Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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Niki7

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Gojira said:
Because the church is not doing its job these days :)

We are also in need of a new great awakening.
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You know, I have heard over and over about 'the awakening...always going to happen

I'm not holding my breath and yes, that is what I said concerning 'church'...BUT Christians in North America anyway not third world so God will not hold them accountable.....have BIBLES which seem to collect more dust that adherents with regards to study and belief leading to actions
 
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Even Big Foot won't vote for Joe Biden

 
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Lee Zeldin didn't do badly in the last governor's race, but that a hardcore Leftist still won is not giving me much hope for the wisdom of NYers.
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Lee Zeldin lost because he lacked conviction and/or a team with conviction. Hochul ate him alive in the economic debate, because he was not prepared to discuss the negative impacts of abortion on the economy and paint a picture of a better pro-life economy. He is from NY and he should've known the debate would go in that direction.

If conservatives in NY continue to use the excuse for losing that we are simply outnumbered then all hope is lost. Our leaders need to be persuasive and win people to our side- or they might as well stay home and save their families the trouble.
 
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Lee Zeldin lost because he lacked conviction and/or a team with conviction. Hochul ate him alive in the economic debate, because he was not prepared to discuss the negative impacts of abortion on the economy and paint a picture of a better pro-life economy. He is from NY and he should've known the debate would go in that direction.
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I missed that but it would be a simple matter to compare NY at the time of Roe v Wade and today. NYC was the biggest and most influential city at that time and since then has seen a steady decline. The number of people living in poverty has increased, the ranking of our school system has fallen greatly, so much so that the inner city public schools rank far below 38th in the world despite having close to the highest funding per student.

NYC at the time of Roe v. Wade was when Norman Rockwell was painting his pictures. That was an accurate depiction of America and yet today it is synonymous with mythology.

Talk about the Crack epidemic in NY and go through some of the issues they have had with murder and compare them with other cities. They will argue that the decrease in per capita murders is due to abortion but it is simple to prove that things like 911, and modern forensics have had a much bigger impact and that on the contrary abortion has made America poorer, with more single mothers and children born into poverty.
 
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Susanna said:
Mr Carlson seems to be held in high regard by Russian media. He comes across as a useful pawn for Putin.
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Since Tucker Carlson stands for free speech and freedom, how could he possibly be a pawn for Putin. Putin is essentially a dictator, and now Biden has also become one. In fact, if you compare pathological liar Biden and autocratic Putin, the latter comes across as more honest.
 
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That’s the goal of Russian disinformation. Make Putin shine like a beacon of light in a dark world.
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What's worse? Blatant disinformation from America -- which was at one time a beacon of liberty and justice for all -- or disinformation from Russia, which was always against liberty and justice?

What about the "Russian Collusion Hoax"? USA Today is no fan of Trump, but here is what they said:
Trump was right: 'Russian collusion' was a hoax. Good luck regaining public's trust.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...s-trump-fbi-russia-investigation/70222344007/
"After four years, we finally have the full 316-page report from Justice Department special counsel John Durham, and it’s a damning indictment of some of our country’s leading institutions. Durham said the FBI should have never launched an investigation into alleged Russian collusion with Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, given the slim evidence. That is a huge win for Trump, who has for years called out his unfair treatment by the FBI – and a media all too willing to find blame in the former president’s actions."

So let's not talk about Russian disinformation? Putin's point of view is how he views the West. And much of what he has said against the West is true. Who is amassing 90,000 troops to provoke Russia?
 
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Cameron143 said:
God is going to choose someone. Israel objected to Cyrus as their deliverer. Didn't phase God a bit.
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IMO Trump Is getting dEmonic spiritual help.
As unGODly as Trump Is,many Christians are choosing him rather than a different republican.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
Lee Zeldin lost because he lacked conviction and/or a team with conviction. Hochul ate him alive in the economic debate, because he was not prepared to discuss the negative impacts of abortion on the economy and paint a picture of a better pro-life economy. He is from NY and he should've known the debate would go in that direction.

