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rastai

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I wonder why Pence voted for Biden and against himself and Trump?
Because it's wear the constitution says. Please, there's no conspiracy in that. If he didn't he'd be guilty of insurrection. Try taking your head out of the rabbit hole and ask God for guidance. The amount of conspiracy clinging is ungodly.
 

Smoke

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I didn’t know Qanon was trump...he didn’t seem to know who they were when asked about them and I don’t know if he knows who they are now.

They should have been rioting earlier than this..the writing was on the wall much earlier than the vote last night.

Unless...it was to taint trump and his supporters..which is why they reported it. They hate trump and his supporters..if they can make them both look bad...why not? Those people are used to violence...having spent most of last year being the most violent and lawless people.
lol... Trump said he doesn't know anything about the group in the town hall/debate, yet he proceeded to tell the moderator what they are against... Do you genuinely believe Trump had no idea what Q is? Remember when Trump said he didn't know who David Duke was? Remember when the video surfaced of him explicitly mentioning David Duke years prior? Perhaps you could use the excuse that "Trump forgot all about David Duke, he wasn't lying" because it was years prior... but Q is relatively new... unless he has the forgetfulness of Joe Biden, I don't think Trump suddenly forgot about Q.
 

Lisamn

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Can we all be objective for a minute though... Remember when Trump accused Ted Cruz's father of being associated with the assassination of JFK? If Ted Cruz DIDN'T make up with Trump and DIDN'T try to contest the certifying of state electoral votes, wouldn't you now be saying, "Ted didn't back up Trump because he's part of the deep state... his father had JFK killed!"

I know some of you would be thinking and spewing that out. I guess I just want someone to actually admit they pick and choose to believe certain narratives that fit their personal agenda. I just can't stand it.
I thought Ted backed up trump though?

Well...we are all biased towards our our opinions aren’t we? That’s why people go to certain websites and tell others the ones they go to are fake.

The truth to me seems to be that trump truly was an outsider and when he said he would drain the swamp that scared a whole bunch of people. That he couldn’t be bought off was a problem to. And I think he really did try to do the best for Americans with building a wall, cranking the economy and renegotiating a trade deal with China..which only made them hate him too.

If you noticed..any time he would go anywhere internationally..those leaders hated him too because he pulled the US out of so many bad deals...people couldn’t use and abuse us anymore and it was all do to trump. So..I think he was good for this country.
 

Lisamn

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Because it's wear the constitution says. Please, there's no conspiracy in that. If he didn't he'd be guilty of insurrection. Try taking your head out of the rabbit hole and ask God for guidance. The amount of conspiracy clinging is ungodly.
That’s refreshing...I was unsure where it was going to go when you said to take my head...

Ya..idk if he could have done it or not...its unclear to me but I didn’t really study it. I thought Lin Wood..a lawyer...was saying he could do that?
 

Smoke

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I thought Ted backed up trump though?

Well...we are all biased towards our our opinions aren’t we? That’s why people go to certain websites and tell others the ones they go to are fake.

The truth to me seems to be that trump truly was an outsider and when he said he would drain the swamp that scared a whole bunch of people. That he couldn’t be bought off was a problem to. And I think he really did try to do the best for Americans with building a wall, cranking the economy and renegotiating a trade deal with China..which only made them hate him too.

If you noticed..any time he would go anywhere internationally..those leaders hated him too because he pulled the US out of so many bad deals...people couldn’t use and abuse us anymore and it was all do to trump. So..I think he was good for this country.
Ted did. "Lying" Ted had Trump's back all the way. That wasn't my point though. I'm saying had Ted not backed up Trump, then suddenly Trump's accusation has more weight to it and it's essentially fact that his father was involved in the JFK assassination. I can guarantee you now, Trump won't ever make that accusation of Ted's father again... Why? Because Ted is on his side. The truth of Ted's fathers involvement is moot... If Ted is on his side, then Ted is good... If Ted doesnt' do as Trump wants, Ted is a member of the deep state and his father had JFK killed... do you not see this?
 

