Who is voting for Trump again?

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dcontroversal

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I do not think anyone opposes immigrants that enter legally, it is the illegal ones that are of concern!!
I have no problem with most LEGAL immigrants.....I personally think ALL should be heavily scrutinized and NO ONE should be let in if they have extremist views, prior arrests and convictions, or ties to gangs or cartels....and they should have to apply in their COUNTRY and AFTER approval be issued a a TWO year period to peak English, have a legit job and prove you can make it without financial help from the gov.

AND ALL assistance to ILLEGALS should cease and desist, it should be redirected at AMERICANS that need it especially taking care of the elderly, sick, and children.....after that VOTE on where it gets spent in one lump sum yearly.....with two options one being the deficit and maybe the other a rotating option with maybe 10 options that roll through once a year for 10 years.........

Like first year

Deficit
4 New Children's hospitals
 

calibob

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You seem upset Mr. Bob.
This world is a lot to bear at times it is true.
The only thing that makes me upset is that so many people focus on the here and now like this life is permanent and heaven is a fantasy. When in fact this life is a test and heaven awaits those who pass.
 

calibob

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I have no problem with most LEGAL immigrants.....I personally think ALL should be heavily scrutinized and NO ONE should be let in if they have extremist views, prior arrests and convictions, or ties to gangs or cartels....and they should have to apply in their COUNTRY and AFTER approval be issued a a TWO year period to peak English, have a legit job and prove you can make it without financial help from the gov.

AND ALL assistance to ILLEGALS should cease and desist, it should be redirected at AMERICANS that need it especially taking care of the elderly, sick, and children.....after that VOTE on where it gets spent in one lump sum yearly.....with two options one being the deficit and maybe the other a rotating option with maybe 10 options that roll through once a year for 10 years.........

Like first year

Deficit
4 New Children's hospitals
I don't take issue with most of what you said however we have already set a precedent long time ago by taking in political refugees. In our lifetime alone. Cubans, Ethiopians and Vietnamese just to mention a few. Should we suddenly say, "no room at the inn?"
 

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Are we supposed to believe in a science that keep changing? (Not to you Grace) It once believed the world was flat and the universe revolved around it. Then they thought astrology was a science. Black people were 3/5 human. Now many believe we are descendants of some cosmic anomaly that happened so long ago we still can't see the flash. And now we are concerned about HAARP? The Lord will finish of the sinners of the world and destroy all of it's established nation with borders only a remnant that flee and those taken out first will survive

Romans 9:26-28, 26... "In the very place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' there they will be called 'children of the living God.'" 27Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved. 28For the LORD will carry out his sentence on earth with speed and finality." NIV
Just to correct false history. Black people wasn't seen as 3/5 of a person. That was created by the North to prevent the South from being able to count all their slaves as a population and giving them more delegates in Congress. Had no context in the image of a black American.
 

kaylagrl

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I don't take issue with most of what you said however we have already set a precedent long time ago by taking in political refugees. In our lifetime alone. Cubans, Ethiopians and Vietnamese just to mention a few. Should we suddenly say, "no room at the inn?"

We're not saying "no room at the inn". We're saying we have to have borders and people have to come legally. Will an inn stay open if it has open doors to everyone and they all stay for free? BTW EVERY SINGLE person that has run for president can be seen on video saying this. Both the Clintons said it, Obama said it, Shummer said it for pity sake and they did say "illegal alien".
 

kaylagrl

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Shame on you. Stand up and be counted. Put your big boy pants on and get into the battle.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Right, if you don't vote you don't have a right to complain when things go wrong in the country.
 

kaylagrl

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I have no problem with most LEGAL immigrants.....I personally think ALL should be heavily scrutinized and NO ONE should be let in if they have extremist views, prior arrests and convictions, or ties to gangs or cartels....and they should have to apply in their COUNTRY and AFTER approval be issued a a TWO year period to peak English, have a legit job and prove you can make it without financial help from the gov.

