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Lanolin

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when you are second born, its like you just get used to all the second hand clothes, never having anything new, being second best, plus having others tell you what they think is best and what you should do all the time. Even parents dont dote on their second born children as much as the first one. Its like oh, another daughter we ALREADY had one.

But sometimes I just think its nice to be first once in a while.

I see that in schools and you can absolutely tell which kids are the firstborns. They push ahead of everyone and are leaders in sports etc and win all the trophies. They take over the class. They boss the younger kids. They expect eveything to be brand new and would screw up their nose at anything secondhand.
 

Lanolin

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hmm Olympics are on

Firstborns love Olympic games and prizegivings like Academy Awards. They are just made for them and maybe validates everyones need to be first and best. I often wondered about that...and if ppl couldnt be first or best in sports and drama, it would be something else like being number 1 ranking at eveyrthing else.

I was reading a memoir written by a firstborn ministers daughter. She never had any problem having the best in everything, Never had to work for anything, it was just simply given to her because she was the eldest and the firstborn. She was thankful to God for having such wonderful parents which was great to read....but!

It got a bit tiring constantly reading she always had the best of everything, honestly. If she was not already priveliged it would have been a totally different story.
 

Lanolin

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the other bio I read recently was about Meryl Streep.
again, a firstborn, and similarly everything was given to her simply cos she was firstborn...so there was never any need to overcome anything, struggle, or audition countless times. Her mum instilled a belief in her that she was perfectly capable of doing anything she put her mind to, and she did. (reading of all the awards she has won and been nominated for is rather tiring)

This is not really how mums treat their second borns or later children though, second borns get told all the things they cannot do, or they are not old enough for, or that they havent done as well as their eldest sibling. They get told to wait and see. I just find that interesting if not a bit sad. The second born is automatically the also-ran.

When I read about siblings like queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret, of course the contrast could not be greater. Or sisters like Jacqueline and Lee Bouvier. Prince William and Harry. What do you do if you are constantly treated as second best? You might have a trickle down effect but you will always be regarded as inferior. Though thats hard when we live in a world of firstborn privelige. Even the terms 'first world, second world, third world' are terms causally labelling things. Nobody really wants to be second or third do they?

Jesus did not have any problems making things happen...things came naturally to him as well being the firstborn as well. Although...the risk is always on the firstborn because when Jesus was born, king Herod just ordered all the firstborn of Bethlehem under two to be killed. so maybe there is a hidden cost to being firstborn.

anyway...just some thoughts. If you are in this priveliged firstborn position, great, all power to you. You dont even have to even think about it. Things always go your way right?
 

HumbleOne

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I try and get stuff done. Depends on then situation.
 

BrotherMike

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I don’t like being in control or being controlled. Team work is what I strive for. I have led when needed but that’s not my preference.
 

Lanolin

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I don’t like being in control or being controlled. Team work is what I strive for. I have led when needed but that’s not my preference.
I think thats the ideal
but in reality doesnt happen very often. If I had tried to team up with my older sister she would push me away. The firstborn tends to assume they will always be first.
however when she leaves and does her own thing that means I have to do my thing on my own. If Im getting people on board with me it has to be if they want to not because Im forcing them to. Although sometimes its frustrating when nobody takes any initiative.
 

SomeDisciple

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I like to make it happen. It does depend on the situation, though. I don't wait to go along with just any 'others', but if there is a matter of authority, I request permission to make it happen... just in case. I am never denied, though, because I am awesome (not really).

I feel like that is what being a man is for... I mean, if I just sat around waiting for people, I'd turn into a fossil.
 

Lanolin

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I like to make it happen. It does depend on the situation, though. I don't wait to go along with just any 'others', but if there is a matter of authority, I request permission to make it happen... just in case. I am never denied, though, because I am awesome (not really).

I feel like that is what being a man is for... I mean, if I just sat around waiting for people, I'd turn into a fossil.
well a lot of womanhood seems to be waiting, which is dead boring to be honest. When theres no men around we women just go and do everything ourselves.

The weird thing is if you do hang out with a bunch of women and everyones sitting round chatting and stuff about nothing ...and some women are content to do that, but nothing ever gets done because they expect a man to take control, or they have to wait for their husbands who are slowpokes. I just find that rather limiting.

and Im like what are you waiting for permission? And they are like we have no idea what to do. I just feel a bit dumbed down when thats the case. When women dont use their brains and BOAST that they dont know stuff Im like what planet are you on. Did someone eat your brain cos it sure feels like it.
 

Lanolin

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Is it easier to ask forgiveness than get permission?

True or False?