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I'm trying to encourage people to give up politics, parties, flags and jump into the bible like jumping off of a bridge into deep water. I get offended by people that act like Christianity is a political party. If I were in King James England he'd ship me off to Jamestown to starve. I'd rather go than to bow, kneel or serve King James.

The same goes for Trump. If Biden double-crosses the poor, the sick the old and or the needy he can got to hell too!
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I bow to your moral stuperiority……all you’re previous hopelessly partisan politicking aside!

Who are u kidding Caliboob !?

Can’t u be honest for once in your life without wrapping yourself in pious ‘holier than thou-ness’?
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I want to see a news outlet that exposes both sides and isn't afraid to open the curtain and show the truth of both the which and the fraud wizard. Both sides are the enemies. Make no mistake the antichrist and the beast will take control before Jesus returns. No nation will be exempt; not one! We should no longer follow human leaders. They're all corrupt to the core!
I believe politics are a very important part of life

We partake in working, shopping for goods and items

Sometimes we get injured and end up in convalescent hospitals?

If the liberals had it their way, it would be a shot and go to sleep at 65 years old, euthanasia

I think it's a good thing for Christian's being involved in politics, and not all politicians are corrupt as you claim, 25% I believe have a conscious
 

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I bow to your moral stuperiority……all you’re previous hopelessly partisan politicking aside!

Who are u kidding Caliboob !?

Can’t u be honest for once in your life without wrapping yourself in pious ‘holier than thou-ness’?
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I believe CNN has taken its toll :)
 

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I'm trying to encourage people to give up politics, parties, flags and jump into the bible like jumping off of a bridge into deep water. I get offended by people that act like Christianity is a political party. If I were in King James England he'd ship me off to Jamestown to starve. I'd rather go than to bow, kneel or serve King James.

The same goes for Trump. If Biden double-crosses the poor, the sick the old and or the needy he can got to hell too!
Sounds like you just denounced President Trump and have put your trust and hope in Biden to take care of the sick, poor, needy

He supports killing the unborn, it's the Democrats goal to take Americas self defense in the 2nd amendment, and have everybody bow, wake up Bob

Perhaps thats your true desire, put the Godless liberals in control, give communist China full control in America
 

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I can only stand cable TV news about 20 - 45 min a day. Then I find something else to do. Like laugh at Trumpkins, like you, that can't recognize an unhinged, narcissistic pathological liar with delusional Histrionic personality disorder. Hes crazier than Mel Brooks acted in "History of the World, part 2"
Bob, I have watched your postings for months?

It's my opinion your a President Trump hating liberal, suffering from TDS 10th Stage

There is no center of the lane any longer, your either conservative or liberal

The democratic party of the 50's, 60's, 70's, is gone, it's not about jobs and the blue collared working man

It's about homosexuality, kill the unborn, and full control and domination

I choose the conservative platform, God, Family, Country
 

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Sounds like you just denounced President Trump and have put your trust and hope in Biden to take care of the sick, poor, needy

He supports killing the unborn, it's the Democrats goal to take Americas self defense in the 2nd amendment, and have everybody bow, wake up Bob

Perhaps thats your true desire, put the Godless liberals in control, give communist China full control in America
Now me being from Texas you know I support guns none of the new laws are infringing are rights I promise you there keeping them out of the hands of violent criminals. I can sell a gun and to anybody in Texas without doing background check as long as they are resident also that needs to be fixed anyone can get a gun felon or not. Now are they going to get more strict down the road time will tell.
 

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Now me being from Texas you know I support guns none of the new laws are infringing are rights I promise you there keeping them out of the hands of violent criminals. I can sell a gun and to anybody in Texas without doing background check as long as they are resident also that needs to be fixed anyone can get a gun felon or not. Now are they going to get more strict down the road time will tell.
That's news to me, I thought all States required a fire arms dealer, with background checks before sales?

Should a person with a felony DUI, or a white collar crime, taxes, etc be restricted from gun ownership?
 

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Sounds like you just denounced President Trump and have put your trust and hope in Biden to take care of the sick, poor, needy

He supports killing the unborn, it's the Democrats goal to take Americas self defense in the 2nd amendment, and have everybody bow, wake up Bob

Perhaps thats your true desire, put the Godless liberals in control, give communist China full control in America
No! I denounce major parts of both sides. I denounce abortion, unrestricted capitolism, more gay rights, pollution and Imperialism. I denounce the ways of the world. The dismantling of the new deal as well as power and principalities in high places. Why is it so difficult for you and others to understand that the only purpose for life is to love and worship God. Be ,kind to others and share the Gospel through actions like, feeding the hungry and helping strangers including foreigners'. Jesus first, family like honoring our Fathers and Mothers second.

Neighbors and ourselves third. Our duty now is to the Cross and the great commission.
 

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That's news to me, I thought all States required a fire arms dealer, with background checks before sales?

Should a person with a felony DUI, or a white collar crime, taxes, etc be restricted from gun ownership?
Not here it’s a private sell as long as we are both residents I just sold three few months ago I think i better know the law before I do it. And for your second ? I think only violent crimes shouldn’t be aloud and maybe restrict those others you ask about till they take care of legal matter just seems just.
 

