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First off, if you two have been living together (you didn't say if you were) in the intimacy of marriage without being married, that is sin number one. If you are a Bible believing Christian, you should not be with someone who is of a different faith (catholic). God said that we should only marry someone of the faith. And now that your boyfriend is claiming to be muslim, I would definitely not marry him. He is lost and needs salvation. I know it is not popular to call people out on sin, like fornication (and that is what living together without being married is), but it must be done. If you are genuinely saved and born again of God, you will not be comfortable living in a way that is displeasing to God. If you two are living together, I would change that immediately, and tell your boyfriend why. And if he is muslim, tell him that you are forbidden by God's word to stay with him. I know love is blind, especially for the young, but God has given us rules for our own good. If he has converted to islam, I can tell you right now that your life will change for the worse in many ways. He will want you to obey this and that command from the quran. He will not want to eat anything with pork, you will need to dress in such a way as to cover your entire body, etc. Muslims have a VERY LOW opinion of women and treat them terribly. You may say "my boyfriend could never be like that", but you'd be surprised what following an ungodly religion can do to some. I have seen it with my own eyes.
This is serious, my friend. Christ is the light of the world, islam is darkness. The Bible says "what does light and darkness have in common"?
I am not attacking you, but warning you out of love. Living/sleeping together is sin. If you are a Bible believing Christian and were with a Catholic, that is wrong. If you know your boyfriend is now a muslim, you must leave him. There are no two ways about it.
Believe me, if you stay with him, you will see all of the evil that I have spoken to you about. He will change toward you as he is more indoctrinated in the muslim beliefs.
I encourage you to get into God's word and pray much. Don't go by emotional feelings, but let God's word guide you.
God bless, my friend.
Tom
This is serious, my friend. Christ is the light of the world, islam is darkness. The Bible says "what does light and darkness have in common"?
I am not attacking you, but warning you out of love. Living/sleeping together is sin. If you are a Bible believing Christian and were with a Catholic, that is wrong. If you know your boyfriend is now a muslim, you must leave him. There are no two ways about it.
Believe me, if you stay with him, you will see all of the evil that I have spoken to you about. He will change toward you as he is more indoctrinated in the muslim beliefs.
I encourage you to get into God's word and pray much. Don't go by emotional feelings, but let God's word guide you.
God bless, my friend.
Tom
Catholics ARE christian despite what you or anyone else believes. Granted, there are many catholics that do not really understand the official teachings of the church, but I for one do know the teachings AND the Bible and despite what you or anyone else says, the OFFICIAL teaching of the Catholic church IS based on scripture and is in concordance with it.
I understand this is a protestant site and protestants love to just bash Catholics and won't ever admit they are wrong, but I feel I need to speak up sometimes. What I can't believe is how incredibly INSENSITIVE and CALLOUS you all are to Catholics. Don't we at least deserve some common respect? If the Catholic church was so out of line with scripture it would not be gaining protestant converts and it would not have remained so prominent in the world for 1,500 years.
I understand this is a protestant site and protestants love to just bash Catholics and won't ever admit they are wrong, but I feel I need to speak up sometimes. What I can't believe is how incredibly INSENSITIVE and CALLOUS you all are to Catholics. Don't we at least deserve some common respect? If the Catholic church was so out of line with scripture it would not be gaining protestant converts and it would not have remained so prominent in the world for 1,500 years.
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There's enough of this catholic arguing all over the site, please drop it and stop hijacking someone elses thread and take it to one of the other 100 that already exists or take it private, but take it out of this one, it doesn't belong here.
To the OP.
I'm sure you hate to hear it, but i agree with Tom. You really shouldn't have been with this guy to start with actually. You yourself said he lived like a heathen, so why would you be with someone like that? The conversation to islam isn't the problem. That he was a heathen to begin with was a problem. He just went from one type of sin to another.
You didn't say if you were catholic yourself. Like Tom i don't accept catholics as Christians either. I would not date a catholic. And if you are Christian and not catholic i'd encourage the same in you. But if you are catholic then obviously the point is moot.
