What is the Lesson from the +4 Trillion in lawsuits and judgements against Alex Jones

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ZNP

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This is a successful blogger responding to these lawsuits.

His takeaways from this are:

1. "They" want to eliminate Alex Jones

2. One purpose of these lawsuits is to send a warning shot to anyone who is a free thinker and does not toe the line of the official narrative.

3. After careful consideration his decision is "I will not comply".

I would add some other lessons

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.


1. Check yourself that what you are saying is true. For example a year ago when I refused to get the vaccine many of my colleagues wanted to know what I knew. All I knew for sure was that I had already had Covid and therefore I had concluded I did not need the vaccine. I suspected many things, but realized you need to focus on what is true.

2. Whatever things are honest is a second criteria. Again, I do not know anyone personally who has been harmed by the vaccine. At least I am not aware of that. I do know several people who died from Covid. The husband of our AP and several members of the church I attended died from Covid. So as much as I may have felt something was wrong about what was going on it was important to be honest. One way people are not fully honest is they leave out key pieces of information.

3. Then you have to also include what things are just. Many people were throwing around accusations that the vaccine was the mark of the beast. That was not just. The Bible is very clear that if you get the mark of the beast you cannot buy or sell and that was not true with the vaccine. Perhaps you couldn't do certain jobs, and perhaps in a few rare cases your bank account was frozen, but for 80+% of Americans this was not true. So it wasn't just to tell people that they had lost their salvation if they had gotten the vaccine.

4. Whatever things are pure. This is really highlighted in the sordid story of the vaccine. It isn't pure to have so called experts telling us that the virus did not come from the Wuhan bioweapons lab because they had a vested interest in protecting that fact. It wasn't pure that Fauci was getting money from various sources while at the same time portraying himself as an unbiased judge.

5. Whatsoever things are lovely. Much of what has happened is truly ugly. What they did to kids was ugly. Censoring people and ridiculing them and attacking them was ugly. Calling those who had legitimate questions about the vaccine as "anti science" or "anti Vax" was ugly, it was not lovely.

6. Whatever things are of good report. Now consider those scientists that wrote a letter published on the Lancet that there was no evidence of the virus coming from the Bioweapons lab. Two years later it is quite clear that is not of good report. When you do something with a hidden motive, hidden agenda you know, even if others don't, that it is not of good report. Consider that whatever you are doing, how will this appear when you stand before the Lord to be judged?

7. There are a few people who came forward despite great personal risk and cost to tell us the truth. That is what it means to me "if there is any virtue and if any praise".
 

Dude653

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It's almost as if it's a bad idea to slander and defame people
 

ZNP

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It's almost as if it's a bad idea to slander and defame people
I never listened to Alex Jones, so it is stunning to me that 550 million people have. I suspect it is more like 1 million people have listened to him 550 times.

The other thing that got me about this is that these "free thinkers" who have decided "they will not comply" seem surprised that the kingdom of darkness would be focused on eliminating them. If you are going to speak for the Lord you should definitely be aware from day 1 that Satan will try to eliminate you.

The other thing that struck me is the entire 2.75 trillion is based on the fact that he has advertisers on his channel. If he did not have advertisers their would have been $0 they could sue based on this algorithm.
 

Dude653

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JP Sears is cringe in my opinion because right wing propaganda isn't funny for the same reason left wing propaganda isn't funny
 
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I think years ago when the censorship hammer, ''political correctness'' was invented, we were put on notice.

Free speech was no longer free.

People were going to have a false sense of a Constitutional right not to be offended.

Gradually, as programs evolved to reeducate our speech, and by proxy our thoughts, we learned if we speak wrongly we can lose things.

Our job,for instance.

Lead people to be afraid to speak and you'll lead them to be afraid to think outside that box that defines legally allowed politically correct speech.

Eventually,following thought and speech reeducation we started to witness the erosion of common sense and morality via federal laws.

Now politically correct speech teaches us that males have menstrual periods. Gender is fluid.
And if we disagree we're afraid of those words attached to those type people we're also afraid of.Phobe.

Now, there are reeducation programs that retrain thought,perspective, speech.
Gender Sensitivity training,as example.

Learn in free easy steps that women have a penis. And men give birth. It's a subjective world.

You are what you think.

Agree!

Or be sent to a training class that promised to change your mind.

There's an old saying. The Spanish inquisition didn't happen overnight.

Alex Jones is the scape goat here.

The real offenders are those who supposedly harassed,assaulted, vandalized the properties, of the parents of the
victims of the Parkland school shooter.

Not a peep of arrests of those supposed vandals and offenders. No suits. No names.

Jones stupidly said Parkland didn't happen. Parents were threat actors.

Not true.
Jones apologized repeatedly. Admitted he was wrong. Spoke before he did the slightest bit of research to find the truth.