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lol... Trump said he doesn't know anything about the group in the town hall/debate, yet he proceeded to tell the moderator what they are against... Do you genuinely believe Trump had no idea what Q is? Remember when Trump said he didn't know who David Duke was? Remember when the video surfaced of him explicitly mentioning David Duke years prior? Perhaps you could use the excuse that "Trump forgot all about David Duke, he wasn't lying" because it was years prior... but Q is relatively new... unless he has the forgetfulness of Joe Biden, I don't think Trump suddenly forgot about Q.
I thought so...I don’t know who they are...so I could see it.

I didn’t see the David Duke thing either. I would imagine it would be hard to remember everything you ever said and unfortunate if you said it for the camera’s and couldn’t remember it 30 years later.
 

Smoke

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I thought so...I don’t know who they are...so I could see it.

I didn’t see the David Duke thing either. I would imagine it would be hard to remember everything you ever said and unfortunate if you said it for the camera’s and couldn’t remember it 30 years later.
Then you're putting Trump's mind on par with Joe Biden. Trump isn't an idiot as the left wants us to believe and he most certainly didn't forget who David Duke was or what Q is. I refuse to believe Trump didn't know anything about a conspiracy group when he has countless been asked prior to the debate about his views on the group... when he himself TELLS THE MODERATOR what they stand for/against. lol

That's like saying, "I don't know what guacamole is... It's made up of avocados, diced onions, diced tomatoes, diced jalapenos (if you choose), cilantro (if you choose), and lemon juice." How the heck don't you know what it is if you know what makes it up? :ROFL:
 

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Ted did. "Lying" Ted had Trump's back all the way. That wasn't my point though. I'm saying had Ted not backed up Trump, then suddenly Trump's accusation has more weight to it and it's essentially fact that his father was involved in the JFK assassination. I can guarantee you now, Trump won't ever make that accusation of Ted's father again... Why? Because Ted is on his side. The truth of Ted's fathers involvement is moot... If Ted is on his side, then Ted is good... If Ted doesnt' do as Trump wants, Ted is a member of the deep state and his father had JFK killed... do you not see this?
Didn’t trump make that accusation when they were running against each other for pres? I’m sure Ted’s said stuff about trump too..so I don’t really follow this. Ted being a career politician probably is part of the swamp....

Idk..maybe they will be friends now? Sort of like the Clintons, the Bush’s and the Obama’s?

Ted’s gonna take out trump haters is congress, is that what you are talking about? I don’t know if I see where you are going with all this.
 

rastai

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That’s refreshing...I was unsure where it was going to go when you said to take my head...

Ya..idk if he could have done it or not...its unclear to me but I didn’t really study it. I thought Lin Wood..a lawyer...was saying he could do that?
Lin Wood called on Pence to be executed. Pence has been loyal to trump but these guys want to basically execute anyone who goes against trump. I mean trump isn't Jesus so people should be free to criticize or disagree with him if they choose or feel called to without fear of calls oIf being executed. I hope more people finally recognize how dangerous this president is.
 

Lisamn

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Lin Wood called on Pence to be executed. Pence has been loyal to trump but these guys want to basically execute anyone who goes against trump. I mean trump isn't Jesus so people should be free to criticize or disagree with him if they choose or feel called to without fear of calls oIf being executed. I hope more people finally recognize how dangerous this president is.
Did he?

I guess I don’t understand how dangerous trump is? Is he worse than Bill and Hillary?
https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/...ociates-whove-died-mysteriously-check-it-out/
 

Smoke

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Didn’t trump make that accusation when they were running against each other for pres? I’m sure Ted’s said stuff about trump too..so I don’t really follow this. Ted being a career politician probably is part of the swamp....

Idk..maybe they will be friends now? Sort of like the Clintons, the Bush’s and the Obama’s?

Ted’s gonna take out trump haters is congress, is that what you are talking about? I don’t know if I see where you are going with all this.
Yeah, I apologize if I'm not making my point clear... Ted and Trump ARE buddies now. They did make up. I'm asking a hypothetical question to prove a point that the accusations only stick if it fits the listeners agenda/narrative.