AND ALL assistance to ILLEGALS should cease and desist, it should be redirected at AMERICANS that need it especially taking care of the elderly, sick, and children.....after that VOTE on where it gets spent in one lump sum yearly.....with two options one being the deficit and maybe the other a rotating option with maybe 10 options that roll through once a year for 10 years.........

Like first year

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4 New Children's hospitals
Yeah, I think I mentioned before, when my family came into the country we had to have a sponsor. They were responsible for us. We were allowed no gov't assistance, none. So I don't understand how people have no issue with illegals coming here and getting all the benefits Dems are willing to give them. They're more concerned with people from another country than they are about this one. Why? Voters!! Plain and simple.
 

calibob

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We're not saying "no room at the inn". We're saying we have to have borders and people have to come legally. Will an inn stay open if it has open doors to everyone and they all stay for free? BTW EVERY SINGLE person that has run for president can be seen on video saying this. Both the Clintons said it, Obama said it, Shummer said it for pity sake and they did say "illegal alien".
Never heard of Shumer but the Clintons?(n) Obama?(n) I'd rather vote for Bill Mahr & Jon Stewart.
What about political refugees seeking asylum? was the Question.
 

kaylagrl

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Trump denies scientific facts, while the Amazon is burning and record temperatures are happening all over the world. Nuff said.
Climate change, green new deal, nothing more than a tax grab. Real science allows disagreement and study. Climate change isn't science, it's a religion. No one is allowed to disagree. The founder of Green Peace says AOC is batty. So who's right? Temps go up, they go down, that's climate change. They had people saying the same thing 20,30,40 years ago. You can Google it. If climate change was true Obama wouldn't have dropped all that dough on a castle beside the water. They all scream about it, tell us what we should do about it and then do the opposite. Sanders saying he wasn't going to stop taking an airplane. Why not?! If it's going to be all over in 12yrs wouldn't you sell your huge mansions, stop flying and walk or bike everywhere? But they don't do they. Because they don't believe their own rhetoric. And I have news for you, Christians don't care if it all ends in 12yrs, we're going to a better place.
 

dcontroversal

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I don't take issue with most of what you said however we have already set a precedent long time ago by taking in political refugees. In our lifetime alone. Cubans, Ethiopians and Vietnamese just to mention a few. Should we suddenly say, "no room at the inn?"
We should take care of our own IMV.......we are what....22 trillion in debt.....and the monies (tax revenue) we spend on illegals, other nations, defense of the world etc. could easily be used to pay our d... debt off.........then AFTER we have gotten a hold of our debt, which WILL sink the nation if we do not get a hold of it, maybe we can help others and or allow the flood gates to be opened again......and that being a small chance of maybe.....
 

kaylagrl

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Never heard of Shumer but the Clintons?(n) Obama?(n) I'd rather vote for Bill Mahr & Jon Stewart.
What about political refugees seeking asylum? was the Question.
You've never heard of Shummer?! o_O The point wasn't who you'd vote for,the point is they all act like they're tough on borders. They're all on video saying it. BTW Mahr is hoping for a recession, and it won't affect him so that tells you all you need to know about that guy. As far as political refugees I would guess that would be on a case by case situation. If people can be vetted. Germany took in all those Muslims and look what happened to them. Not safe for a woman to walk alone anymore. So I think it depends. I think we should be very careful who comes into the country.
 

kaylagrl

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Personally I look forward to the days when he is not in the White House and we don't hear his name mentioned in the news ever again. I've heard the Trumpet blow about as much as I can handle....
Well there are a lot of people that would disagree. And so far the left hasn't found anyone that can beat him, and they know it. Biden can only remember a story if he's bold faced lying. The other two at the top are socialist/communist. I expect the Dems to pull out someone soon. They're working on someone, and ol' Hillary has been awful quiet lately...
 

