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul. TUNVHANO in Greek means = to happen. DUNAMIS in Greek means = miracles. God performed the miracles, Paul is only instrument that God uses. Can a instrument play all by it self. I've never seen it happen !!. Romans 9:21. Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another to dishonor? Who is mortal man/woman to argue or question Gods authority?. Hurricane ian devastated Puerto rico, Florida and south Carolina. Why?? Because they turned their backs on God and refuse to confess sins to God. GOD CAN BE YOUR JUDGE OR YOUR PROTECTION. Get the picture. 9:22. What if God, willing to show His wrath, and to make His power known, endured with much suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: Greek word TO DUNATON means = Power. And the Greek word APOLLUMI means = lost. Let's understand this. Sinners who refuse to repent and love God are headed for hell. Its written in Peter, that God is long suffering that they might come to repentance. Some of these clay vessels are headed for destruction. God is in control. And God is sending satan to earth 6th trump to test people. Jesus wants to know who did their homework??. Some people are headed for destruction. And those with gospel armour on will escape antichrist lies and deception. Reason this in your mind. Be honest with yourself.
 

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19 years later we had the pandemic. 19 is the period of time God gives you to repent or else the judgement will come.
Nah.... These respiratory pandemics pop up once every decade or so.
That's just the nature of human biology
 

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Nah.... These respiratory pandemics pop up once every decade or so.
That's just the nature of human biology
Are you saying that 2020 was not 19 years after 2001? Or are you saying that in 2020 we did not have a worldwide shutdown due to a pandemic? Or are you saying these worldwide shutdowns to the economy take place every ten years and I just missed five of the last six?
 

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Are you saying that 2020 was not 19 years after 2001? Or are you saying that in 2020 we did not have a worldwide shutdown due to a pandemic? Or are you saying these worldwide shutdowns to the economy take place every ten years and I just missed five of the last six?
No I'm saying respiratory pandemics are a naturally occurring thing. It's not because people are sinning or whatever
 

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Those who accept the devils attack of sickness and disease as "natural" have zero grasp of the on going ministry of Jesus Christ to defeat the devil and his works.:):coffee:
 

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Those who accept the devils attack of sickness and disease as "natural" have zero grasp of the on going ministry of Jesus Christ to defeat the devil and his works.:):coffee:
Person does of preventable disease.
.God. "What part of the doctor's instructions did you not understand?"