I encourage you to outright dump him. He was never saved to begin with litebrite. You may feel that you have strong feelings for him now, but still if you end up marrying this guy, you still have to face the fact that you'll be yoked with an unbeliever. Send him a sermon on hell and I am sure that will get him saved. Once he realizes that he is lost and is on his way to hell, he'll wake up. Most people in this world are on their way to hell. And sadly, many people today, even people who profess to be Christians will try everything but living as a Christian. They'll try the Catholic church, they'll try the Charismatic movement, they'll try Islam, but they will not simply live according to the timeless principles found in the King James Holy Bible. Again, I encourage you to dump him and move on. And I encourage you to pray to God and ask Him to send you a God fearing Christian man. A Bible believer.
B
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:16
It doesn't say denomination.
I've been this situation before. It's incredibly hard to accept what you know you should be doing. However, God has a lot of mercy on us and will make it easier for us to do His will. Pray unceasingly about it!
Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. 12 Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you.
Jeremiah 29: 11-12
John 3:16
It doesn't say denomination.
I've been this situation before. It's incredibly hard to accept what you know you should be doing. However, God has a lot of mercy on us and will make it easier for us to do His will. Pray unceasingly about it!
Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. 12 Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you.
Jeremiah 29: 11-12
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C
Getting BACK to the issue at hand,
If you claim to be a Christian while dating this guy who called himself Catholic but didn't live his live that in any way represented Christ's way of living than you are just as much a 'heathen' as he is for still dating such a guy.
You CANNOT evangelize a person while dating them, because you end up sending all the wrong messages. You're teaching them that you can do your own thing while still wearing the 'Christian' badge. You are teaching him that He is God NOT Jesus, you are teaching him that your life revolves around him and not Jesus.
Obviously his Catholicism was a mask. Just like their are fake Calvinists, Methodists, Evangelicals - it doesn't matter, he was a fake. His unchristian living should have been the first red light for you to run for the hills and never have anything to do with him. But you say you love him, enough for you to ignore those red lights and enough for you to be confused about where you stand on him converting to Islam! I suspect this is because you have or still are in a sexual relationship with him. Stubbornly remaining in obvious sin usually has sexual roots somewhere, I know because I fell in this very same trap myself once upon a time..
You need to seriously, (on your own) come before the Lord and ask him to show you your sin, it will grieve you but it will be for your benefit, and you need to come to a repentance of the heart. And the heart of the issue is this - idolatry.
Secondly, once you've done that you need to break up with this boy!! PERIOD!! You may have thoughts like - 'But hes the best I'll ever have.' That is a lie from the Enemy. 'He loves me.' He may have a visage of 'love' for you, but it is not the love God wants you to recieve. God wants you to experience his Holy love as well as the Christ centred love from another godly man who will love you like Christ loved the church. You are missing out on that and you don't even know it! God wants you to experience the practical love where a man lovingly leads you, prays with and for you, raises his children according to the bible, God wants you to experience the joy of marital intimacy not sexual immorality that the Enemy has convinced you is ok.
Lastly, you need to be in a close knit community of strong godly Christians. If you think you belong to a church now, you're wrong, maybe you go to church on Sundays and do nothing else. Thats the problem, when you're involved with your church community you come under that warm loving guidance and leadership that transfers into your own life. As a person previously tied into sexual sin, its hard to go to church and be in christian fellowship every week because the Holy Spirit is nearby and you always feel convicted of your sin which you don't like because its reminding you that you are wrong and what you are doing is wrong. Thats why people who are in really heavy sin, stop going to church.
And if you remain with this boy you are turning your back on Jesus and are following the Enemy. Not saying that Islam is Satans primary tool, many other religions and whatnot are as well. Reread Genesis, Satan attacked and manipulated Eve first because he knew of the influence she had over Adam. Secondly, whether feminists beleive or not - we as individuals, families, communities and countries follow our men. And it starts in the home. If you stay with this man you will invariably convert to his ways, and you will either go willingly and completely forsake your Lord as God or you will go grudgingly and will remain miserable because your differences in faith will always rock the boat, and if God forbid you marry and have children with this boy then they will follow him not you and they will not learn and come to know Jesus as they ought.
Do the right thing.
