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SophieT

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But the way I see Barr as is usual was a "fixer". He exists to ensure that the "right people" are fully protected from the law & never have to face justice.

Even the gators have left the swamp for lack of good company

William Barr, in full William Pelham Barr, (born May 23, 1950, New York City), American lawyer and government official who served as attorney general of the United States during the administrations of Presidents George H.W. Bush (1991–93) and Donald Trump (2019– ). Barr was the second person in U.S. history to serve twice as attorney general (the first was John J. Crittenden).

Sadly I will concede that Trump should never have picked a Bush favorite and invited him in. The Bush's are not exactly fans of Trump.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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people who are familiar with my conversation on these forums know that i'm particularly conscientious about capitalizing references to the One True God. ask @Magenta for example, who shares the self-same fastidiousness.

in the post you quoted i have intentionally left it lower-case to indicate that y'all following a false god when your debased minds tell you that this thread full of foolishness is 'god's work'

see that lowercase g? it means i don't consider your worldly partisan cultic devotion to be representative of actual Christianity. it's a different god you serve here.


thanks for highlighting my nuance; tho it originally sailed over your head, perhaps now with a more full explanation it will sink in. :)
I didn't interpret this thread as God's work. I thought people were just blowing off steam.
Did you ever read the 1984 novel?
 
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kaylagrl

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Yes the pill is also connected to infertility and other problems.

And people need to be consistent in their outrage.


Don't think my post came through so I'll post again. BC fails often, if the reason for taking it is to stop a pregnancy. I'm no advocate of BC and certainly not for those who are having sex outside marriage. Most young people don't use BC properly and then, abortion. So my "outrage" is consistent. 60 million abortions is a hill I'm willing to die on. I say again, we need to stop putting people in office that glorify abortion!!
 

cv5

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I saw this comment on Youtube yesterday. It seemed legit.

"The US history of the globalist NWO

In 1934 there was a 'Business Plot' for the planned fascist takeover of the United States. This was exposed in Congress by patriotic General Smedley Butler who was asked by the conspirators to lead the troops overrunning DC in a coup lot against FDR. The NY Times mocked it as a "giant hoax"--no surprises there. Behind the conspiracy was bankster Prescot Bush, father of the deceased president GHW Bush, who also assisted Hitler with financing to build his secret and illegal war machine with Jewish slave labor. As you may know Bush announced the NWO in his Sep 11, 1990 and 1991 state of the union address. History proves this NWO design is not benevolent as it originates from the Bush crime family syndicate who was behind Hitler. Hitler's fascism backed by globalist banksters was the first attempt at a global NWO tyranny.

In 1963, the globalists assassinated JFK who was publicly opposed to undermining their fiat monetary system and the globalist corrupt CIA. LBJ was controlled by them and he gave them their war in Vietnam, but demoralized by this control, he did not seek reelection for a second term. Instead, the globalist placed Nixon to get us off the gold standard, establish the petro-dollar fiat currency and establish ties with China that became the globalist welcome mat into the USA for insurgently taking over. GHW Bush was de facto ambassador to China. Are you connecting the dots here?

Nixon's election fraud spying was exposed by DEEPTHROAT in a free press. It is difficult to prove now in an environment where over 90% of teh press is no longer free but controlled by the globalists. Nixon stepped down to prevent disgrace by conviction of impeachment and perhaps stop further spotlighting of globalist actors involved in shadow gov't activities. Ford pardoned globalist criminal Nixon, and America unwittingly chose a non-globalist president Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy Carter's mishandling of the Iran Hostage Crisis led to globalist Bush going behind his back and negotiating a deal with Iran. Deal made, Carter's rescue operation would have dismantled it. The operation was sabotaged by Bush's globalist corrupt CIA and failed. When non-globalist Reagan stepped into office with Bush on his coattails, the hostages were promptly released and we had 8 years of Iran-Contra. Deal exposed. Bush quietly removed himself from DC and an assassination plot against Reagan was attempted. Bush would have to wait 8 years before taking the Whitehouse back for the globalists.