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That's news to me, I thought all States required a fire arms dealer, with background checks before sales?
. Most, not all states forbid convicted felons from buying hand gun
Should a person with a felony DUI, or a white collar crime, taxes, etc be restricted from gun ownership?
No they don't. When I lived in Nevada and Oklahoma we could buy guns private party and or at gun shows without background checks.

Only gun dealers are required to do 'due diligence' before selling Guns. The purchaser is responsible in private sales. Most (not all states) forbid convicted felons from purchasing or having handguns in possession. Again it's still a matter of states rights. So far.
 

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No they don't. When I lived in Nevada and Oklahoma we could buy guns private party and or at gun shows without background checks.

Only gun dealers are required to do 'due diligence' before selling Guns. The purchaser is responsible in private sales. Most (not all states) forbid convicted felons from purchasing or having handguns in possession. Again it's still a matter of states rights. So far.
I read up on it, your correct

Private, and Gun show sales, no background check needed

Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and a few other states

Almost all states follow the convicted felon exclusions
 

calibob

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Bob, I have watched your postings for months?

It's my opinion your a President Trump hating liberal, suffering from TDS 10th Stage

There is no center of the lane any longer, your either conservative or liberal

The democratic party of the 50's, 60's, 70's, is gone, it's not about jobs and the blue collared working man

It's about homosexuality, kill the unborn, and full control and domination

@Truth7t7 I choose the conservative platform, God, Family, Country
@Truth7t7 Well I do oppose Trump and unbridled capitolism but I'm not a Democrat. I'm a loner. I do believe social reform is necessary to put the working class back equal to the wealthy. I think that folks like you support retaining the status quo and don't consider FDR the hero of the 20th century. How do you think that we got back on our feet and won WW2?

Now we have a new kind of war. Manufacturing and export of durable goods are more than importation of them. The global economy is the new national enemy. Co-ops are more needed than corporations, if the working class are to survive that is... Once the working class profits increase The taxes collected will be paid for by money spent. Overall profits, quality of life, abundance of healthcare and education are necessary and will improve. The working class will not settle for status quo for long. It always causes a revolution. The end is usually worse to boot.

If we descend into a Autocratic vs Serf economy like 400 years ago, the last 100 years will have become a waste of time. A wide spot on the road to history. Like Greece, Rome and Britannia.

Do you not recall that Saul became king to punish Israel for neglecting God? Abortion, Homosexuality, Pantheism, atheism. Idolatry, greed, sexual immorality, Sorcery (Drug abuse) and people that believe more Science (the created) than God (the creator) are national sins. This might be the great prostitute and or the new Sodom and Gomorrah.

"I choose the conservative platform, God, Family, Country." 7t7.

I don't! I choose God, Christianity, family, neighbors & self before nation. No party lines or platforms.
 

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Not here it’s a private sell as long as we are both residents I just sold three few months ago I think i better know the law before I do it. And for your second ? I think only violent crimes shouldn’t be aloud and maybe restrict those others you ask about till they take care of legal matter just seems just.
Your correct, private sales in Texas, no background checks
 

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@Truth7t7 Well I do oppose Trump and unbridled capitolism but I'm not a Democrat. I'm a loner. I do believe social reform is necessary to put the working class back equal to the wealthy. I think that folks like you support retaining the status quo and don't consider FDR the hero of the 20th century. How do you think that we got back on our feet and won WW2?

Now we have a new kind of war. Manufacturing and export of durable goods are more than importation of them. The global economy is the new national enemy. Co-ops are more needed than corporations, if the working class are to survive that is... Once the working class profits increase The taxes collected will be paid for by money spent. Overall profits, quality of life, abundance of healthcare and education are necessary and will improve. The working class will not settle for status quo for long. It always causes a revolution. The end is usually worse to boot.

If we descend into a Autocratic vs Serf economy like 400 years ago, the last 100 years will have become a waste of time. A wide spot on the road to history. Like Greece, Rome and Britannia.

Do you not recall that Saul became king to punish Israel for neglecting God? Abortion, Homosexuality, Pantheism, atheism. Idolatry, greed, sexual immorality, Sorcery (Drug abuse) and people that believe more Science (the created) than God (the creator) are national sins. This might be the great prostitute and or the new Sodom and Gomorrah.

"I choose the conservative platform, God, Family, Country." 7t7.

I don't! I choose God, Christianity, family, neighbors & self before nation. No party lines or platforms.
You oppose capitalism, and support co-ops,you desire that the working class are equal to the wealthy?

Your A Commie At Heart, A System That Dosent And Never Will Work

The Capitalist System Has Made America Wealthy, Investment, Hard Work, Provides Jobs To Society And Wealth

Should a healthy person who dosent work and contribute to society, be equal to a person who has sacrificed through, years of college, investment, long hours, to be successful?

