Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

[iamsoandso]

The "cockroach" guy has been banned.

Let's all calm down, and get back to our normal and approved levels of vitriol.

: )

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I apologize if I seemed over touchy as towards this, I actually almost reported him when he did it on the other thread but thought no everyone needs to see this. There's a comfort zone on the internet so it's a whole lot safer. But just what you saw I've had done face to face with some of these people. I have to fit that all somewhere in my mind though and hope I can avoid confrontation as things progress. It's difficult to live this in the real world and it's hard to explain over the www so I'll just leave it there for now...

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

The "cockroach" guy has been banned.

Let's all calm down, and get back to our normal and approved levels of vitriol.

: )

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Not to defend him, because I disagreed with a lot of things he believed, and I don't think he thought about how he was speaking about the subject, but he isn't totally wrong. While I do not believe that everyone coming illegally are "cockroaches" many of the ones that have been allowed into our country are the underbelly of society. Let's go down the middle here and not act like Nancy with her "spark of the divine" comment. Yes. Some of the people coming are being trafficked, some are being used. But all, as in all are illegal, they are breaking the law coming into the country. But then we have the two, call whatever name you will, less than animals that took a young girl, tortured her and left her body in the dirt. We have a mother of five, murdered. A young girl raped. So I guess we're back to "there are good people" but even the "good" people are breaking the law and should be sent back to wherever they came from.

 

[maxwel]

I apologize if I seemed over touchy as towards this, I actually almost reported him when he did it on the other thread but thought no everyone needs to see this. There's a comfort zone on the internet so it's a whole lot safer. But just what you saw I've had done face to face with some of these people. I have to fit that all somewhere in my mind though and hope I can avoid confrontation as things progress. It's difficult to live this in the real world and it's hard to explain over the www so I'll just leave it there for now...

We're discussing difficult things.
We're all touchy about some of these topics.
But then some guy comes in and tosses a hand grenade.
That was too much... for all of us.

God Bless

 

[gb9]

We're discussing difficult things.
We're all touchy about some of these topics.
But then some guy comes in and tosses a hand grenade.
That was too much... for all of us.

God Bless

and that is why he is no longer here...

 

[NightTwister]

Fact-checking CLaims from Biden and Trump during the first 2024 debate.

LOL @CBS "Fact Check"

 

[Mem]

We should do an exercise in 'cleansing our palate' in order to get rid of the bacteria that...(lol, the fill-in feature wrote the last five words for me I had to leave it as is!) ...messes with our sense of taste. Everyone should take a good swish of listfulrine [sic] and say something, just one thing good about each former president, regardless of whether he is the has been or if he were the would be.
I'll start by defending Biden...

the first moment Biden sounded confused, Biden was saying that if... the 1000 billions paid 24% or 25% of the taxes then......if...we'd finally beat Medicare.

It really wasn't (meant as) a statement of fact that "we finally beat Medicare."
Just trying to keep this all as close to reality as possible.

 

[ZNP]

We should do an exercise in 'cleansing our palate' in order to get rid of the bacteria that...(lol, the fill-in feature wrote the last five words for me I had to leave it as is!) ...messes with our sense of taste. Everyone should take a good swish of listfulrine [sic] and say something, just one thing good about each former president, regardless of whether he is the has been or if he were the would be.
I'll start by defending Biden...

the first moment Biden sounded confused, Biden was saying that if... the 1000 billions paid 24% or 25% of the taxes then......if...we'd finally beat Medicare.

It really wasn't (meant as) a statement of fact that "we finally beat Medicare."
Just trying to keep this all as close to reality as possible.

I think Biden's administration these last 3 1/2 years has been great for the gospel. I think there are many people who for one reason or another have turned to the Lord. It could be because they are broke, or they lost their job, or their city has become much more dangerous, or they are concerned about a nuclear war. Whatever it is, I think that Biden's administration will work out for good to those that love God and are called according to purpose.

 

[Mem]

I think Biden's administration these last 3 1/2 years has been great for the gospel. I think there are many people who for one reason or another have turned to the Lord. It could be because they are broke, or they lost their job, or their city has become much more dangerous, or they are concerned about a nuclear war. Whatever it is, I think that Biden's administration will work out for good to those that love God and are called according to purpose.