I find that odd. That he would go off on a tangent without Mary one fact check.

Google, 5 minutes, and there he'd have it.



I've always though Jones was a tool of the government.

Stir fear,promote absurd conspiracies, get people into that paranoia thought process .
And when real corruption arises, it goes under the cover of conspiracy theory. Or,false flag.

Now, he's playing the martyr role. The sacrifice of free speech to the ultimate smackdown invoking political correctness.

A knucklehead said something stupid.

Now he's got to pay billions because people got their feelings hurt.

They don't care to go after those who believed Jones and threatened the parents,supposedly, for being what he claimed they were. Liars and threat actors.
Those who supposedly really hurt those parents.

The parents don't seek arrest of those who terrorized them and their family. Supposedly.

No, they're being let to win millions of dollars in kangaroo court proceedings that hold Alex Jones responsible for hurting people's feelings.

And that's all.

Because if they wanted to hold accountable those who freely chose to act out against them responsible for terrorizing the families, physical abuse,verbal, supposedly, they'd have court dates in future to meet out justice against those supposed bad actors.
But not a word.


This AJ case sets a precedent against free speech and thought,and accountability for offending people's feelings.

This isn't about slander and defamation. If it were politicians and slant media would be mute.

This is about censorship, and authoritarianism.

Be careful what you say. How you mean what you say doesn't matter. It's how the listener takes what you say.

And if you're rich, they can take everything you have.

Communism begins in such ways.
 

ZNP

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This is about censorship, and authoritarianism.
Yes, and it is about how will we respond to that. I agree with this blogger that "I will not comply" is a good attitude.

However, I think you need to be trained, as Paul trains us in Philippians, and you need to put on the full armor of God.

I don't think there was any virtue or any praise in what Alex Jones did. I also think that is true for most of main stream media.
 

gb9

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Yes, and it is about how will we respond to that. I agree with this blogger that "I will not comply" is a good attitude.

However, I think you need to be trained, as Paul trains us in Philippians, and you need to put on the full armor of God.

I don't think there was any virtue or any praise in what Alex Jones did. I also think that is true for most of main stream media.

so, you think there is a rouge planet in our solar system, and you never looked at any of the anomalies with sandy hook??
 

Dude653

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I think years ago when the censorship hammer, ''political correctness'' was invented, we were put on notice.

Free speech was no longer free.

People were going to have a false sense of a Constitutional right not to be offended.

Gradually, as programs evolved to reeducate our speech, and by proxy our thoughts, we learned if we speak wrongly we can lose things.

Our job,for instance.

Lead people to be afraid to speak and you'll lead them to be afraid to think outside that box that defines legally allowed politically correct speech.

Eventually,following thought and speech reeducation we started to witness the erosion of common sense and morality via federal laws.

Now politically correct speech teaches us that males have menstrual periods. Gender is fluid.
And if we disagree we're afraid of those words attached to those type people we're also afraid of.Phobe.

Now, there are reeducation programs that retrain thought,perspective, speech.
Gender Sensitivity training,as example.

Learn in free easy steps that women have a penis. And men give birth. It's a subjective world.

You are what you think.

Agree!

Or be sent to a training class that promised to change your mind.

There's an old saying. The Spanish inquisition didn't happen overnight.

Alex Jones is the scape goat here.

The real offenders are those who supposedly harassed,assaulted, vandalized the properties, of the parents of the
victims of the Parkland school shooter.

Not a peep of arrests of those supposed vandals and offenders. No suits. No names.

Jones stupidly said Parkland didn't happen. Parents were threat actors.

Not true.
Jones apologized repeatedly. Admitted he was wrong. Spoke before he did the slightest bit of research to find the truth.

I find that odd. That he would go off on a tangent without Mary one fact check.

Google, 5 minutes, and there he'd have it.



I've always though Jones was a tool of the government.

Stir fear,promote absurd conspiracies, get people into that paranoia thought process .
And when real corruption arises, it goes under the cover of conspiracy theory. Or,false flag.

Now, he's playing the martyr role. The sacrifice of free speech to the ultimate smackdown invoking political correctness.

A knucklehead said something stupid.

Now he's got to pay billions because people got their feelings hurt.

They don't care to go after those who believed Jones and threatened the parents,supposedly, for being what he claimed they were. Liars and threat actors.
Those who supposedly really hurt those parents.

The parents don't seek arrest of those who terrorized them and their family. Supposedly.

No, they're being let to win millions of dollars in kangaroo court proceedings that hold Alex Jones responsible for hurting people's feelings.

And that's all.

Because if they wanted to hold accountable those who freely chose to act out against them responsible for terrorizing the families, physical abuse,verbal, supposedly, they'd have court dates in future to meet out justice against those supposed bad actors.
But not a word.


