Anyone else cant get friends?

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TabinRivCA

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Im already in bible study groups and even pray meetings. I have no problem getting accepted into such groups. However, nobody wants to know me personally, in private way. I already tried to befriend many born-again christians, i failed with everyone.
The one thing where people would have to interact with you is anything volunteer related. Make sure it's something that requires more than 1 person. Look up group things in your area. Here the hospitals around me are always looking for volunteers for various duties. Are you good at rocking and feeding babies,lol? I know someone who does that.
 
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Partly what Lynx said. Or to paraphrase what CS Lewis said in the 4 loves.... people who just want friends can't make them because there's nothing for the friendship to be about.

I'd probably also say that the negative self talk needs to stop. Yes I'd love to have people contacting me and inviting me to do more stuff, but if you want to do stuff with people take the initiative. Also don't think that they stopped talking to you because of you. A zillion things can happen in life that especially your online friends don't know about.

I didn't become less active on CC do to any specific member or interaction with them. I became less active because I started teaching a Bible study and it took up a lot of time. I haven't called my board gaming friends from my old church, not because of anything personal against them, but because life happens and we just don't have that weekly connection anymore.

What I've learned from my own life is that some people find other people fascinating, they usually end up with a lot of friends because they genuinely want to know about people. Then there's people like me who aren't really interested in what you're saying until you propose a theory or idea they can pick apart and debate and discuss or a problem to solve. They tend to have fewer friends in general and even then the friendships don't get personal.

And if all else fails, start with a dog who will love you just for feeding it and taking it for walks and giving it some attention. Also if you get a dog that loves everyone they're a great conversation starter if you take it out to a public place for a walk you will meet all the other dog lovers who talk to your dog through you.

I do take initiative. Not working for me. Also i have plenty of hobbies.

I actually find people facinating, im a very curious person. And yet, still not working for me.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Not sure if this is the wrong part of the forum to write about this.

But yeah.

I have not had a friend for a very long time. Im currently 31, had my last friend when i was about 15. So it was a long time ago.

I tried befriend many, both males and females, christians and non-christians alike. But it never works. IRL everyone always avoids and ignores me.

On internet its a little bit better, some talk to me but its always dies out after a week or 2. They always stop writing to me and never responds again.

I am very self-aware, so im really trying to anaylize why i keep failing. Im not behaving bad.
So it cant be that. So the only reason must be that im very dumb and have low iq, i have
no idea how to talk to people. I actually read many books about how to "improve" your iq and
improve your social skills, biut it has not worked for me. So i must so dumb and have such a low iq thats impossible for me to improve to acceptable level. Which means i will
keep being friendless until the day i die.

I heard people say "someone will accept you" and "just be nice and people will love you your heart". But as i said, im not mean to people. I care for people. I have compassion. And yet,
nobody liked me for 16 years. So something must be wrong with my brain.

I prayed to God about this many many times. But he is not helping. God can do everything,
But i dont think he improves people IQ. Its not how he works. I guess he gave me
this lonely life for a reason. Not sure why yet. Maybe he wants me for himself.
In a world of self absorbed and ultra busy people who habe their face shoved so deep in favebook that real socialization isnt even a reality. I doubt its you. I think its a social issue where culture has exchanged reality for virtual reality.
 

Lynx

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I do take initiative. Not working for me. Also i have plenty of hobbies.

I actually find people facinating, im a very curious person. And yet, still not working for me.
All the friendships I ever had were not made intentionally. I found them along the way.

A friend is not a dog or a car or a laptop, something you go out and get. A friend is someone you find and you happen to become friends.

Or at least that's how it always happens with me.
 

Lynx

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Maybe you're trying too hard. If you deliberately try to start a friendship, you can appear needy and people will avoid you. Maybe you're working against yourself here.

Maybe just live life. If something happens, it happens. If not, keep living life. Life has some good things, even if you don't have a single friend.
 
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Not being mean and the other things you mentioned are only the first step onto making friends. But it doesn't end there.

I see you frequently put yourself down. Is this normal for you to do in front of others? If so that could be one deterrent to making friends. Sure we may all have moments where we feel like thar, but if it is the norm for you people will avoid you.
Many simply don't want to be around such negativity for very long.
Some may see it as your fishing for compliments, which people dislike.
Others may come around believing they can help, and when they can't, they move on.