If conservatives in NY continue to use the excuse for losing that we are simply outnumbered then all hope is lost. Our leaders need to be persuasive and win people to our side- or they might as well stay home and save their families the trouble.
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We do lack fight. The Dems know how to play the game and how to fight. Our side does not... which is why I'm voting for Trump. He fights.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
IMO Trump Is getting dEmonic spiritual help.
As unGODly as Trump Is,many Christians are choosing him rather than a different republican.
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You don't care for Trump. I get it. But neither are you able to see the bigger picture. Your understanding of our times, in my opinion, is considerably lacking. If things get crazy and chaos ensues, I hope you have a friend who is a prepper.
 
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Many people say that the evacuation of Vietnam in 1975 was the beginning of the fall of the US and for the last 49 years we have been sliding into the abyss. I disagree. I think the slide had to begin prior to that otherwise why are we surrendering? I would say that the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 was the beginning of the slide. In January we have the Roe v Wade decision and in March we leave Vietnam 1973.

Depending on the calendar (Gregorian or Hebrew), the 50th year ends on March 29th this year or April 4th.
 
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You don't care for Trump. I get it. But neither are you able to see the bigger picture. Your understanding of our times, in my opinion, is considerably lacking. If things get crazy and chaos ensues, I hope you have a friend who is a prepper.
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IMO Y O U are the one not seeing the bigger picture,but then again maybe you want the constitution of the UNITED States to change,thats the only thing that I can see,maybe people are just not looking at
the possible C O N S E Q U E N C E S of a Trump presidency.
 
Nehemiah6

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seed_time_harvest said:
people are just not looking at the possible C O N S E Q U E N C E S of a Trump presidency.
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So you have bought the lies of the Communists against Trump. "OH! TRUMP WILL DESTROY DEMOCRACY". Which is total nonsense. and a projection of the fact that Biden is the one destroying democracy and America. And people like you are helping with the destruction.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
IMO Y O U are the one not seeing the bigger picture,but then again maybe you want the constitution of the UNITED States to change,thats the only thing that I can see,maybe people are just not looking at
the possible C O N S E Q U E N C E S of a Trump presidency.
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I believe just the opposite. When laws are disobeyed, the constitution has already been abrogated. Biden has refused to enforce the laws at the border, in dealings with Iran, and used his influence to secure money for himself and his family. He has committed treason on a number of levels. In doing so, he has placed every citizen in this nation at risk.

I recognize you don't see any of this. What I don't understand is why. You seem like a nice caring person. You seem to have a genuine interest in the things of God. But you are no son of Isachar.
 
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Cameron143 said:
I believe just the opposite. When laws are disobeyed, the constitution has already been abrogated. Biden has refused to enforce the laws at the border, in dealings with Iran, and used his influence to secure money for himself and his family. He has committed treason on a number of levels. In doing so, he has placed every citizen in this nation at risk.

I recognize you don't see any of this. What I don't understand is why. You seem like a nice caring person. You seem to have a genuine interest in the things of God. But you are no son of Isachar.
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Isaiah 6:10
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Make the heart of this people dull, and their ears heavy, and blind their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.”
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Maybe the only way you will understand Is If Donald Trump wins and destroys the constitution
of A M E R I C A.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
Isaiah 6:10
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Make the heart of this people dull, and their ears heavy, and blind their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.”
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Maybe the only way you will understand Is If Donald Trump wins and destroys the constitution
of A M E R I C A.
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That's a great verse. I truly hope that God not only gives you the understanding of it as well as who it applies to.
Grace and peace.
 
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Cameron143 said:
You don't care for Trump. I get it. But neither are you able to see the bigger picture. Your understanding of our times, in my opinion, is considerably lacking. If things get crazy and chaos ensues, I hope you have a friend who is a prepper.
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Wholeheartedly agree.

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