Since 1988 and before Trump the US has had nothing but globalist presidents and RINOs running against them as insurance policies. In that time, there was a secret rebellion of top military brass in a way akin to the German Operation Valkyrie. They wouldn't bring down just "Hitler" this time but rather the who globalist underworld in this nation.

In 2016, these rebel military operators asked Trump to run as president for their operation. They insured Hillary's Dominion voting system would not be allowed to cheat enough to get her into the Whitehouse. The reason she threw a tantrum in her hotel room election night was not because she lost the election, but because she paid millions of dollars to ensure she won it and the conspirators did not deliver.

The globalist underworld is structured as a three compartment organization--Corporations, Mafia and Military. When Trump took over, he took over the military. Yes, there were globalist swamp creatures in the mix that had to be removed, but legal authority belonged to Trump. He took that military and built a wall to stop the globalist plan to overrun this country with Latin American immigrants and change forever the voting landscape in their favor. This also stopped the trained militants from easily sneaking into the country as well as blocked the land based drug and human trafficking of the globalist crime syndicate. The Mexican cartels were all controlled by one Caucasian male (1996 at least) if that is an indication to you for where the crime in Mexico stems from. Drugs at least (cocaine/Heroine) were run into a major hub in New Mexico and distributed throughout the United States, at least partially by a water softening company based there. The final distribution was made through other companies like home health care deliveries for an example and UPS and FedEx shipments. Trump used the military to form a sea and air blockade to shut down this part of globalist money that enabled much of their clandestine operations in this country. The only remaining compartment was Corporations of which Big Tech and mainstream media is part of. EO of September 12, 2018 and the forthcoming evidence of Chinese complicit election fraud will connect these corporations to foreign agents hostile to the United States and will allow the president to free the assets of all supportive actors to this national security crisis.

I believe the final domino to fall will be the globalist central banking system. Trump pulled it into the Treasury to take control away from the cabal. He will audit the Fed, discover their international based crimes of treason and deny payment of the national debt while it is on their balance sheet. This will bankrupt the fed and free the world from their debt to it. This is how the globalists control gov'ts--through debt. The IRS will be dissolved as this was created to tax the people to pay the interest on that debt as that debt create the money they printed out of thin air. High cost of education and school debt is just another globalist scheme to create more fiat money. Those debts will be vanquished, too. You have a lot to look forward to in Trump. Anyone who says otherwise is either a fool or a complicit actor in the worst crime against humanity.

I don't know the exact way the chips will fall in the remaining 37 days of Trump's counter assault on globalism in this country. I suspect he will exhaust all civil avenues to retaking the election that I believe was rightfully won by him before military action is used. Win or lose, military actin is inevitable. If he turns the election, Antifa will go into overdrive with trained and armed militant action and try to provoke civil war. The insurrection Act will be implemented to shut this action down quickly. The president has authority to do this as the globalist D governors and mayors have already demonstrated an inability or unwillingness to protect their American citizenry from BLM and Antifa hostilities. If Trump fails to turn the election, his intel and knowledge of the will of the majority of the American people authorizes him to lawfully fulfil his oath to the US Constitution to use the military to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestic. This is why the president has allowed an 800 prisoner capacity GITMO with only 40 prisoners to remain, and added 5000 sqft of prisoner housing including facilities for prisoners advanced in age. There are a lot of arrests coming soon. No one will be able to pardon these criminals. That's just not going to happen. No president has the power to raise the dead, not even one picked by God.

Trump didn't lose the 2020 election. He stood back and let them cheat and take it from him. It was a giant sting operation whereby he accumulated evidence to expose the globalist corrupt election system that has rendered the republic obsolete. No legitimate vote means 'We the People' no longer control by consent, and if that's the case, then there is no remaining functional republic. But the plan was never to give the election away. It will be taken back, one way or the other. LAWFULLY. Time and evidence will eventually establish that as fact.

