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gb9

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Even the right wing media say there’s no fraud.

dominion voting systems has reported glitches in their machines that caused votes not to be counted, some to be switched ( for biden, of course),

so, if you care, look into that.

if not, then keep watching mainstream media, where you will hear nothing about that..
 

HoneyDew

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He's speaking live at this moment so you may have to replay the video from the beginning.
 

breno785au

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dominion voting systems has reported glitches in their machines that caused votes not to be counted, some to be switched ( for biden, of course),

so, if you care, look into that.

if not, then keep watching mainstream media, where you will hear nothing about that..
I heard about that... In the main stream media.
 

Absolutely

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Even the right wing media say there’s no fraud.
That's like saying "even top scientists believe in evolution"

Face it. A fairy tale is a fairy tale

Trying to make it true with quotes is rediculous
 

Absolutely

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He's speaking live at this moment so you may have to replay the video from the beginning.
Blah,blah,blah
You still have the fox guarding the hen house.

Get with the recount-re election IN THE DAYLIGHT.
NO MORE FRAUD!!!!!
 

HoneyDew

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Blah,blah,blah
You still have the fox guarding the hen house.

Get with the recount-re election IN THE DAYLIGHT.
NO MORE FRAUD!!!!!
The Lord sees all and he knows all. His ways are not our ways neither His thoughts our thoughts. He will have the final say and sometimes He says No.

Numbers 6:24-26

24 “‘“The Lord bless you
and keep you;
25 the Lord make his face shine on you
and be gracious to you;
26 the Lord turn his face toward you
and give you peace.”’
 

sherryt

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I’m from a red state, and even down here, folks ain’t talking about fraud. The Trump supporters I know gon move on.

I wonder if people would feel the same if the tables were turned and Pres. Trump won ??? Just wondering if they could "move on"
 

calibob

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You still have the fox guarding the hen house.
I agree, Fox being the key word Fox being extremely right wing and only reports what makes Trump look good and everybody from middle of the road to liberals are referred to as Socialists. Fox and MSNBC are not on my playlist. Trump made a big mistake when he called most major (including middle of the road) news outlets FAKE. So yes they are gunning for him and it looks like they got him.

Maybe after the rhetoric and insults stop flying and more important subjects resurface like ; The pandemic, trade deficit, the economic recovery and an abundance of high paying in manufacturing jobs instead of WALMART's. Our nation will recover like it did 90 years ago!

How? by letting the below middle class have more money to spend. They are the building blocks of our economy. It's because they spend a much higher percent of their income. Savings accounts and bogus tax write off's do not.

Inflation I agree, hurts those hoarding money. Especially in overseas banks because it devalues, however moderate inflation is good overall. Green Jobs finding viable replacement's for petro-chemical and coal fired vehicles ane electricity. The market is wide open. Those who think Trump is thee 'Daddywarbucks' should look at that crackpot :LOL:(y) Elon Musk and his car the Tesla. My landlord has a hybrid BMW, it's great. We can cruise all over Los Angeles and Orange counties without plugging in and I've never heard the generator start or run. Not a drop of fuel wasted. (I'd bet it can run on E85 also)

Welcome to the 21st century, for those of you that didn't notice; Things are changing!
 

calibob

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The Lord sees all and he knows all. His ways are not our ways neither His thoughts our thoughts. He will have the final say and sometimes He says No.

Numbers 6:24-26

24 “‘“The Lord bless you
and keep you;
25 the Lord make his face shine on you
and be gracious to you;
26 the Lord turn his face toward you
and give you peace.”’
I was taught that God has at least 3 answers to any prayer. Yes, no and wait.
 

HoneyDew

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I was taught that God has at least 3 answers to any prayer. Yes, no and wait.
So was I. My point was to just rest in Him. Sometimes we don't get the answer that we want. I see people are all over the place and angry and letting that anger get the better of them. Not you, you have remained reasonable and easy to converse with.:)
 
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lenna

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you want something to really chew on? (this is the thread for it, not the other one in which I became a nasty white woman and totally lost my sense of humor)


Dominion Ballot Counting Systems Directly Tied to Pelosi and Feinstein

Sidney Powell claims her investigative team has identified 450,000 ballots in battleground states that cast a vote only for Biden, with no other candidates voted down the ticket.

may the truth prevail in this election
 
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lenna

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I wonder if people would feel the same if the tables were turned and Pres. Trump won ??? Just wondering if they could "move on"
I think the last 4 years answers that question rather nicely :(
 
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lenna

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Maria Bartiromo: I’ve also seen reports that Nancy Pelosi’s longtime Chief of Staff is a key executive of that company. Richard Bloom, Senator Feinstein’s husband is a significant shareholder of this company.
 

sherryt

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Well, Ma’am, I’ve been living through a whole mess of stuff in the mountains of East Tennessee as well, but ain’t nothin’ gon break my spirit, whether it be no good presidents or not. Can’t fathom how y’all are blaming the variety of presidents for y’all’s miseries.
I'm sorry that you have been "going through a whole mess of stuff in the mountains of E. Tennessee" I was not stating that I was "blaming a variety of presidents for miseries" I was addressing just one. (In the Senate for longer than some have been alive and had done little to nothing to help the American people) Some of us agree/some disagree but I don't think anyone "is going to break our spirit."
 

