Fornication, Single and Unbelieving Partner.

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It seems that most are Bewitched and under a Spell wenn it comes finding a Mate,a Lifelong Partner, one whom ones falls in Love with or sees some Desire in them that is worth Giving up some or even all Moral or Spiritual Standards.


Singles starting at a certain age, growing up in a Christian Home toss aside or take less to no heed to Commandments such as Fornication - fornication is a term that typically refers to consensual sexual intercourse between two people not married to each other. 1 Corinthians 7 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.


A Question that is also liked to be argued about is having a partner who is an Unbeliever, many Christians here give good examples that is works, while some Christians give good arguments why it cannot work. 2 Corinthians 6:14 14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?


But there is also the Scripture 1 Corinthians 7 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through [h]her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. 15 Including that in the Case the Unbelieving Partner decieds to leave though shalt let them go 16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?


This Scripture does not Justify by any means that now you can go and bring into your own home an Unbelieving Partner, but it says 12 But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not [f]divorce her. 13 And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not [g]send her husband away. Here one clearly sees that its only in cases, that During the Marriege of 2 Unbelievers one Becomes a Believer and the Other doesnt, he or she should not Divorce there Partner because of ther Unbelieve.


Fornication and the act of it is the same as other Sins, although wenn this Subject is brought up like some Sin, little Correction is given by some Christians, while others especially the Youth find no Conviction in it, nor a sense of wrong doing in these Practices. Sex that you have with your Partner that you are not married to is a Sin, Crime, one should repent from it and accept it. But not Harden your Hearts from one law and not repent and pay more attention and disgust in the Sin of Smoking, or Swearing while taking no Action against repenting from your own Sins.


I am 30 Years old, during my life between the age of 17-21 i did everything that most teens and youth do around that age "Worldy Teens", had plenty of girlfriends, took all drugs i could get my hands on, went partying up to 4-5 times a week, drank alcohol, had plenty of friends ect...but what i want to point out is that i do understand that wenn taking in consideration to live by that Command and Repent from that sin of Fornication, there will be a high % chance that you will not find a partner that will stand by your side until the Ceremony of Wedding is complete.


My Friends Laugh and say "Good Luck" wenn i mention i want a partner but not have Sex until Marriege, there responses are different but there are responses such as "none Marrys anymore, you have to live with a partner for years until ever mentioning Marriege" ect...even so, i wouldnt dare to believe i could hold my self back and not commit fornication with the women that i would love if night for night and day for day she would be with me. Its a hard issue, i know, i have been single for 4 years now, and now and then i do see a women that is pleasent to me and my eyes, and its a hard thing. Keeping the Commandmend and Repenting from Fornication is a Hard thing, thats why most Christians will not ponder on it much, nor believe that they are able to no commit that sin, but take it light heartetly and day after day, night after night Sin.


My Opinion having a Partner or bringing home a Partner that is an Unbeliever will be based on my Believe, Expierence and Testimonie of Others.


This issue is preety straight foward, may be attacked from all different angles and disect it to smaller pieces to know the Mysteries of Spirit and Soul. Spirituality here is the Main Subject i will be pointing out. On the Surface, you see a lets say Husband and a Wife, one is an Unbeliever and the Other isnt. But what is happning in the Spirit and Soul?...howcome some are succesfull in there Mariege while others fall apart?.


I will try my best to Explain my Opinion why one should not allow, even wenn in great love, a Unbelieving Partner in there Home. But on the Other Hand, if a case is being presented to each individual were Jesus Christ gave you the GO FOR IT!!! sign to an Unbelieving Person that you desire to be your Partner, then GO FOR IT!!! :).


I will Post some Scriptures and will comment on them, offcourse if i missundertand any Scripture im more then happy to take a 2nd Look at it again even a 3rd.




I will Creat Perfect Scenario so the Contrast between a Believers Light in Jesus Christ might more Evident in the Presence of the Darkness of an Unbeliever.


Isaiah is a Christian, he prays 3 times a day to the Lord, Reads the Bible Peacefully and in all Honesty comes to the Lord will all his Sins, Thoughts, Desires to Figure out a Solution to any Problem that he has. The lord replies to him with Visions, Dreams, Gifts, Blessings, sometimes here and now the Lord Speaks onto him during any time of the day or night to Reveal something to him that is of Importance or just a Joyfull gift. He works for the Lord Jesus Christ and now and then Hears Jesus Christ say, go here and wait there, speak with him or give this onto that person. He fights the Spiritual Warfare, he gets Tempted by Demonic Oppression, knows the Enemy, knows how to fight back and has knoweldge of the Holy Spirit and Spiritual Things.