You can choose to believe what I have said, note it and seek out confirmation or altogether bury your heads in the sand and dismiss it. It makes no difference to me. What happens will happen. It doesn't hinge on winning or losing an argument. I'm just letting you all know what I know as a MILINT brat as I have picked up through the years.

You should all be encouraged people like Flynn and Trump and their military brass backers still exist. I thought it was over for our country. It was impossible for one man to fight. I've been thinking that for 24 years. On the surface it seems necessary to globalize gov't to solve the huge problems facing us as a world. Underneath, it is in reality a seizure of sovereignty that will certainly result in CCP/Nazi like worldwide tyranny with no way out. Then Trump woke me up during the pandemic and finally made it all fall into place what was actually happening. The Q counter insurgency is real. Nothing can stop what is coming--Globalist extraction and PAIN.

Hold the line patriots, digital warriors, all of you, the whole worldwide. You are with us. They are in your land and gov'ts, to--sell outs. They have sold you out. We stand together or we fall together. Make your voice heard that you are here and you are awake. A counter-insurgency has worked when the insurgency fails to divide us. It shouldn't be long now.

And as always---'this is in dispute', lol. "
Much of what this person is saying has merit. Old man Bush and Bush jr we're both bonesmen. They were committed to nothing else than the NWO.

This Dominion election fraud international conspiracy is sufficient cause for invoking the EO.
The Republic must by all means be preserved.
 

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This is where I see many Christians contradict themselves though. When it comes to ectopic pregnancies they are for aborting the fetus because they assume it isn't viable. In reality, there is a possibility ectopic fetuses can still be viable, although rare. They state "killing the unborn is murder" but are for killing an ectopic fetus assuming it won't be viable but claim it isn't "murder". Unless they are God, how do they know if the ectopic pregnancy is viable or not? If you think abortion is murder, then aborting even in ectopic scenarios is potentially murder as we can't guarantee the fetus doesn't have a chance.

Interesting, I researched this part of the discussion and here is what I found...

A salpingectomy, in contrast, is an act to remove the damaged portion of the fallopian tube.

For this reason, salpingectomies are generally considered moral under the principle of double effect: the objective of the surgery is the removal of the affected tube, and the embryo dies as an undesired - although foreseen - side effect. Since there are no alternative procedures that can save the life of the embryo, this process is considered morally acceptable.

Dr. O’Sullivan said in her view, the methotrexate treatment and the salpingostomy are both abortions.

“What you're doing this time [in a salpingectomy] is you're taking out damaged section of tube, and since it's removed it's cut off from its blood supply, and ultimately the little baby, will die,” O’Sullivan explained.

“In the other two cases, the baby is going to die, too. But both of them are direct attacks on the baby itself. In this latter one, you primary intent is to remove the diseased section of the tube, and you know that the outcome of that will be the loss of the pregnancy.”


Kevin Miller, a Catholic moral theologian at Franciscan University of Steubenville, agreed.

“I think it is somewhere between extremely hard and impossible to conceptualize [methotrexate] administration for ectopic pregnancy as anything other than direct killing of the embryo,” he said.

“The embryo’s death is the chosen means to the end of resolving the ectopic pregnancy and saving the mother from possible hemorrhage – it is not a ‘side effect.’”



The National Catholic Bioethics Center (NCBC) reports that incidences of ectopic pregnancy have increased by 600% in the United States in the last two decades.

“Epidemiologists from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention attribute the rise to chlamydia and other sexually transmitted diseases that can scar the fallopian tubes, as well as failed tubal sterilizations and the increased use of drugs and surgery to induce ovulation. Other conditions, such as endometriosis, can also contribute to this pathology,” the bioethics center says.