This AJ case sets a precedent against free speech and thought,and accountability for offending people's feelings.

This isn't about slander and defamation. If it were politicians and slant media would be mute.

This is about censorship, and authoritarianism.

Be careful what you say. How you mean what you say doesn't matter. It's how the listener takes what you say.

And if you're rich, they can take everything you have.

Communism begins in such ways.
For the 15 millionth time, you do not have a constitutional right to slander and defame someone
 

ZNP

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so, you think there is a rouge planet in our solar system, and you never looked at any of the anomalies with sandy hook??
I visited Sandy Hook. No, I'm not aware of any of the "anomalies" of Sandy Hook.

I have seen some very serious anomalies in Robb Elementary school.
 

gb9

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I visited Sandy Hook. No, I'm not aware of any of the "anomalies" of Sandy Hook.

I have seen some very serious anomalies in Robb Elementary school.
look into it sometimes, you will see why jones at one point ( he has long ago said that he thinks it was real and really happened) and many up to this day that it never happened.

( i think it was real).
 

ZNP

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look into it sometimes, you will see why jones at one point ( he has long ago said that he thinks it was real and really happened) and many up to this day that it never happened.

( i think it was real).
Of course it was real
 

Dude653

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Sandy Hook only has about 500 people but just try to get 500 people to keep a secret
Also the police department would have to be in on it, the hospital, the local newspapers
That's not something that happens in reality
 

ZNP

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I went to several Stop the Steal rallies and Alex Jones would show up with a bull horn and he had a cult like following. I'm not interested in these type of people, they are like the FreeMason pastors at the Mega churches.
 

Dude653

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look into it sometimes, you will see why jones at one point ( he has long ago said that he thinks it was real and really happened) and many up to this day that it never happened.

( i think it was real).
Then why do you think it was okay for him to say the families lied about the death of their children?
Also freedom of speech means the government can't take you to jail for speech. It doesn't mean you can't be sued for slandering people people.
 

gb9

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Then why do you think it was okay for him to say the families lied about the death of their children?
Also freedom of speech means the government can't take you to jail for speech. It doesn't mean you can't be sued for slandering people people.

i will explain this one more time and no more- alex has been saying that he was wrong and the shooting was real for years.

i know. i am a regular listener and know because i have heard him say it for 5 years now. i have heard callers tell him " you know it was fake, why are you selling us out?"

so, the real sandy hook deniers are mad at him.
 

Dude653

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i will explain this one more time and no more- alex has been saying that he was wrong and the shooting was real for years.

i know. i am a regular listener and know because i have heard him say it for 5 years now. i have heard callers tell him " you know it was fake, why are you selling us out?"

so, the real sandy hook deniers are mad at him.
He said that after the fact after the damage had already been done. One of the families had to move 10 times because the Alex Jones Colt was stalking him and threatening to kill them
 

Dude653

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There's a lady in prison right now because she drove by one of the houses shooting going Alex Jones Infowars
Alex Jones targets a specific audience which is tin foil hat crazies
 

ZNP

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He said that after the fact after the damage had already been done. One of the families had to move 10 times because the Alex Jones Colt was stalking him and threatening to kill them
Psalm 130:4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.

There is no forgiveness with the world, they are like drug lords and gang members. As a result no one fears to lie to them. Why do you think people flip and go into witness protection? There is no forgiveness, no reconciliation. This is why the advice now is to never apologize to the woke crowd. I am no fan of Alex Jones, but I don't think $4 trillion in damages is a fair estimate of what he has done but I don't know, I will trust the Lord on that one. What I do know is the entire world is messed up, the criminal justice system is a complete farce. It looks like Paul Pelosi had a date with a homosexual prostitute go bad and the next day Biden is blaming Trump voters. Pelosi's house is surrounded by cameras, you would think they would check the video tape before they make ugly slanderous allegations like that. Can Trump voters sue? Of course not. How about Jussie Smollett, can anyone with a MAGA hat, shirt or yard sign sue him? Of course not. How about Lebron James and the NBA can the residents of Kenosha sue him for inciting the riots? Of course not.


The Lord Jesus is going to sort all this out, hopefully starting tomorrow.
 

gb9

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There's a lady in prison right now because she drove by one of the houses shooting going Alex Jones Infowars
Alex Jones targets a specific audience which is tin foil hat crazies
there is also a 20 year old young man who has done 45 days in federal prison and lost hos girlfriend and denied a job because he walked into the capital and walked back out, after being waved in by cops on j 6, so there is that.
were the cops held responsible for that?

no.
 

Dude653

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there is also a 20 year old young man who has done 45 days in federal prison and lost hos girlfriend and denied a job because he walked into the capital and walked back out, after being waved in by cops on j 6, so there is that.
were the cops held responsible for that?

no.
Whataboutism