Who is voting for Trump again?

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gb9

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Susanna said:
I think not picking one side is a valid way of stating an opinion.

Both sides are flawed and to me picking one of them is moot.

Society is changing and we need to be able to govern the country for the changes, and not be too tied up in the past.

Like it or not, we already have millions of non native English speakers in this country (I know, I’m one of them), and to make them honorable citizens, we need to communicate with them. Not alienate them.
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um, the dems want open borders and socialism . that is a " side" that we need to oppose.

I will side with nationalism over evil globalism every time.
 
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calibob said:
Can't anyone oppose both sides? Can't anyone stand for moderation in all things any more? Do we have to pick as side if we see faults in both. Neither side is all right or all wrong so why can't we reason together?

Because there is no middle ground. One person has to go into office. It's globalism, communism/socialism, infanticide, against Israel, against borders,police,rule of law and totally against any Biblical belief. There is no middle ground to be found in that.

Abortion is murder. So is war for profit.

Please don't minimize the seriousness of abortion. Right now we are living in peace, we are not at war though we could be if Trump were inclined. Abortion is a sacred cow to the left, now they are supporting infanticide. It's despicable. Every one of the Dem candidates support abortion, and most up until the moment of birth and even after. That one issue alone is worth voting the GOP platform.

Marxism is a dead and so is privatization of public works like schools, dams, bridges and roads. It's called fascism! We need public schools health care and roads for middle class working people. If we devolve into a 2 class society again like 300 years ago ruler vs workers. A civil revolutionary war will is bound to happen again. Heads will roll and bodies will stink, again!

Can't you see the Devil want's us fighting against ourselves. Just read he book of acts and see how 1st generation Christians learned how to share with and love one another. Let that be the role model. Raise your sights from the Rockefellers and the Rothchilds to "The Way."

Yes, I can see what the devil wants, I just wish other Christians did. I'm praying eyes will be opened before it's too late. This vote is for the heart and soul of the country. People need to wake up. There is no middle ground.
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gb9 said:
um, the dems want open borders and socialism . that is a " side" that we need to oppose.

I will side with nationalism over evil globalism every time.
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Agree 100%
 
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calibob said:
George Carlin was an Athiest.
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I understand, brother, but his points regarding pious, self righteous latte drinkers trying to save the planet holds true. The planet has endured trials and tribulations exponentially more threatening than car emissions and plastic.
 
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kaylagrl

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Susanna said:
I think not picking one side is a valid way of stating an opinion.

Both sides are flawed and to me picking one of them is moot.

Society is changing and we need to be able to govern the country for the changes, and not be too tied up in the past.

Like it or not, we already have millions of non native English speakers in this country (I know, I’m one of them), and to make them honorable citizens, we need to communicate with them. Not alienate them.
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As long as they come legally. I came, I stood in line, I paid each step of the way. I expect each person to do the same. Borders are important and are there for a reason. Society is changing, and not for the better. I'm not sure what you mean by too tied up in the past. But as far as God's word, it never changes. And so we vote according to that.
 
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Lightskin said:
I understand, brother, but his points regarding pious, self righteous latte drinkers trying to save the planet holds true. The planet has endured trials and tribulations exponentially more threatening than car emissions and plastic.
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Right, they preach it but don't live it. They are activist hypocrites. Plain and simple.
 
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calibob said:
Can't anyone oppose both sides? Can't anyone stand for moderation in all things any more? Do we have to pick as side if we see faults in both. Is either side is all right or all wrong?
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I love our planet and do my small, insignificant part to minimize my carbon footprint. Be that as it may, I fight liberal hypocrites tooth and nail for their do as I say not as I do attitude.

Yes, I have a problem with people who want to “save the planet” yet fight for the insatiable right to abort children. It’s lunacy at its finest.
 
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A political system not acknowledging the idea of middle ground will not prosper and will eventually self destruct.

We can see the writing on the wall already.

America is divided. Both sides are to blame.
 
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kaylagrl

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Lightskin said:
I love our planet and do my small, insignificant part to minimize my carbon footprint. Be that as it may, I fight liberal hypocrites tooth and nail for their do as I say not as I do attitude.

Yes, I have a problem with people who want to “save the planet” yet fight for the insatiable right to abort children. It’s lunacy at its finest.
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A truer statement was never spoken. 100% correct. It's madness, and even worse that Christians would support it.
 