Your inability to come to a rational conclusion, and instead are convinced it's an IQ thing shows your inability to recognize and diagnose personal issues in a healthy and balanced manner.
This affects the way you approach and interact with people, likely in a negative way.
It also prohibits any real personal or social growth as your focus is in the wrong area.

You falsely believe that everyone that doesn't stick around does so because of a fault within you. This, again, negatively affects the way you approach and interact with people.
The reality is most of the people any of us will meet won't stick around. There are too many variables to get into why this is so, but it's pretty normal for everyone, not just you.
And this is especially true online. Most people aren't online to seek out long term, lasting friendships but for some generalized social interaction. It's true people can form friendships this way, but those are formed naturally and often unexpectedly.

Which brings us to the next point, the more you seek friends the more you're likely to push to become friends with people, and this will actually drive people away. They'll sense the major imbalance in the relationship, or feel pressured, and not want to continue.
Friendships form naturally based on connection, not forced by someone trying to fulfill a personal need.

And that touches on the likelihood that by now your motive for friendship is more about You and getting what you want than it is on two people sharing a mutual connection. And, again, this will affect the way you interact with and approach people. And in turn how they respond to you.

It may be possible you're lacking in some social skills that's making it harder for you to connect. And you may not be able to recognize that lack.
Or any of the issues mentioned (or something I haven't mentioned) above may be driving people away.

I used to have trouble holding onto friends. And I started down the "woe is me" path, much like you're doing.
But eventually I had stopped pitying myself and took a long hard look at myself, the way I behaved, spoke, etc...
And I began to consider some of the complaints about myself I heard from friends over the years. Especially ones that came up repeatedly.
As well as thinking about those same behaviors I saw in others and how they affected how I felt towards the people exhibiting them.

What I learned was some things I didn't believe mattered or affected my friendships actually Did affect them.
I began to see some negative traits I was unaware of that I exhibited towards my friends.
And as I began recognizing and accepting that these things were there and existed and I was responsible for, as well as seeing how they affected others, I also began to try to change them.
This meant treating my friends differently, speaking differently, being more patient, not always speaking so negatively (including about myself).
It wasn't easy, especially accepting and owning some of these behaviors I had spent many years denying. But I did improve, as did my relationships.

Now there's plenty for you to digest and consider. And not one piece of it has Anything to do with IQ.
No, i never put myself down infront of others.

I have taken a long very hard look at myself, trust me. Only wrong with me is that i cant talk to people, i litterly have no idea.
People always gets bored of me and think im a weirdo etc. Its the same IRL and on internet.

Also my bad looks also plays a part in it, im 1 of 10 on the look scale. People gets disgusted by my looks.
 
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The one thing where people would have to interact with you is anything volunteer related. Make sure it's something that requires more than 1 person. Look up group things in your area. Here the hospitals around me are always looking for volunteers for various duties. Are you good at rocking and feeding babies,lol? I know someone who does that.
Tried stuff like that. Still, not working.
 
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In a world of self absorbed and ultra busy people who habe their face shoved so deep in favebook that real socialization isnt even a reality. I doubt its you. I think its a social issue where culture has exchanged reality for virtual reality.

Almost everyone had or have friends. So it must be me. Its not normal to be friendliess for 16 years.
 
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All the friendships I ever had were not made intentionally. I found them along the way.

A friend is not a dog or a car or a laptop, something you go out and get. A friend is someone you find and you happen to become friends.

Or at least that's how it always happens with me.
Well finding someone along the way and not intentionally never happend for me.
 
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Maybe you're trying too hard. If you deliberately try to start a friendship, you can appear needy and people will avoid you. Maybe you're working against yourself here.

Maybe just live life. If something happens, it happens. If not, keep living life. Life has some good things, even if you don't have a single friend.
Not that either. Im not pushy. I give people space.

Not having a single friend for the rest of your life, from the age of 15 to the day i die is not normal. I think God wants us to have christian friends? Its somewhere in the bible i think.

And its in my heart desire to have friends. But since i cant get it, i want that desire to be gone, and just be happy to be alone.
 

MsMediator

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Not that either. Im not pushy. I give people space.

Not having a single friend for the rest of your life, from the age of 15 to the day i die is not normal. I think God wants us to have christian friends? Its somewhere in the bible i think.

