Moral dilemma...

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JimJimmers

JimJimmers

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Hello folks, I have been AWOL for a while. Yesterday I encountered a situation that I thought would make a fun discussion.

There's a guy I'll call "Jim Jimmers"[SUP]1[/SUP], who was in a DIY store yesterday. He came across a woman trying to get a quart of paint off a shelf, but there was one of those big wheeled ladders in the way. She was trying to move the ladder, but the rubber pads were down and she didn't know how to retract them.

Jim didn't see any employees handy, so he just went over and clicked the wheels down, moved the ladder and then dropped the pads back down. The lady was very appreciative and said he was her "Good Samaritan".

Now, Jim didn't see any signage that said not to move the ladders, but he's pretty sure Home Depot isn't too keen on customers manhandling 2-story tall ladders in their stores. At the time, it seemed like the most expedient thing to do, but that doesn't make it right. What does everyone think?

(Just for the record, Jim never would have jumped in a forklift and moved it, unless it was on a customer's back.)



[SUP]1.[/SUP]Not his real name.
 
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Shouryu

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Eh. I do that all the time. Some places, the employees are really good about making sure that equipment like that isn't unattended, kind of making it a moot point. But if they leave it, and it's inconvenience, then I'll usually "adjust" things as long as I'm certain it's safe.
 
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MissCris

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What?! Every time I've ever gone to Home Depot, the employees won't leave me alone! I'm gonna start shopping at the one near you.

Anyway, I guess the "right" thing would have been going and hunting down an employee, waiting twenty minutes for them to finally come over, and letting them do their job. But...

Who has time for that?

I dunno, I'd have moved the ladder too. And maybe started straightening shelves and sweeping floors, and offering to help lost customers locate the wire cutters and explaining the benefits of LED lighting.
 
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kenthomas27

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So, Jacob ...I-I mean Jim, you were in the Haran Depot when you dreamed of this ladder? So the bigger dilemma, really, is whether we achieve salvation by grace or by works, isn't it Jacob? I believe your disengagement of the rubber pads is key. What you were doing was actually was moving this link - this stairway if you will - to another location. In effect, it could be said that the bridge between heaven and earth that God set in place by His mercy was moved by your works so that others would benefit by your witness. So you have actually answered the dilemma that it is indeed by Grace that salvation is achieved but by works that we provide witness and news of that Grace.

Way to go!
 
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_Mastermind77_

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Wowzers... That was a very artistic description and explanation of a simple act. Accurate, I would say, but wow. I admire your intellect

I would have moved the ladder too. Helping other is more important than following the rules sometimes.
 
JimJimmers

JimJimmers

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kenthomas27 said:
So, Jacob ...I-I mean Jim, you were in the Haran Depot when you dreamed of this ladder? So the bigger dilemma, really, is whether we achieve salvation by grace or by works, isn't it Jacob? I believe your disengagement of the rubber pads is key. What you were doing was actually was moving this link - this stairway if you will - to another location. In effect, it could be said that the bridge between heaven and earth that God set in place by His mercy was moved by your works so that others would benefit by your witness. So you have actually answered the dilemma that it is indeed by Grace that salvation is achieved but by works that we provide witness and news of that Grace.

Way to go!
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Y'know Ken, there's a reason I didn't post in Bible Discussion :p

What would you have done, Ken? Moved the ladder with the power of your beard?
 
Grace-Like-Rain

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I'd have totally moved the ladder. The woman was trying to move it herself anyway. I can't imagine that the employees would get upset about something like that. A forklift, perhaps. A ladder? Nah...
 
PopClick

PopClick

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What you need to do next time, is go to Home Depot wearing a nifty orange vest. You can move any darn ladder in the store after that, in fact you can move most of the equipment, half of the forklifts, and two thirds of the display toilets.

You can also take a ride on the paint mixer, but your butt will hurt afterwards.
 
Nautilus

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Meh one of my best friends works for Lowe's which is literally the same thing and he is like, we don't care. We put signage on them so they can't sue us if they get hurt, but if they want to move them it's on them.

Plus it was for a girl I mean come one, who could blame you?
 
zeroturbulence

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JimJimmers said:
Hello folks, I have been AWOL for a while. Yesterday I encountered a situation that I thought would make a fun discussion.

There's a guy I'll call "Jim Jimmers"[SUP]1[/SUP], who was in a DIY store yesterday. He came across a woman trying to get a quart of paint off a shelf, but there was one of those big wheeled ladders in the way. She was trying to move the ladder, but the rubber pads were down and she didn't know how to retract them.

Jim didn't see any employees handy, so he just went over and clicked the wheels down, moved the ladder and then dropped the pads back down. The lady was very appreciative and said he was her "Good Samaritan".

Now, Jim didn't see any signage that said not to move the ladders, but he's pretty sure Home Depot isn't too keen on customers manhandling 2-story tall ladders in their stores. At the time, it seemed like the most expedient thing to do, but that doesn't make it right. What does everyone think?

(Just for the record, Jim never would have jumped in a forklift and moved it, unless it was on a customer's back.)



[SUP]1.[/SUP]Not his real name.
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I think this JimJimmers is a swell guy for what he did. The world needs more JimJimmers! :rolleyes:
 
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Wandering_Here

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Last time I was at Home Depot there was a ladder in my way. An employee walked over and moved it for me, then told me to feel free to move it myself if it was still in my way. So I'm taking that as permission to do so every time there's a ladder in my way, in any Home Depot, from here on out.
 
gypsygirl

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yeah, i move stuff like that all the time. i also don't think twice about climbing up on things, grabbing stuff, and helping myself when someone isn't around.

oh, and if someone else was in need of help, i'd be doubly more likely to help.

oh, and i think it's super sweet that you did that. : )
 
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