Because Ted did make up with Trump, suddenly Ted's father isn't associated with the JFK assassination. You unknowingly even justified Trump making false accusations on Ted's father by saying "didn't Trump make that accusation when they were running against each other?" In other words, you're saying it doesn't really matter if Ted's father was involved or not in the assassination, what matters is that Trump said it when they were running against each other in the primary so it's okay if it's not true. Don't you see something wrong with that?
 

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He didn’t just hand the victory to Biden but has also made it impossible to get a fair election again. We see that no one is going to stop the swamp now.
Well the election process is largely a state issue so for Republican controlled states we can secure future elections by passing measures to defend against what we have now learned. So not impossible. It will almost be impossible in blue states but they are also fewest in number.
 

Lisamn

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Yeah, I apologize if I'm not making my point clear... Ted and Trump ARE buddies now. They did make up. I'm asking a hypothetical question to prove a point that the accusations only stick if it fits the listeners agenda/narrative.

Because Ted did make up with Trump, suddenly Ted's father isn't associated with the JFK assassination. You unknowingly even justified Trump making false accusations on Ted's father by saying "didn't Trump make that accusation when they were running against each other?" In other words, you're saying it doesn't really matter if Ted's father was involved or not in the assassination, what matters is that Trump said it when they were running against each other in the primary so it's okay if it's not true. Don't you see something wrong with that?
They all make accusations against each other all the time...what do you say about this?


Should she be his VP now? Does that mean what she accused him of doesn’t matter either? Yet..here she is as his VP.
 

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Well the election process is largely a state issue so for Republican controlled states we can secure future elections by passing measures to defend against what we have now learned. So not impossible. It will almost be impossible in blue states but they are also fewest in number.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adaman...ments-to-provide-election-services-2017-2019/

They are turning states blue all the time. The state I live in where once red is not blue. Looks like Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Nevada are now blue too. Are they really blue..or do they cheat with Dominion?
 

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It was a peaceful Trump demonstration, with pre-planned actors to create a desired outcome

There was no plan to take the Capitol,it was orchestrated by front line "Actors" and yes, Trump participants took part after the fire was ignited

You have peaceful pictures of supposed Trump demonstrators walking in single file through the Capitol entrance, no policing

Then you have pictures of the wrestle mania with the police

The Hollywood scenes were taken to shape public opinion, and a distraction from Rhino Republicans, that used the event to cover for their elector acceptance votes

As previously explained, the woman being shot was a Hollywood production also,asthevideo clips clearly show

Yes these pre-planned actors were wearingTrump insignia,creating the false narrative
Isn’t that how it goes...cover up, cover up...look over there..squirrel! And then the narrative changes and we never can get back to the original problem...the news just keeps moving along. Unless its something they need to do like keep people in fear and lockdown and then its a 24/7 fake narrative.
 

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NO!!!! I am VERY CLOSE to someone who ended up covid positive and almost ended up hospitalized!!!!
Someone who (was before, and still is) masked up ALL DAY, EVERYDAY in an area that they are REQUIRED.
SO, don't get me going on the D**N "mask protect others from you" propaganda. THEY DON'T! And it's the D**N demoncratic left commie wanna-bes pushing this.

Whats next? "We don't like your choice of hair color/style. Everyone MUST cover their heads in addition to the mask."
The human being was given something called a "mind," why not try using it!

From what I've read in many posts in this thread the majority of persons seem to have thrown it away!

Go and look at the scientific evidence in relation to wearing a mask and transmission rates of covid 19?

Or maybe good science is simply from the "commies!"
 
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The human being was given something called a "mind," why not try using it!

From what I've read in many posts in this thread the majority of persons seem to have thrown it away!

Go and look at the scientific evidence in relation to wearing a mask and transmission rates of covid 19?

Or maybe good science is simply from the "commies!"
Yes the commies are taking over via the dreaded mask, the ultimate expression of
control and subjugation

First Marx wrote the Mask Manifesto and then the Russian Revolution!
 
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