And its in my heart desire to have friends. But since i cant get it, i want that desire to be gone, and just be happy to be alone.
Do you go to church? I got a couple of lifelong friends (hopefully) from church whom I met years ago. That said, I admit it is hard to make close friendships.

My problem is that I only want close friendships, anything less makes me feel unfulfilled so to speak (such as lunch or activity buddies, etc.) I tend to cancel these friendships even though maybe there could be some potential.
 

Subhumanoidal

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No, i never put myself down infront of others.

I have taken a long very hard look at myself, trust me. Only wrong with me is that i cant talk to people, i litterly have no idea.
People always gets bored of me and think im a weirdo etc. Its the same IRL and on internet.

Also my bad looks also plays a part in it, im 1 of 10 on the look scale. People gets disgusted by my looks.
Well you're frequently putting yourself down in front of everyone here, and that mentality Does affect the way you act and interact with others. As well as show in your body language. So it still comes across to others.

Not seeing things doesn't mean they aren't there. It just means you can't see them. Some of the things I learned about myself came from what others told me, not from things I saw within myself. In fact that's exactly what I said in my previous message. I took the things Others said about me and, using those things, looked into myself to find them.

Have people Told you they're bored of you? Have they said they think you're weird? Or are you just filling in the answers with what you assume?
I used to do this, always filled in the blanks with negatives. And then I behaved towards people from those negatives. Turns out I was wrong way more than I was right.
I got tired of running people off by always assuming they thought the worst of me, so I stopped. My relationships got better afterwards.

Unless you have some obvious deformity then your looks are not the issue.

My guess is you're here on this topic and nothing will come of it. You'll simply continue to dismiss every word people offer that may be helpful. Reinforce all of the wrong negative assumptions and not learn a thing.
Then as people get tired of going in circles and getting nowhere, they'll quit posting to you. And you'll disappear from the site feeling that you've proven your point without ever taking any responsibility for the role you took in driving everyone away. Instead sticking with the same wrong reasons you had when you arrived.
You're in a cycle of self fulfilling prophecy. You believe something is true so you behave in a way that ensures you get that exact outcome.
 

Mem

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Looking in proverbs for wisdom, 17:22 tells us that, "22A joyful heart is good medicine, but a broken spirit dries up the bones." and a study into the full meanings of those words such as "medicine" nuanced with healing, "broken" with 'scourged.' and 'bones' nuanced with 'strength,' the wisdom found is that joyfulness is encouraging, pleasing (good), and strengthening while the stricken spirit zaps your strength. I notice though what isn't specified is exactly whose strength is refreshed by the joyful heart or drained by the broken spirit, but I think this is because it applies to anyone whether possessing or encountering either a joyful heart or a broken spirit. And so, it is simply declared as truth.
Proverbs 18:14 happens to be found under the heading The Selfishness of the Unfriendly, and similarly states, "14The spirit of a man can endure his sickness, but who can survive a broken spirit? The Hebrew rendered "survive' here is nuanced with 'lift, carry, take' And this, question of 'who' may also be alluding to who as in 'can anyone else endure it if not even the one who possesses it can bear it?
How can a man endure his sickness if his spirit is broken?

I don't care what anyone else says, I rate my looks at "13" :cool:
 

Lynx

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No, i never put myself down infront of others.
Really?
I have taken a long very hard look at myself, trust me. Only wrong with me is that i cant talk to people, i litterly have no idea.
People always gets bored of me and think im a weirdo etc. Its the same IRL and on internet.

Also my bad looks also plays a part in it, im 1 of 10 on the look scale. People gets disgusted by my looks.
This is not putting yourself down in front of others?
 

Lanolin

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hmm

I dont know you seem pretty smart to me...
Probably you just need to work on your conversation skills.

Hobbies people dont really need to talk all the time to enjoy themselves and make friends.

Appearances can always improved, get youself some new threads, make sure your clothes are washed and you dont smelll whiffy (Bad body odour can be very off putting! and often people wont tell you! )

smile ..dont look angry

I would advise maybe have a langauge partner, maybe someone whos learning english and you can show them the basics and then you will get more fluent by teaching them because you WANT to have a conversation. You can read a script from a role play and practise with another person until it becomes natural. Get yourself some phrasebooks and treat it like you are also learning english as well.

I mean this is how people who dont have english as their first language learn to speak by practising and just trying it out. Dont worry about your pronunciation. The more you speak the more fluent you will become.

