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queen_of_stars

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I have been married for 2 years and me and my husband separated for a month. When we both decided to separate i told him that he could do whatever he wanted and I too will do whatever i want until we knew if we were going to get back together.I did not mention sleeping with other people because i thought it was not going to happen. My husband took that word by word and I recently found out he slept with another woman. Is this considered cheating even if we were separated? and i told him he could do whatever he wanted? We are now getting a divorce and we have a newborn. God is my witness that before this I was trying to get back together because i love him and because i wanted to give my child a home.
 
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jeff325

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If you love him, why not forgive him? Does he truly love you?
 
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jeff325

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I'll admit it I am a sinner. about 2 years ago me and my girlfriend split up. I started seeing another woman. Well at the time I truly thought that Sabrina and I were through. So I started seeing a old friend. Well to make a long story short, we ended up getting back together. We love each other and we are not going to let that stop what we have.
 
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Jullianna

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jeff, sounds like you were the person to answer this question. I'm glad things worked out for you.

queen of stars, If your husband wants to get back together with you and you are willing to forgive him, you could have something wonderful with your child. Yes, if he was married, it was wrong, but are you willing to let unforgiveness steal from you?

God bless you :)
 
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lordsservant121

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I have been married for 2 years and me and my husband separated for a month. When we both decided to separate i told him that he could do whatever he wanted and I too will do whatever i want until we knew if we were going to get back together.I did not mention sleeping with other people because i thought it was not going to happen. My husband took that word by word and I recently found out he slept with another woman. Is this considered cheating even if we were separated? and i told him he could do whatever he wanted? We are now getting a divorce and we have a newborn. God is my witness that before this I was trying to get back together because i love him and because i wanted to give my child a home.
I know it is painful but that will go away. How did you find out? Did your husband tell you? I ask because that would give insight on how to handle the situation. Case in point, my Ex divorced me and said it was my fault but she was dating another guy while we were married. I found out through a friend after the fact but now everything she says when we do talk, I have to take with a grain of sand. I am always thinking she is lying about my daughter and it effects my relationship with her. If he "came clean" it means because he wanted to be honest with you. If you "found out" he probably hoped you never would. Pray about it and you will kow what to do. GOD bless.

After reading this let me say this is just my take from my experiences. Hope it helps.
 
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queen_of_stars

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yeah i found out..later i found out by his sister, who isn't happy with him, that he was planning to tell me and c if i would forgive him. I was mad and told him i was going to start the divorce papers and he did nothing to stop me. he did say that it was probably the best thing for us. he is already out there partying...i DO plan to talk to him but later on. Right now i'm hurt and do not think if we get back right now that we will have a healthy relationship.But thanx for the advice. I do want to forgive him but then he probably wont learn his lesson? i like that verse lordservant...
 
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queen_of_stars

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i asked if he still had feelings and he said no...
 
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eric135

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i asked if he still had feelings and he said no...
It's probably best then to let him go. If he doesn't love or care about you now, even after he cheated on you, then he likely won't care about you moving forward. You are better off finding a Christian guy that cares about you instead of trying to fix what seems to be quite broken.
 
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Jullianna

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So sorry to read your update, queen. It's all in the Lord's hands. Trust Him to choose the right person to help you raise your little one.
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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So the two of you separated, during which you gave him permission to do whatever he wants. But then you get mad at him for doing something you gave him permission to do and instigate a divorce. Now it also seems that you're upset that he didn't try to stop you from going through with the divorce process that you indicated you wanted. And you're reluctant to forgive him, because he won't learn his lesson. But what lesson is that?

I'm not trying to point any of this out or say anything to get on your case or upset you, but it sounds like you've taken all the wrong steps throughout this ordeal. I'm not saying that he hasn't taken wrong steps too, it sounds like he has. But the whole thing looks rather tragic in that it could have probably been avoided had you (1) not given him permission to do whatever he wants, (2) not said you want a divorce, and (3) forgiven him.

It looks like you didn't want him to do "whatever he wanted." But when you say this to a husband or to a boyfriend it tells them that you don't plan on acting like the two of you are in a relationship anymore and you don't care if he does either. Now if the guy is your husband and wants to do the right thing, he should just focus on being faithful to his side of the wedding vows. So it doesn't justify his actions, but you don't really have any justification for complaining on your part either.

When you said you wanted a divorce, then you can't really be upset if he doesn't try to stop you because he is just giving you what you say you want and maybe what he wants too. Again, this doesn't justify his actions because he shouldn't want a divorce. But then it doesn't justify your complaint because you shouldn't want one either and shouldn't say you do if you don't.

Finally, withholding forgiveness will never teach someone the lesson we want them to learn. Having been forgiven by Christ, we are responsible to forgive others (not use un-forgiveness as a tool to manipulate people).

If you really want this relationship to work it sounds like you might have to swallow your pride and tell him you do love him, you don't want a divorce, you're sorry for telling him he could do whatever he wants, you're willing to forgive him (or try to anyway), and ask him if he loves you too and will stay. (After all, he might be saying that he doesn't love you even though he doesn't mean it in the same way you appear to have instigated a divorce even though you don't want it.)

Again, I'm not trying to say any of this in a spirit of condemnation. But this looks like a bad case of people saying things they don't really mean and then continuing to say things they don't really mean because they get hurt that people took their words seriously.
 
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ashleyisafreak

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So the two of you separated, during which you gave him permission to do whatever he wants. But then you get mad at him for doing something you gave him permission to do and instigate a divorce. Now it also seems that you're upset that he didn't try to stop you from going through with the divorce process that you indicated you wanted. And you're reluctant to forgive him, because he won't learn his lesson. But what lesson is that?