Your Commie Let's Make Every Body Equal Is A Pipe Dream, Sit Around Idle And Hit The Crack Pipe And Drink Vodka

While The Rulers In This System, Have Mansions, Jets, Luxury Cars, And Eat Caviar And Lobster
 

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I don't! I choose God, Christianity, family, neighbors & self before nation. No party lines or platforms.
Bob it's my opinion after careful observation, that you choose (Self) just as you stated above, what can be done for Bob

Its God, Family, Country For Me, And Yes My Neighbor Is Part Of This Country

You Oppose Capitalism, Hard Work, Investment Risk, Wealth

You Support The Communist Model, What Can Government Do For Me, The Very Platform Of The Democratic Party

(Self)
 

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To tell the truth I stumbled onto Christian Chat because I was Curious about Quakerism. After he was elected I started looking for a denomination that opposed both party lines and remembered the Friends protesting outside of the White House during the Viet Nam war. After having gone to their fellowships on several occasions. Their come as you are, non ceremonial sometimes silent. Sometimes standing at random, sharing then sitting down was interesting. I took a personality test to see which denomination that I most closely fitted among and the answer was Friends. (AKA Quakers) I didn't know their doctrinal stance so I wanted to know more.

The first two responses that I received were from the Crazy Cat Lady and Magenta. She took a similar test and got a similar answer. I chose calibob as my screen name to irritate pundits that accused all Californians of being liberals. They forget that hyper conservatives like Nixon and Reagan as well as moderately conservative Arnold Schwarzenegger and Pete Wilson call Cali home.

For the record I oppose liberal morality and conservative economics. I can't call myself an independent because former Gov. Wallace and Senator Sanders did also. The former was a pro Segregationist and the other an admitted Socialist. At least Bernie admits it.

I'm more inclined to follow the first century ethics of sharing most of my valuables with others. My only personal property that I keep for myself now is; this computer, my NIV Recovery Bible, a duffel bag full of clothes a wheelchair 2 pairs of shoes and a cane some paper, pens & pencils.

No cars, Phones, radios, TV's, jewelry or other unnecessary. junk. Not even a watch. No creditors, bills, debts or mortgages either. Just a bus pass, room & board.
 

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To tell the truth I stumbled onto Christian Chat because I was Curious about Quakerism. After he was elected I started looking for a denomination that opposed both party lines and remembered the Friends protesting outside of the White House during the Viet Nam war. After having gone to their fellowships on several occasions. Their come as you are, non ceremonial sometimes silent. Sometimes standing at random, sharing then sitting down was interesting. I took a personality test to see which denomination that I most closely fitted among and the answer was Friends. (AKA Quakers) I didn't know their doctrinal stance so I wanted to know more.
2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Stances of Faiths on LGBTQ Issues: Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)

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A small denomination with approximately 80,000 adherents in the United States, the Religious Society of Friends has a history of joining struggles for peace and social justice, based on its testimonies of peace and equality.

BACKGROUND
A small denomination with approximately 80,000 adherents in the United States, the Religious Society of Friends shares common roots in a Christian movement that arose in England during the middle of the 17th century. Separations over time have resulted in different branches of Friends that emphasize different parts of this common history. Today, there are at least three distinct branches of Friends: Friends General Conference (representing “liberal” unprogrammed Quakers), Friends United Meeting (representing mostly mainline pastoral Meetings), and Friends Evangelical Friends Church International (representing the most evangelical pastoral branch).
Friends or Quaker congregations, known as communities or meetings, are almost completely autonomous. Because there is no central authority that speaks for all Quakers, modern Friends exhibit significant variations in the ways they interpret their traditions and practice their beliefs, including matters related to LGBTQ equality.

LGBTQ EQUALITY
ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION & GENDER IDENTITY

Many Quaker communities are open and welcoming to LGBTQ people, and an increasing number take the marriages and unions of LGBTQ couples under their care. Others hold differing views on a wide range of LGBTQ issues, including non-discrimination, civil marriage rights, support for families headed by LGBTQ people, and spiritual equality.
The Friends General Conference, one of three major national associations for Friends meetings and churches in the United States, issued a statement in fall 2004, “Minute on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Friends,” emphasizing that LGBTQ people were welcome in their religious community. It states,“Our experience has been that our Gatherings and Central Committee work have been immeasurably enriched over the years by the full participation and Spirit-guided leadership of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and queer Friends. We will never go back to silencing those voices or suppressing those gifts. Our experience confirms that we are all equal before God, as God made us, and we feel blessed to be engaged in the work of Friends General Conference together.”
In addition, the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC), an independent Quaker organization working nonviolently for peace, human rights and social and economic justice, has been involved in advocacy for LGBTQ rights and recognition since the 1960s. In November 1999, the AFSC board of directors issued a statement, “A Concern About Sexual and Gender Identity,” expressing their support for LGBTQ equality: “We find that claiming our full sexuality becomes a joyful act of obedience and trust in our Creator's wisdom. When we trust the expression of our sexual identity in a loving and just relationship, our reliance on and commitment to God's revealed leadings is deepened. Doing so compels a sincere and continual search for God’s way in this most intimate and undefended area of our lives. The resulting varieties of relationship and gender identity, in their complex, responsible, rich and surprising range, are a continuing reminder that God's plan is beyond human understanding."
 
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