At least you tried. Here is a participation award.

 

[iamsoandso]

We should do an exercise in 'cleansing our palate' in order to get rid of the bacteria that...(lol, the fill-in feature wrote the last five words for me I had to leave it as is!) ...messes with our sense of taste. Everyone should take a good swish of listfulrine [sic] and say something, just one thing good about each former president, regardless of whether he is the has been or if he were the would be.
I'll start by defending Biden...

the first moment Biden sounded confused, Biden was saying that if... the 1000 billions paid 24% or 25% of the taxes then......if...we'd finally beat Medicare.

It really wasn't (meant as) a statement of fact that "we finally beat Medicare."
Just trying to keep this all as close to reality as possible.

I was waiting for DT to say something the first time or two Biden did that but if you watch his facial expressions I think he was actually shocked because he didn't say anything until after the third or so time. At first I thought it was a thing where DT knew he himself was just 3.5 years younger than Biden and didn't want to bring attention to his own age but I think he was just going to let it go until it was just so obvious.

 

[Mem]

I was waiting for DT to say something the first time or two Biden did that but if you watch his facial expressions I think he was actually shocked because he didn't say anything until after the third or so time. At first I thought it was a thing where DT knew he himself was just 3.5 years younger than Biden and didn't want to bring attention to his own age but I think he was just going to let it go until it was just so obvious.

I want to go back and just to look at Trump's initial reactions now and try to discern his thoughts about what is going on. It's a certainty that the Bad Lip-Reading channel will put out with their latest work with this debate generating the material, probably currently in the making because there's no recent postings atm. I can hardly wait.

 

[iamsoandso]

I want to go back and just to look at Trump's initial reactions now and try to discern his thoughts about what is going on. It's a certainty that the Bad Lip-Reading channel will put out with their latest work with this debate generating the material, probably currently in the making because there's no recent postings atm. I can hardly wait.

It made me wonder what he was thinking but Yea he made some really puzzled faces at first.

 

[Mem]

It made me wonder what he was thinking but Yea he made some really puzzled faces at first.

I wonder if at first he thought, "am I losing my mind and/or hearing...or...?" and then by the time he did speak up he'd got to, "ok, no... it's definitely him"

 

[iamsoandso]

I wonder if at first he thought, "am I losing my mind and/or hearing...or...?" and then by the time he did speak up he'd got to, "ok, no... it's definitely him"

I know when I was hovering around 80 and saw other people that old do different things my instinct was more like I saw a ghost or my reflection in the mirror. We always wonder what it will be like so to speak but jabbing fun at it never crossed my mind(I don't think it crossed DT's either I think he was genuinely shocked,compassion ect.).

 

[Mem]

I know when I was hovering around 80 and saw other people that old do different things my instinct was more like I saw a ghost or my reflection in the mirror. We always wonder what it will be like so to speak but jabbing fun at it never crossed my mind(I don't think it crossed DT's either I think he was genuinely shocked,compassion ect.).

I agree, although I'm not sure how to word it. DT wasn't so insensitive that he'd think nothing of trampling on Biden's right to dignity. And I don't suppose that JB had consciously given over that right as someone that is fully aware would do in deliberately misleading the people. Looking back from this point, I don't believe it actually was JB's idea to run in 2020 but was 'convinced' to run, by being 'assured' that he was the 'right' man. After all, he'd always been more than a little 'off.'

 

[Nehemiah6]

The error was to insinuate that migrants of all races were spilling over the border in caravans when it was an exaggeration to gain votes[/QUOTE]How can that be an "exaggeration" when we all have seen pictures of hordes of illegals flooding into the USA? Or have you not seen them?