I'm not trying to point any of this out or say anything to get on your case or upset you, but it sounds like you've taken all the wrong steps throughout this ordeal. I'm not saying that he hasn't taken wrong steps too, it sounds like he has. But the whole thing looks rather tragic in that it could have probably been avoided had you (1) not given him permission to do whatever he wants, (2) not said you want a divorce, and (3) forgiven him.

It looks like you didn't want him to do "whatever he wanted." But when you say this to a husband or to a boyfriend it tells them that you don't plan on acting like the two of you are in a relationship anymore and you don't care if he does either. Now if the guy is your husband and wants to do the right thing, he should just focus on being faithful to his side of the wedding vows. So it doesn't justify his actions, but you don't really have any justification for complaining on your part either.

When you said you wanted a divorce, then you can't really be upset if he doesn't try to stop you because he is just giving you what you say you want and maybe what he wants too. Again, this doesn't justify his actions because he shouldn't want a divorce. But then it doesn't justify your complaint because you shouldn't want one either and shouldn't say you do if you don't.

Finally, withholding forgiveness will never teach someone the lesson we want them to learn. Having been forgiven by Christ, we are responsible to forgive others (not use un-forgiveness as a tool to manipulate people).

If you really want this relationship to work it sounds like you might have to swallow your pride and tell him you do love him, you don't want a divorce, you're sorry for telling him he could do whatever he wants, you're willing to forgive him (or try to anyway), and ask him if he loves you too and will stay. (After all, he might be saying that he doesn't love you even though he doesn't mean it in the same way you appear to have instigated a divorce even though you don't want it.)

Again, I'm not trying to say any of this in a spirit of condemnation. But this looks like a bad case of people saying things they don't really mean and then continuing to say things they don't really mean because they get hurt that people took their words seriously.
Really? He was still married. He should know better not to sleep with another woman. You can't say that he was in the right to do that because his wife told him that he could do whatever. GOD still says not to cheat. I don't think there are any pride issues... She wants to be with him and he doesn't want to be with her. It's sad and it's not God's plan for marriage, but it's life.
And my parents are divorced. After the divorce things really got better for me so I'm in no way opposed to divorce as long as there are Biblical grounds for it (cheating, abuse, if one is constantly living in sin, that kind of stuff).

I wish you the best of luck. Remember that God is sovereign and has a plan. It's not like he's up there shaking his head thinking 'oh now what do I do... that didn't work out...'
He'll work everything out for your good. Just keep your eyes set on him!
 
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lightbliss

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Really? He was still married. He should know better not to sleep with another woman. You can't say that he was in the right to do that because his wife told him that he could do whatever. GOD still says not to cheat.
Right on point. Whatever we say and/or do, God's word still holds true (wasn't meaning for this to rhyme :p).

If the two of you were/are separated, it is still considered cheating.

Perhaps you shouldn't have said that he could do whatever he wanted to but I think his actions proved where his heart was/is at.

I don't think having a relationship with someone that'll easily move on (if the two of you were in a serious/committed relationship) is great. Some people don't get the chance to find out rough qualities about their partners until hard times.

Yes, it's important to have him in your child's life but if you know he'll automatically be with someone else once things become sour, well, do you really want that? Someone who'll easily leave without putting a fight (not violence)?

Of course, you can always work things out but I think it's important to PRAY and keep your well-being and that of your child's in mind.

God Bless :)
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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Really? He was still married. He should know better not to sleep with another woman. You can't say that he was in the right to do that because his wife told him that he could do whatever.
I didn't say that he was in the right. In fact, I said the exact opposite. I said:
I'm not saying that he hasn't taken wrong steps too, it sounds like he has.

And later on in my post I said:
...if the guy is your husband and wants to do the right thing, he should just focus on being faithful to his side of the wedding vows. So it doesn't justify his actions...

So I agree with you, he should have known better. That's considering the situation on his side of things. But I was mainly concerned with evaluating the situation from the wife's side of things. From her side of things, she shouldn't tell her husband that he can do whatever he wants to do. And if she does tell him that, she can't complain when he does something she has given him permission to do.

Remember the story of Abraham and Sarah? This looks like a situation that has some analogies to that. Sarah told Abraham that he could sleep with Hagar. But then Sarah latter regretted that she said that and made Abraham send Hagar and Ishmael away.

Concerning Abraham, he shouldn't have slept with Hagar. He should have had faith that God would fulfill his promise just like he said he would. But concerning Sarah, she shouldn't have offered him Hagar in the first place. And once she did, it was childish of her to get jealous.

I don't think there are any pride issues...
The reason I suspect there are pride issues is because the whole scenario sort of reminds me of those grade school arguments where Tommy takes something from Billy and Billy says "I don't want to be your friend anymore!" and then Tommy says "Fine! I don't want to be your friend either!" and Tommy says this even though he really does want to be Billy's friend. Well if Tommy really does want to be Billy's friend, why did he say he doesn't? Because his pride was hurt in the "you can't fire me, because I quite!" sort of way.

She wants to be with him and he doesn't want to be with her.
I agree that she wants to be with him. But then why did she tell him that he can do whatever he wants? That's not something you say to someone you want to be with (in a romantic way). And why did she tell him she was going to file for divorce? Again, that's not something you say to someone that you don't actually want to divorce. Ergo, it's a pride issue. That's my take on it anyway. And you can no more conclude that he doesn't want to be with her than you can conclude that she doesn't want to be with him, even though she started the divorce process... Maybe his pride has been hurt too and he's just returning the favor in saying he doesn't lover her.