GST

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I’ve read several posts on this topic, from ”freedom of speech is not an absolute freedom” to there is fraud in the election to there is no fraud in the election. For everyone please read Admendmet 1 of the U.S. Constitution. For those that are to lazy to look it up it up here it is. “Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Seems like it gives the right For someone to redress grievances, ie the current election which some people see this as a grievance. Did not see that if someone doesn’t like someone’s speech they can censor it. True there are safeguards with freedom of speech such as speech that incites violence. Censoring speech because someone’s disagrees with something is just simply wrong. (I don’t agree with the speech of Cuomo in New York so does that mean he Will have to shut up) It doesn’t matter if you agree with the challenges to the election or not it is a right under Admendment 1 For someone to do so. As for the person who said Freedom of Speech is not an absolute right please stop your speech, it is offensive to me As a U.S. Citizen.

I wonder how long after Biden takes the oath of office (if he is certified as the winner of the election. As of today not a single state has certified his winning the election and the Electoral College has not voted.) that the extreme left of the Democrat Party will begin a movement for the repeal of Admendment 1. (They will attack but they don’t have 67 votes in the Senate to repeal but they will try).

Will someone who says there is no fraud in the election please give me proof that there was no fraud. I probably missed the proof that there was no fraud on the news and I would like to have that info.
 

posthuman

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I’ve read several posts on this topic, from ”freedom of speech is not an absolute freedom” to there is fraud in the election to there is no fraud in the election. For everyone please read Admendmet 1 of the U.S. Constitution. For those that are to lazy to look it up it up here it is. “Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Seems like it gives the right For someone to redress grievances, ie the current election which some people see this as a grievance. Did not see that if someone doesn’t like someone’s speech they can censor it. True there are safeguards with freedom of speech such as speech that incites violence. Censoring speech because someone’s disagrees with something is just simply wrong. (I don’t agree with the speech of Cuomo in New York so does that mean he Will have to shut up) It doesn’t matter if you agree with the challenges to the election or not it is a right under Admendment 1 For someone to do so. As for the person who said Freedom of Speech is not an absolute right please stop your speech, it is offensive to me As a U.S. Citizen.

I wonder how long after Biden takes the oath of office (if he is certified as the winner of the election. As of today not a single state has certified his winning the election and the Electoral College has not voted.) that the extreme left of the Democrat Party will begin a movement for the repeal of Admendment 1. (They will attack but they don’t have 67 votes in the Senate to repeal but they will try).

Will someone who says there is no fraud in the election please give me proof that there was no fraud. I probably missed the proof that there was no fraud on the news and I would like to have that info.
friend, two points you ought to understand.

One, posting on YouTube or Facebook or Christianchat.com is not a constitutionally guaranteed right. I hat is not how 'freedom of speech' is defined. Beside the fact that those are all privately owned and operated organizations that have the freedom to do whatever they like, there are cases where you don't have freedom of speech. You can't incite violence, sedition or treason and hide behind the 1st amendment, for example.

Two, the way the law works in this nation is 'innocent until proven guilty' not the other way around. This is also a basic tenet of logical argumentation; the burden of proof lies witht the person making the extraordinary claims.


Be a Christian, not a republican or a democrat. Be wise, not a fool driven about by every wind of conspiracy and cult of personality.
 
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EleventhHour

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friend, two points you ought to understand.

One, posting on YouTube or Facebook or Christianchat.com is not a constitutionally guaranteed right. I hat is not how 'freedom of speech' is defined. Beside the fact that those are all privately owned and operated organizations that have the freedom to do whatever they like, there are cases where you don't have freedom of speech. You can't incite violence, sedition or treason and hide behind the 1st amendment, for example.

Two, the way the law works in this nation is 'innocent until proven guilty' not the other way around. This is also a basic tenet of logical argumentation; the burden of proof lies with the person making the extraordinary claims.


Be a Christian, not a republican or a democrat. Be wise, not a fool driven about by every wind of conspiracy and cult of personality.
Thank you, this is legal language we are addressing not the common vernacular of language.
 
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