So take a look at this article:
Fmr. Obama ICE Director on Migrant Crime: Problem Is ‘Sheer Volume’ at Border, ‘Hard’ to Determine Who’s Dangerous
On Wednesday’s broadcast of “NewsNation Now,” John Sandweg, who served as acting ICE Director under President Obama, commented on recent crimes where the suspects were in the country illegally, and specifically the Jocelyn Nungaray case, by stating that “the bottom line here is the problem is the sheer volume of people coming across the border” and that the volume, coupled with a lack of resources to detain people, means that the government has to make judgment calls about who’s a threat and that’s “incredibly hard.”
Fmr. Obama ICE Director on Migrant Crime: Problem Is 'Sheer Volume' at Border, 'Hard' to Determine Who's Dangerous (breitbart.com)
Did you get that? "Sheer Volume". He does talk about "millions" but doe not say how many millions to support his "sheer volume" comment.
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More Than 170,000 Illegal Immigrants at Border in May, Says CBP Data (breitbart.com)

That is in one month. In 3 1/2 years that is 42 months. Let's simplify the numbers, so that 200,000 x 42 = 8,400,000.

But the actual estimate are more like 10-20 million, since who is actually counting those who sneak in? And the ones flown into the country illegally by Biden. The counts are always conservative and never realistic, where they say "This is low-balling the numbers".

But for you this is an "exaggeration". And what of all the rapes, and murders which have been committed while the perps go scot-free? Even one such heinous crime should have been reason enough to totally shut down that border.

No. Mayorkas says he has created an app to ensure that they keep pouring in . And the Dems blocked the impeachment of Mayorkas. How evil is that?

 

[ZNP]

At least you tried. Here is a participation award.

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou!

 

[ZNP]

I know when I was hovering around 80 and saw other people that old do different things my instinct was more like I saw a ghost or my reflection in the mirror. We always wonder what it will be like so to speak but jabbing fun at it never crossed my mind(I don't think it crossed DT's either I think he was genuinely shocked,compassion ect.).

I thought he was unusually restrained about not insulting people, probably trying to win over a few never Trumpers, but I also think he intentionally threw in a bunch of lies, mistruths, or things you would expect Biden to pounce on. That exposed how slow and dimwitted Biden is. Apparently Biden was given the questions before hand so he had prepared his answers but was unable to adjust on the fly and trying to remember his answer while also trying to respond to what Trump said would cause him to freeze and shut down.

 

[Jimbone]

I already did there was not one Black,Hispanic ect.(Minority) holding the confederate flag in their hand in any of the Jan. 6 photos. If you look at the photos real close you would realize they were not even there.

You're full of $#!+. Excuse the extreme tone here, but there's no better word for what just came out of your mouth. I was there in DC in person walking the streets. I saw the now infamous "March peacefully and patriotically to the Capital" speech in real life. One of the things that shocked me was the number of black and brown people there supporting Trump. I'd guess 1 in 6 people I saw there were black. The fact that you claim to follow the Truth, our Lord Jesus, yet are here spewing leftist propaganda lies the way you are makes me sick. You are a liar and have no idea what you're talking about concerning this specific claim. So now you know and have been made aware by an actual witness, please stop lying and maybe do more research than what the "TV tells you".

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I already did there was not one Black,Hispanic ect.(Minority) holding the confederate flag in their hand in any of the Jan. 6 photos. If you look at the photos real close you would realize they were not even there.

You saw what the Dems wanted you to see on Jan 6 th, it's just that simple. Looking for truth would be a waste of time. You saw their truth, that was all.

 

[ZNP]

You're full of $#!+. Excuse the extreme tone here, but there's no better word for what just came out of your mouth. I was there in DC in person walking the streets. I saw the now infamous "March peacefully and patriotically to the Capital" speech in real life. One of the things that shocked me was the number of black and brown people there supporting Trump. I'd guess 1 in 6 people I saw there were black. The fact that you claim to follow the Truth, our Lord Jesus, yet are here spewing leftist propaganda lies the way you are makes me sick. You are a liar and have no idea what you're talking about concerning this specific claim. So now you know and have been made aware by an actual witness, please stop lying and maybe do more research than what the "TV tells you".

I don't think he was saying that people of all shades don't support Trump, I think what he was saying is that if you are a racist bigot from the Jim Crow days that these guys and no doubt this country does have some, these guys are going to support Trump not Biden.