I recommend you watch these two videos, it is sermon content from a godly pastor that my husband and I listen to:
http://marshill.com/media/religionsaves/sexual-sin
http://marshill.com/media/religionsaves/dating
If you claim to be a Christian while dating this guy who called himself Catholic but didn't live his live that in any way represented Christ's way of living than you are just as much a 'heathen' as he is for still dating such a guy.
You CANNOT evangelize a person while dating them, because you end up sending all the wrong messages. You're teaching them that you can do your own thing while still wearing the 'Christian' badge. You are teaching him that He is God NOT Jesus, you are teaching him that your life revolves around him and not Jesus.
Obviously his Catholicism was a mask. Just like their are fake Calvinists, Methodists, Evangelicals - it doesn't matter, he was a fake. His unchristian living should have been the first red light for you to run for the hills and never have anything to do with him. But you say you love him, enough for you to ignore those red lights and enough for you to be confused about where you stand on him converting to Islam! I suspect this is because you have or still are in a sexual relationship with him. Stubbornly remaining in obvious sin usually has sexual roots somewhere, I know because I fell in this very same trap myself once upon a time..
You need to seriously, (on your own) come before the Lord and ask him to show you your sin, it will grieve you but it will be for your benefit, and you need to come to a repentance of the heart. And the heart of the issue is this - idolatry.
Secondly, once you've done that you need to break up with this boy!! PERIOD!! You may have thoughts like - 'But hes the best I'll ever have.' That is a lie from the Enemy. 'He loves me.' He may have a visage of 'love' for you, but it is not the love God wants you to recieve. God wants you to experience his Holy love as well as the Christ centred love from another godly man who will love you like Christ loved the church. You are missing out on that and you don't even know it! God wants you to experience the practical love where a man lovingly leads you, prays with and for you, raises his children according to the bible, God wants you to experience the joy of marital intimacy not sexual immorality that the Enemy has convinced you is ok.
Lastly, you need to be in a close knit community of strong godly Christians. If you think you belong to a church now, you're wrong, maybe you go to church on Sundays and do nothing else. Thats the problem, when you're involved with your church community you come under that warm loving guidance and leadership that transfers into your own life. As a person previously tied into sexual sin, its hard to go to church and be in christian fellowship every week because the Holy Spirit is nearby and you always feel convicted of your sin which you don't like because its reminding you that you are wrong and what you are doing is wrong. Thats why people who are in really heavy sin, stop going to church.
And if you remain with this boy you are turning your back on Jesus and are following the Enemy. Not saying that Islam is Satans primary tool, many other religions and whatnot are as well. Reread Genesis, Satan attacked and manipulated Eve first because he knew of the influence she had over Adam. Secondly, whether feminists beleive or not - we as individuals, families, communities and countries follow our men. And it starts in the home. If you stay with this man you will invariably convert to his ways, and you will either go willingly and completely forsake your Lord as God or you will go grudgingly and will remain miserable because your differences in faith will always rock the boat, and if God forbid you marry and have children with this boy then they will follow him not you and they will not learn and come to know Jesus as they ought.
Do the right thing.
I recommend you watch these two videos, it is sermon content from a godly pastor that my husband and I listen to:
http://marshill.com/media/religionsaves/sexual-sin
http://marshill.com/media/religionsaves/dating
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If you actually read what i said, i said to take his defense of his faith to an appropriate thread, or take it to private. Hijacking someones thread by overtaking it with another topic is considered rude behavior, no matter what the reason. There are tons of Catholic debate threads up and i simply said not to take over a thread where thats not the point. The OP posted to seek advice, not to hear people quarrel over what they disagree about. So actually, trying to keep the focus on the thread on track IS constructive. And if YOU don't like that i spoke up about it YOU are the one with the problem. (See, i can say that too, works just as well against you).
L
So to you its not ok for someone to stick up for their belief when it is being lowered to the same level as the terrorist's faith, but I bet if someone said in a thread that christians were evil and dumb you probably would be the first to lead the charge in defense of the faith no matter what the thread was about right????? If so, then you are a hippocrit and you picked the right name for yourself.