I mean if you have an accent nobody else can understand then it might be difficult, but you can learn to express yourself clearly with practise. Remember all langauge learners start out as babies and nobody at first can understand what they are talking about!
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Almost everyone had or have friends. So it must be me. Its not normal to be friendliess for 16 years.
Not true. This situation is far more common than you think.
 

Lanolin

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Personal topics of conversation to get ball rolling...

talk about your family, ask others about theirs
favourite foods
funny things pets/animals do
Books you read (books can be quite personal preferences)

wishes
living arrangements

people say not to talk about religion, or politics as that can be very divisive esp if you have opposing viewpoints. But some people thrive on that kind of combative arguing. Current affairs and news can be boring for most people who dont always keep up with everything the govt is doing!

the weather is a safe topic!
sports...!

Just try to find things in common with other people and you can talk to anyone and they might be interested, and leave room for response and time for them to listen, its more of an exercise in taking turns letting others speak and then you pickin up on what they say and then they do it back. Or it might be a question but dont come across as too nosy as people dont always want to talk about their personal lives.

I mean the rudest thing you can say to people is to ask where they come from as if they are an alien from out of space especially if you havent met them before and prejudge them based on their appearance.
 

kinda

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Not sure if this is the wrong part of the forum to write about this.

But yeah.

I have not had a friend for a very long time. Im currently 31, had my last friend when i was about 15. So it was a long time ago.

I tried befriend many, both males and females, christians and non-christians alike. But it never works. IRL everyone always avoids and ignores me.

On internet its a little bit better, some talk to me but its always dies out after a week or 2. They always stop writing to me and never responds again.

I am very self-aware, so im really trying to anaylize why i keep failing. Im not behaving bad.
So it cant be that. So the only reason must be that im very dumb and have low iq, i have
no idea how to talk to people. I actually read many books about how to "improve" your iq and
improve your social skills, biut it has not worked for me. So i must so dumb and have such a low iq thats impossible for me to improve to acceptable level. Which means i will
keep being friendless until the day i die.

I heard people say "someone will accept you" and "just be nice and people will love you your heart". But as i said, im not mean to people. I care for people. I have compassion. And yet,
nobody liked me for 16 years. So something must be wrong with my brain.

I prayed to God about this many many times. But he is not helping. God can do everything,
But i dont think he improves people IQ. Its not how he works. I guess he gave me
this lonely life for a reason. Not sure why yet. Maybe he wants me for himself.

What are your hobbies? What do you like to do?

Join groups that have the same interests as you.

What about finding a Bible Study group around your area?

Maybe take a fun class in college, that you would be interested in.

Either that, or do that the exact same things, that you have been doing. I'm sure you will get different results?!?! :)
 

Gojira

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I'm a man who walks alone. No friends, no partner. Only have my thoughts to keep me company.


But you know what? I like it that way.


There's something truly mystical about being alone. I wouldn't want it any other way.


Okay... but this doesn't help KJ.
 

Gojira

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Not sure if this is the wrong part of the forum to write about this.

But yeah.

I have not had a friend for a very long time. Im currently 31, had my last friend when i was about 15. So it was a long time ago.

I tried befriend many, both males and females, christians and non-christians alike. But it never works. IRL everyone always avoids and ignores me.

On internet its a little bit better, some talk to me but its always dies out after a week or 2. They always stop writing to me and never responds again.

I am very self-aware, so im really trying to anaylize why i keep failing. Im not behaving bad.
So it cant be that. So the only reason must be that im very dumb and have low iq, i have
no idea how to talk to people. I actually read many books about how to "improve" your iq and
improve your social skills, biut it has not worked for me. So i must so dumb and have such a low iq thats impossible for me to improve to acceptable level. Which means i will
keep being friendless until the day i die.

I heard people say "someone will accept you" and "just be nice and people will love you your heart". But as i said, im not mean to people. I care for people. I have compassion. And yet,
nobody liked me for 16 years. So something must be wrong with my brain.

I prayed to God about this many many times. But he is not helping. God can do everything,
But i dont think he improves people IQ. Its not how he works. I guess he gave me
this lonely life for a reason. Not sure why yet. Maybe he wants me for himself.
Bro, I get you. I have friends, but none since I moved to AZ three years ago. I do everything alone, and it's getting to me. Prayer is supposed to be highly effective, but...