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Susanna said:
A political system not acknowledging the idea of middle ground will not prosper and will eventually self destruct.

We can see the writing on the wall already.

America is divided. Both sides are to blame.
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Really so where is the middle ground between communism and capitalism?

Where is the middle ground between infanticsm and right to life?

Where is the middle ground between God is dead and the Bible is for fools and God is creator of all and the Bible is true?

Where is the middle ground between no borders,police,rule of law and the opposite?
 
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I don’t have any strong opinions on the climate change debate, because I don’t have enough knowledge about it.

I’m opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, but that doesn’t mean I don’t believe we can’t find common ground in other areas.

The word of God never changes, but both sides of the political system in America is changing and none of them can be trusted.
 
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Susanna

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kaylagrl said:
Really so where is the middle ground between communism and capitalism?

Where is the middle ground between infanticsm and right to life?

Where is the middle ground between God is dead and the Bible is for fools and God is creator of all and the Bible is true?

Where is the middle ground between no borders,police,rule of law and the opposite?
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The simple answer is that we already have middle ground between capitalism and communism. They are both extremes and we can’t find systems where they apply in a pure form.

There is no middle ground between abortion or the right to life. That doesn’t mean we should ruin the rest of society. No Republican or Democrat has yet done that.

In addition to that they have found common ground here, which, by the way, is rather appalling.
 
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Susanna said:
The simple answer is that we already have middle ground between capitalism and communism. They are both extremes and we can’t find systems where they apply in a pure form.

And there's the problem. You think capitalism is an extreme. It has lifted more people out of poverty around the world than any other system. The fact that you think these too systems compare at all is disturbing. Communism has brought nothing but death, poverty and destruction wherever it has been tried.


There is no middle ground between abortion or the right to life. That doesn’t mean we should ruin the rest of society. No Republican or Democrat has yet done that.

I'm sorry, I don't follow what you mean by ruin the rest of society. What ruins society more than 65 million murders?


In addition to that they have found common ground here, which, by the way, is rather appalling.
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Susanna said:
The simple answer is that we already have middle ground between capitalism and communism. They are both extremes and we can’t find systems where they apply in a pure form.

There is no middle ground between abortion or the right to life. That doesn’t mean we should ruin the rest of society. No Republican or Democrat has yet done that.

In addition to that they have found common ground here, which, by the way, is rather appalling.
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when you have socialist / antifa groups marching though city streets chanting " no borders, no walls, no u s a. at all", where is common ground with that?
 
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Susanna

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when you have socialist / antifa groups marching though city streets chanting " no borders, no walls, no u s a. at all", where is common ground with that?
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But you’re responding to something I didn’t say.

I haven’t said anything about supporting those groups.

Quite the contrary. I have no sympathy with people taking to the streets rioting and looting. CC must be the only place that this is even suggested.
 
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We don’t have pure capitalism in America. Saying otherwise is describing a system that doesn’t exist.
 
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kaylagrl

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Susanna said:
We don’t have pure capitalism in America. Saying otherwise is describing a system that doesn’t exist.
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I don't care what it is, it's better than communism, it's lifted more people out of poverty that any other system in the world.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I don't care what it is, it's better than communism, it's lifted more people out of poverty that any other system in the world.
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But that’s not the point. What is lifting people out of poverty is a system that has the ability to give people the opportunity to make a living.

I don’t know where you live, but in Eastern Texas we have more poverty than we want to realize.

The system is clearly not working as it’s supposed to.
 
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Dallas, Austin and Houston are hubs for illegal immigrants

what's that about poverty?

honest to pete

wakie wakie and understand this country has made its own problems and when someone finally tries to activate the solution, he gets called hitler and a russian operative

it's no wonder holywoo gets to lead here with the chants and the hatred

they make real life as bizarre as so many of the movies that are spawned in that elite society

an awful big glass of cool aid is being passed around

and the interesting kicker, is that most illegals are not even Mexican

THE FACTS'

on the map that shows the distribution, Florida...they have Miami

they forgot Orlando

 
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7seasrekeyed

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it would appear that it is the immigration system that is broken

BILLIONS because of illegals

now get ready for the spin on the facts and an ad hominum attack :eek: :LOL:
 
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