Though I consider abortion, the taking of innocent life murder, I do not consider most women who have abortions "murderers". I'm on secular forums all the time and I note that most arguments that are given like "my body, my choice" are 1973 talking points. Most women have been brain washed. When I point out that it in fact is not their body, that the baby has it's own DNA, fingerprints and often a different blood type than the mother, they go silent. That's just the start of many convos. Then they bring up rape/medical/incest which are 4% of abortions according to Guttmacher, PPs own research arm and they seem stunned. So no, I don't consider the vast majority of woman that have an abortion "murderers" nor irredeemable. I do consider the doctors, who know exactly what they are doing, murderers and they have blood on their hands literally and figuratively. I hold them 100% accountable.
 
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Interesting, I researched this part of the discussion and here is what I found...

A salpingectomy, in contrast, is an act to remove the damaged portion of the fallopian tube.

For this reason, salpingectomies are generally considered moral under the principle of double effect: the objective of the surgery is the removal of the affected tube, and the embryo dies as an undesired - although foreseen - side effect. Since there are no alternative procedures that can save the life of the embryo, this process is considered morally acceptable.

Dr. O’Sullivan said in her view, the methotrexate treatment and the salpingostomy are both abortions.

“What you're doing this time [in a salpingectomy] is you're taking out damaged section of tube, and since it's removed it's cut off from its blood supply, and ultimately the little baby, will die,” O’Sullivan explained.

“In the other two cases, the baby is going to die, too. But both of them are direct attacks on the baby itself. In this latter one, you primary intent is to remove the diseased section of the tube, and you know that the outcome of that will be the loss of the pregnancy.”

Kevin Miller, a Catholic moral theologian at Franciscan University of Steubenville, agreed.

“I think it is somewhere between extremely hard and impossible to conceptualize [methotrexate] administration for ectopic pregnancy as anything other than direct killing of the embryo,” he said.

“The embryo’s death is the chosen means to the end of resolving the ectopic pregnancy and saving the mother from possible hemorrhage – it is not a ‘side effect.’”


The National Catholic Bioethics Center (NCBC) reports that incidences of ectopic pregnancy have increased by 600% in the United States in the last two decades.

“Epidemiologists from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention attribute the rise to chlamydia and other sexually transmitted diseases that can scar the fallopian tubes, as well as failed tubal sterilizations and the increased use of drugs and surgery to induce ovulation. Other conditions, such as endometriosis, can also contribute to this pathology,” the bioethics center says.



Though I consider abortion, the taking of innocent life murder, I do not consider most women who have abortions "murderers". I'm on secular forums all the time and I note that most arguments that are given like "my body, my choice" are 1973 talking points. Most women have been brain washed. When I point out that it in fact is not their body, that the baby has it's own DNA, fingerprints and often a different blood type than the mother, they go silent. That's just the start of many convos. Then they bring up rape/medical/incest which are 4% of abortions according to Guttmacher, PPs own research arm and they seem stunned. So no, I don't consider the vast majority of woman that have an abortion "murderers" nor irredeemable. I do consider the doctors, who know exactly what they are doing, murderers and they have blood on their hands literally and figuratively. I hold them 100% accountable.
I think we can all agree that abortion is premeditated murder.
 
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Much of what this person is saying has merit. Old man Bush and Bush jr we're both bonesmen. They were committed to nothing else than the NWO.

This Dominion election fraud international conspiracy is sufficient cause for invoking the EO.
The Republic must by all means be preserved.

Right and that is why I posted what I did in #4801. That's old news though and part of why I question why Trump dusted Barr off and gave him a job?

Easy to see why Barr played along and said okey dokey. I never used to believe in conspiracies. Ha.
 

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I wouldn't take Donald Trump's or any other politician's stance on abortion as a realistic factor to vote for them. If they thought that a particular stance would get them elected, they would switch in a heartbeat.

For all of us who voted for Trump, it's all over but the crying. We need to get off our backsides and do what we can to see that two senate seats are filled by republicans. Don't waste time crying over spelt milk.
 
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