kaylagrl

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Absolutely, no doubt about it!! Everyone else has blood on their hands from the innocent babies they choose to slaughter, and anyone that votes for them also has blood on their hands. Get over your dislike for Pres Trump and take a real look at what the others stand for!!
I could not agree with you more!! It may possibly be the number ONE reason Christians ought to be voting for the GOP plateform. Dems are now talking infanticide. Buttigieg just said that up until the day of birth a baby can be aborted. And Frances (refuse to call him Beto) just confronted a man that asked him if his life was worthless because he wasn't aborted and was allowed to live. And Frances went back to "it's a womans right". The sacred cow of the left, abortion. As I say to Dems all the time "don't you dare talk about racism if you support Planned Parenthood!!" And I say the same to Christians who vote Dem. Do not talk about Trump being "racist" if you vote Dem which is a huge supporter of PP founded by racist Margret Sanger.
 

calibob

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We should take care of our own IMV.......we are what....22 trillion in debt.....and the monies (tax revenue) we spend on illegals, other nations, defense of the world etc. could easily be used to pay our d... debt off.........then AFTER we have gotten a hold of our debt, which WILL sink the nation if we do not get a hold of it, maybe we can help others and or allow the flood gates to be opened again......and that being a small chance of maybe.....
Thank you for sharing some good, uncommon sense. I would get behind a pay off the national debt first policy. Get out of the middle east. They'd rather cut our throats than make us a sandwich anyway. If we paid off the national debt and became solvent we'd get more respect from the world than brandishing our weapons or acting as if we are in charge of the world. Fear gets tiresome. History repeats itself.
“How the mighty have fallen! The weapons of war have perished!”
2 Samuel 1:27
 

calibob

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Climate change, green new deal, nothing more than a tax grab. Real science allows disagreement and study. Climate change isn't science, it's a religion. No one is allowed to disagree. The founder of Green Peace says AOC is batty. So who's right? Temps go up, they go down, that's climate change. They had people saying the same thing 20,30,40 years ago. You can Google it. If climate change was true Obama wouldn't have dropped all that dough on a castle beside the water. They all scream about it, tell us what we should do about it and then do the opposite. Sanders saying he wasn't going to stop taking an airplane. Why not?! If it's going to be all over in 12yrs wouldn't you sell your huge mansions, stop flying and walk or bike everywhere? But they don't do they. Because they don't believe their own rhetoric. And I have news for you, Christians don't care if it all ends in 12yrs, we're going to a better place.
I've seen and measured (I had an emissions control inspectors license) the difference in Los Angeles air quality since lead was taken out of gasoline and regulations as well as smog inspections have been required and enforced. Maybe you never lived in an area with over 14,000,000 people within a 200 x 75 mile strip of land bolstered by mountains on the east and a daily on shore breeze from the west every day when the smog was too heavy to blow over the mountains but I was born there.

Maybe you never worked in a fish cannery when the work stopped because the mercury levels in tuna made it unfit for human consumption... My father did.

Pollution is a threat to all who breathe air or drink water. If you don't believe me go swim in the Long Beach California, harbor or breathe the air in Houston or Pasadena Texas on a warm still day.
 

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I've seen and measured (I had an emissions control inspectors license) the difference in Los Angeles air quality since lead was taken out of gasoline and regulations as well as smog inspections have been required and enforced. Maybe you never lived in an area with over 14,000,000 people within a 200 x 75 mile strip of land bolstered by mountains on the east and a daily on shore breeze from the west every day when the smog was too heavy to blow over the mountains but I was born there.

Maybe you never worked in a fish cannery when the work stopped because the mercury levels in tuna made it unfit for human consumption... My father did.

Pollution is a threat to all who breathe air or drink water. If you don't believe me go swim in the Long Beach California, harbor or breathe the air in Houston or Pasadena Texas on a warm still day.
Sorry, not more important than abortion, socialism, globalism, marriage and the family,just to name a few.
 

kaylagrl

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Sorry, not more important than abortion, socialism, globalism, marriage and the family,just to name a few.

p.s. Not to mention the Dems finally showing their anti-Semitism true colors.
 

kaylagrl

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Sister Mag. care to explain the red x further? I know you disagree with Islam. Dems are backing Omar and Tlaib.