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If HE really loved her, he would not ask her to convert in the first place (If he has?) Jesus is the ONLY way, the truth and the life" We can ONLY be saved through Him (and Him alone).
litebrite
1 Corrinthians 7:12-16
12 But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. 13 And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. 16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?
Not sure if you are married but if he is willing to stay with you even if you do not convert, (If he asks, do not convert as stated above) than stay with him but pray that God revels Himself to him. But if you feel forced into converting to Islam and you feel that your walk and relationship with Christ is being affected by it, than leave him. You can not serve two masters. Christ HAS to come first, but as I said, if he is willing to stay with you, than stay. Hope it helped. God bless.
litebrite
1 Corrinthians 7:12-16
12 But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. 13 And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. 16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?
Not sure if you are married but if he is willing to stay with you even if you do not convert, (If he asks, do not convert as stated above) than stay with him but pray that God revels Himself to him. But if you feel forced into converting to Islam and you feel that your walk and relationship with Christ is being affected by it, than leave him. You can not serve two masters. Christ HAS to come first, but as I said, if he is willing to stay with you, than stay. Hope it helped. God bless.
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Okay so I read some of the responses and I would say alot of people are bringing up good points. To answer your question, I have been in a very similar situation. My last relationship was that of three years to someone who was a different religion. I am a Christian and have been raised this way for a very long time so there was no way I was going to change my faith for him... however, I too worried about him getting saved. I spent years praying for him, even taking him to church but in the end he did not wish to convert from his religion (Sikh). This left me in a very hard situation because in my eyes he was the man I wanted to marry at the time except he was missing the most important thing to me which was accepting Jesus as his Lord and Savior. In the end I knew if I stayed with him that i'd be jeapordizing my relationship with Jesus Christ and so I chose to leave him. I talked to God and in my heart it was the toughest decision I had to make but I knew that if I stayed with him I would be holding myself back and not giving 100% to the most important thing in my life. So though you are confused right now and I know it is difficult to think this way, I really do suggest that you do what you believe God wants you to do. I feel you already know the answer but in the end it is your decision. It does say in the bible that we should bind with our own however it does not say that it's not possible to bind with another religion. God does warn that it will be very difficult for it will be a true test to our faith and not easy. What really helped me was thinking about if I were to have children one day. I would like my kids to be raised in a strong Christian household, being with a non-believer would also jeapordize my kids belief's... what kind of example would I be setting for them if I married a non-believer?
Just my opinion, those are questions you yourself need to consider. I will pray for you, God bless
Just my opinion, those are questions you yourself need to consider. I will pray for you, God bless
I knew someone who experienced a similar situation.
You have two options:
1) try to return his attention to Christ
2) forget about him.
Look, faith is a very deep decision, and it is difficult to "reprogram" someone's faith. If that was his choice, then so be it, you must respect that, and move on without him
It's sad to say, I know, but life cannot be all sugar & spice all the time. People change by nature. Sadly, his change was away from Christ.
Pray for him, and who knows...
You have two options:
1) try to return his attention to Christ
2) forget about him.
Look, faith is a very deep decision, and it is difficult to "reprogram" someone's faith. If that was his choice, then so be it, you must respect that, and move on without him
It's sad to say, I know, but life cannot be all sugar & spice all the time. People change by nature. Sadly, his change was away from Christ.
Pray for him, and who knows...
Pray for him to come out of his deluded state.
I will not say leave, dump him it is none of our place to say turn your back on him..... It is a tough one and Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah be your strength and guide.
He jumped from one ship to its sister company ship, can you try and explain how islam is said to be created by the catholic church to tame and use islam for their own agenda....
remind him that islam never past rome....
I will not say leave, dump him it is none of our place to say turn your back on him..... It is a tough one and Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah be your strength and guide.
He jumped from one ship to its sister company ship, can you try and explain how islam is said to be created by the catholic church to tame and use islam for their own agenda....
remind him that islam never past rome....
R
I strongly agree with this. Muslims are in the the business of converting everyone they can convince. Unless you have vast knowledge of Scriptures to Rebuke their false teachings, and, since your heart is involved
You better walk away, or you' ll be wearing a Burn, or a cloth on your head one day....
You better walk away, or you' ll be wearing a Burn, or a cloth on your head one day....