On the Other side there is Sahara a very Beatiful women, she is Bold, Loves good Deeds, Hard Worker, Inteligent, some form of Wisdom is also pressent, Soft Voice and a lively Soul, she likes to Go out, be with her Friends, Desires a Husband and Children, a family of her own, she is open minded, likes all sorts of Movies and her Taste for Music is "if its good then its good, no matter what Genre". Likes to Travel to different Places, sees the Positive side at any given situation, loves the Rain and Sun, the Snow and the soft Breeze.




There are many more things i could write about these 2 people, but this rough description should give you the main idea of these to Persons.


There are many Differences you can see even know, while Isaiah loves to read the Bible, Works and Ready at all times to Obey the voice of the Lord Jesus Christ, Sahara, likes to watch Movies, go out and be with Friends. While Isaiah Prayes 3 Times a day Saraha likes to listen to all Genre of Music, Isaiah knows about the Spiritual Battles and fought them many times, while Sahara likes would explain certain mood swings, or troubles in a positive but unBibical, another words without understanding way.




Here you can see that in some situations, Clashes of Swords will have to beginn, Isaiah might be in big trouble, he is sorrowfull because Satan is tempting him so he sits there and holding his ground the he learned and studied in the Bible, although Sahara Loves her Husband she would not support
him, by saying, you might need an Aspirin if you have an Headache, or dont worry it will go away by itself. How would Isaiah react? Since he knows that the truth is much darker and how would she react?.


Isaiah Loves to talk about Jesus Christ, in any Discussion if it seems good, he mentions the Works, the Faith, Grace, Power, Wisdom and Majesty of him. Saraha at the beginning might of heard for it for a while now, but as time pases she makes small remarks such as "not now" or "dont you think you talk about Jesus Christ to much, how about a different Subject".


Again there are many other things i could write how the Clashes of Swords would begin. Isaiah who loves his wife very much, is patient with her but he will not allow himself nor by his wife to decrease his walk with Jesus Christ, neither will he Compromise to reduce Discusions, or Mentioning Jesus Christ to please his Wife. But he Continues even more strongly his walk with him who saves Him and Loves him.


Even Today a Beliving partner, now and then compromises with there unbelieving partner, that the name Jesus Christ will not mentioned here and there, that there discussions will not start no end with anything that is Biblical ect...the Believing partner chooses either to stand idle, his walk with Jesus Christ becomes very Slow and or a Backslide will occour, that by the end of the day, the Believing partner has sacrificed more and given in much to the unbelieving partner, and the only thing that the Believing partner can hold on to, without offending his Unbelieving Partner or hear any kind of resent, the Christian mouth and spoken words are bound in Chains, his Actions Compromised and now is all alone, and Practices his Faith only in his Mind and Spirit.


It seems like the Unbelieving partner has said unto the Believing Partner "Here shalt though go, and no further"


You might see the Damage that has been done, and many Christians who made the Decision to try there best to follow Jesus Christ may get hindered by an unbelieving partner.


The head of the Household is the Man, and the Head of the man is Jesus Christ, the part of the man is to Please, acutally its not just the part but our Desire to make our Wife Happy and make sure everything that she desires can in some form be given to her. Would a Christian give in the Desires of a Unbeliever? If yes what Desires would an Unbeliever have?.


John 12:31 31 Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out.
1 John 3:8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. Matt 8:28 immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,



The Ruler of this World, who does what is Sinful is of the devil "i will not go into this any further" and a man with an unclean spirit.



Revelation, 17:14 Jesus Christ= King of Kings
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 8:12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 6:7[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]: "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]" [/FONT]


In the Spiritual Realm the Contrast of whats working and who has Domionen over one and the other man, is more Evident and Clearly, one who Follows Jesus Christ is FULL of Holy Spirit and Jesus
Christ has everything, Light, Life, Living Water ect...


Unbeliever who do not believe and even some Christians still walk in Darkness and are Plagued by Demons, Torment, Bound in Sins and there Own Desires.


Satan who Rules man who walk in darkness even some who are Christians, he get under Control with Manipulation of Mind, Feelings, Heart Desires, Lies, Breaking, Fear just alote of stuff he will do to get the Control of a Persons Souls. While Christians have a King of Kings, he sets Captives Free, he gives Water, Truth, Hope, Believe, Peace and yes lol because he loves us is ready to let things happen to us to keep us closer to him.


This issue should be much of a Deal to anyone atm, i assume, but Ponder on the Thought what happens to the Unbeliever who walks in Darkness and bound in Sins, with a high Probabality Satan has some Control over that Person in a House of a Believer. Although they are terribly in Love and the Christian might notices Presences of Clouds of Darkness, can you Imagine what the Goal is of Satan is in that moment through that Unbeliever? Or will you say, Satan will not even move one inch toward the Unbeliever to take Advantage of her?. Can you Imagine the Alerts in Heaven and all are Preparing themself for a Offense and Defensive Position and the Lord is getting a notice from an Angle saying "Satan through this Unbeliever has now Entrance in Areas he didnt have befor", for Example the Believers Heart? Or Mind? Or Soul? Objects in our Houses?


