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Explain what you mean by 'superficial' as relates to marriages.

Yes, I don't see any depth anywhere. A lot of times, the environment is a big cause of this. In some environments, you're pressured to be fake and it's hard for most people to not succumb and yield to the pressure. Let's be honest: church is probably in the top three of these superficial environments.

And yes, most conversations and friendships (again, depending on where you live: in the US for sure) are surface. The reason for this is a mixture of culture (depending on where you live) and carnal nature. I plan to write a post about man's need to be god and how it's at the core of rebellion and sin (and performance, etc.).

Amen. The world needs to see godly and mature marriages. Psalm 128 is God's desire for every marriage; but God's primary blessings are reserved for believers who walk with Him in living relationship-- a privilege (or job description) first given to Adam and Eve. As Ps. 128 says regarding marriage, the best and bulk of the blessings are reserved for the believer "who fears the Lord, who walks in His ways."
Truly I do agree as it being where you live as a factor. Yes the "church" has definitely suffered when it comes to depth, vulnerability and growth.

Many relationships are simply going thru the motions of being cordial. We are to busy to be real ;(
 
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Explain what you mean by 'superficial' as relates to marriages.

Yes, I don't see any depth anywhere. A lot of times, the environment is a big cause of this. In some environments, you're pressured to be fake and it's hard for most people to not succumb and yield to the pressure. Let's be honest: church is probably in the top three of these superficial environments.

And yes, most conversations and friendships (again, depending on where you live: in the US for sure) are surface. The reason for this is a mixture of culture (depending on where you live) and carnal nature. I plan to write a post about man's need to be god and how it's at the core of rebellion and sin (and performance, etc.).

Amen. The world needs to see godly and mature marriages. Psalm 128 is God's desire for every marriage; but God's primary blessings are reserved for believers who walk with Him in living relationship-- a privilege (or job description) first given to Adam and Eve. As Ps. 128 says regarding marriage, the best and bulk of the blessings are reserved for the believer "who fears the Lord, who walks in His ways."

I can only speak on the "marriages" I observe and have encountered, but many fail to have "real" conversations regarding their struggles. The conversations revolve around the kids and once the kids are gone it's as they don't know who they are. Many of my friends discussed divorce after years of only coexistence no growth. I will say that social media didn't help the situation. Many layers to this conversation but for the most part there are simply tooo Many distractions from my observation.
 
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As the wise man once said: Are marriages made in heaven? Maybe, but so are tornadoes, hurricanes, and lightning.
 

Cameron143

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All marriages aren't the ones God would have chosen had the decision been offered to Him. Marriage, like too many areas of life, are merely the result of human choices.
My aim here isn't to denigrate anyone, but to encourage people to give some thought to how much or little we actually defer to God's choice.
I like what Hudson Taylor wrote:

Enough that God My Father knows
Nothing this faith can dimensions.
He gives the very best to those
Who leave the choice with Him.

Neither is this to say God will not redeem our poor choices...Romans 8:28. I've been glad for this truth very often.
 

Dymes

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If I ever write more than two paragraphs in a comment, it's only because I'm trying to explain what really can't be explained.

In my experience, if something cannot be explained, I usually do more harm than good trying to explain it.

The Bible, as far back as the OT, makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is the one who teaches both the things of God and really also the things of life (eg. living, science, relationships, architecture, media, government, everything).

I will give God credit for teaching us all things. However I won’t specifically give the Holy Spirit the credit of teaching us math and science etc. Mainly because I believe only the regenerate receive the Holy Spirit. And any heathen can teach math and science lol
Can’t completely disagree with you on Adam being alone and needing a wife. As I stated it was an unpopular opinion of mine. I wouldn’t dare be dogmatic about it although I think there is some truth somewhere in my statement.

You wrote, "God's commands and promises change the more sin affects the original design." God's commands don't change with sin; His Grace does. His will doesn't change; the way He relates to us does. Everything functions by laws, even God Himself.

When I say commands change the more sin effects Man I’m referring to things like divorce. Christ said divorce wasn’t so in the beginning but because the hardness of their hearts it was changed. Or the unpopular opinion on incest that had to take place if Adam and Eve were the only two humans. But of course God later commands us not to have sexual relations with close kin in Leviticus. Stuff like that.

(This is why God was able to tell Moses about the parents' sins passing to the children long after it was already

This statement is a little iffy to me if you are referring to Ex 34:7. I get what you are saying but I’m not sure I would use that verse to explain it.
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Oh thanks for the reply advice. I read the quote and answer as I read. I been struggling trying to figure this thing out again lol. It’s been a while since I been on.