The Spiriutal battle already has begon for the Soul of the believer, and it will manifest slowly to the surface what has been taken place in the Spirit, the Believer will Compromise with his Wife, he will be silent in subjects Conserning Jesus Christ or Biblical Things ect...




Then taking in consideration Children, this is were, if it comes to this another Great Battle will take place, what will they Learn?, how will they be Diciplined? What is Moraly Good and Bad? What should they Hate and Love? Who should they Gloryfie and to whome not pay attention to?, who is our Enemy? Spirituality?...all these Questions will have to be sorted out, unless the believing partner has given all Authority to the Unbelieving Party.


What should i look for in a person and why?...


Offcourse, many or even all of us Truly would just like to pray a Prayers and ask "Lord, wenn and were, time and date, what will this person wear lol" but till this day i have not heard a Testimonie of such anwered Prayers so we should not put aside that prayer but raise our Standard as High as Possible so that if we desire to search for the Right Partner, we shall find that we are Searching by Wisdom, Knoweldge and Understanding.


Not all Christians go to Church, i call myself a Christian but i dont Attend Church, someone who taking his Dog out for a walk to be a very Faithfull Christian, someone you see during a Coffee Break or Taking out Trash or Riding the Buss ect...might be a Bible Believing Christian who Just doesnt attend Church. So dont go out in your Church and Believe "this is were ill find the faithfull christian", but live your daily live and if someone comes across and you find out he Believes in Jesus Christ and Gosple, he belives in his Life, Death and Resurrection According to the Scripture, then you might want to get further into discussion with that person.
You will have to have many Discussions with that Person, and test his Faith and what he Believes in, even if you find out that he Sins in some form, that doesn not mean he is not strongh in Faith, but keep Observing what he does through Discussions what he believes, knows, does and his Daily Habbits.



And dont be bothered if you see that the Christian is Strong in Faith but weak in will, if you are Strong in Will but Weak "comparison with his faith" in your Faith, you can Support each other "Soulties" so dont be discuraged if you are Strong were he is Weak or Intiminated by were you are Weak he is Strong.


You may want to ask him Questions about all Parts of what he Believes or what he Expierenced that is writen in the Bible. Questions that are of Great Importance are such as



  1. Who is the Enemy and What is he able to do
  2. Who are you striving for "Jesus Christ, Money, Sins" find out what he says
  3. What is the part of the Husband/Father Wife/Mother in the Household?
  4. How does he/she handle Stress, Anger, Hate, Disapointments, or Sins such as Lust, Greed...
  5. Ask him/her if the Old Testament is Very Important "it is!" but ask him he finds it important if so why.
  6. Ask him/her about the Role of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Father, what he believes of these 3.


The more Questions you ask him from a Biblical Standpoint the more you will find out, how much time and thought he puts into it. If you meet a Christian who confesses to be a Christian for 10+ Years but has very little to say but what he does say is full of Wisdome and Truth,or if you meet a Christian who confesses to be a Christian for 5+ Years and you see he has more then enough to say, even to a point that you would Gently and kindly ask for a pause to ask for another questions, then it should give you an idea that most or all his/her thoughts are on Biblical, Spiritual and Godly things either in Controlled Wise manner or Plenty of True Words. Facial Expressions or Mood Changes, if the Atmosphere Changes all these signs if possible you are able to read them will point out, what the Christian enjoys to talk about with what the christian is having problem with.


The more talk and more time you spend with a person and the better you know Jesus Christ, and the more he reveals onto you the Human Nature, Sin, Spiritual Things, Wisdom and Gifts, Understanding, the less likely you will fall into the Pool Love, wich in itself is not Sin, but blinds and casts out all wise and Godly intentions for that Livelong Decision of Marriege.


There is more then this, and i will Strongly Suggest that you will listen to Ellen G. Whites Free Audiobook Testimonies on Sexual Adultery and Divorce. Its Free and while listening to it, the most Eager Soul longing for a Relationship will be softly, soothingly and lovingly be humbled, so that in peace you may find yourself with a peacefull and joyfull smile "Im not ready for Marriege or Relationship yet". Its Blessed and its something i would want everyone to Enjoy at least once.


Goolge Whitesstate first link should start with Ellen G. White @ Estate:........then press on the Image were its written egwwritings, on the right center side. On the Right click on the Globe with the Open Book for the Free E-Books, right now i would suggest to search for the free E-Book Testimonies on Sexual Adultery and Divorce. Left side Choose Family, Scroll down until you see it.


Its a preety long Write and i could go on, but Ellen G, White inspired me and Jesus Christ, he was with her, i know it.
 
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ChristianVegan

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good stuff!!