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Ok, I can't lie anymore. I've always loved elves, vulcans are pretty cool too. So can't we all just get along?

The vast expanse between stars, I give to the vulcans. May they seek Truth within it.
The seas of the worlds, I give to the pirates. May they seek true riches beyond imagining.
The land between the seas, I give to the elves. That they may... do whatever elves do with it.
 
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Ok, I can't lie anymore. I've always loved elves, vulcans are pretty cool too. So can't we all just get along?

The vast expanse between stars, I give to the vulcans. May they seek Truth within it.
The seas of the worlds, I give to the pirates. May they seek true riches beyond imagining.
The land between the seas, I give to the elves. That they may... do whatever elves do with it.
Well this thread is titled Peace. So yes, we all can get along. Well, except for the Orcs... Gurth 'ni yrch! (death to the Orcs!) :D
 
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There was that time you said that one thing that made me want to pick up my computer and throw it at you. Just kidding..

For real, I like what the mother of Snackers said about using the spirit as a guide basically. I know for myself, if I do or say something wrong many times I know immediately or shortly thereafter. We just have to make sure we have our heart and ears open to that. Of course as imperfect humans we can be too stubborn or too blind to realize things until after the fact too. Been there, done that.

Also, I'm well aware that sometimes we can say or do things that offend others even though we've committed no wrong or sin.

Keep seeking Him and improvement. :) I hope we all do that.
 
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Don't mind me....I'm just here to like all of the posts in the bottom half of this thread.... *whistles*
 
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Well this thread is titled Peace. So yes, we all can get along. Well, except for the Orcs... Gurth 'ni yrch! (death to the Orcs!) :D
Ambassador Sarek would like to propose an alliance of Elf and Vulcan kind against the Orcs if the Elves would agree to opening up a front against the Klingons.
 
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I haven't met a warbird yet that could stand up to an elvish arrow!
 
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Ambassador Sarek would like to propose an alliance of Elf and Vulcan kind against the Orcs if the Elves would agree to opening up a front against the Klingons.
My father, Lord Elrond of Rivendell, accepts this alliance. As a symbol of his loyalty to this alliance, he wishes you to take this ring that he found among a traveling hobbit. Together, elves and vulcans shall rule side by side. We will prosper and create peace!

.......
 
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Splendid, I'll fetch both lembas and Romulan ale to mark the occasion.
 

Snackersmom

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I find it is best to find any small character flaw which they posses and isolate it. Then after I've found this flaw, it must be the reason for the offense. ;)
I know you meant this as a joke, and it is funny.....but it also isn't too far from what I have experienced in previous verbal tennis matches with a certain SOMEBODY *cough* who shall remain nameless. ;)

Nah, I actually removed the answer to your from my original post on purpose. I already knew how I would respond before I clicked the "Submit" button on the OP. I hope for now simply answering by saying "with God's help" gives you any reassurance you need. :S
I don't personally need reassurance, I was just trying to determine if it was worth my time to bring anything up. It's not for my own feelings that I even bothered to post in this thread, I did it because I thought I should, and also out of concern for any future relationships you might have. Because, even though you're often the mentos to my metaphorical diet coke, I still care about you and want you to keep growing.

So, here's a tip, you can take it or leave it: When someone politely asks you to stop calling them something they abhor, disregarding that request is only going to further cement in their mind that you couldn't care less what they think. Said person may still love and care about you, but they PROBABLY aren't going to want to spend much time talking to you.

One more tip, just for free: Listen to what niceguyJ said, he knows what he's talking about.
 
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So, here's a tip, you can take it or leave it: When someone politely asks you to stop calling them something they abhor, disregarding that request is only going to further cement in their mind that you couldn't care less what they think. Said person may still love and care about you, but they PROBABLY aren't going to want to spend much time talking to you.
I am sorry that you have been so adversely affected by this. I guess I didn't truly understand how great your disgust for it was. Most people I know aren't crazy about nicknames when they're first mentioned. Everyone deals with it in a different way, but all of them, including me, have always seemed to accept the name as a sign of affection.

So now I'm left in a bit of a conundrum. I do call you snackersmom, and very rarely nichole, but using someones full SN or real name on a forum seems far too formal when the post is sarcastic or joking in nature. Many here have shortened it to 'snackers' but it seems wrong to me. So, what nicknames can I safely use that won't upset you?

If you'd like, you're welcome to call me... Clappay, Drka Drka, Towelhead, Doctor Dee.
 
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I am sorry that you have been so adversely affected by this. I guess I didn't truly understand how great your disgust for it was. Most people I know aren't crazy about nicknames when they're first mentioned. Everyone deals with it in a different way, but all of them, including me, have always seemed to accept the name as a sign of affection.

So now I'm left in a bit of a conundrum. I do call you snackersmom, and very rarely nichole, but using someones full SN or real name on a forum seems far too formal when the post is sarcastic or joking in nature. Many here have shortened it to 'snackers' but it seems wrong to me. So, what nicknames can I safely use that won't upset you?

If you'd like, you're welcome to call me... Clappay, Drka Drka, Towelhead, Doctor Dee.
Maybe PM someone and that gets you to know them better, I think, by now, I've been PM'd by just about all of the milady variety and all should KNOW my heart is after Him. I WANT all miladies to see what I say as what julieannie's said before aptly: edify.

Miladies see myself kidding them if I say something that potentially may be taken wrongly, I hope, I pray, they know this is just me in being in all my greenness to who are ALL miladies and princesses of the King.

but lightnin', bro, you will know, like Nichole says, their will be a conviction of the Spirit, she is helping all understand all ladies better. Listen to what they say, the Lord made them, like us, all different.

So, if you feel there IS a potential thing having been said dishonoring a lady's request, then, like snackersmom says , she won't be apt to talk to you, much. Again, PM someone if said thingoffends, remember, we all have said doctrines believed, differences in belief are quite possible between two same denomination believers because of the way the Spirit teaches us all truth individually different ways, the same truth, but different uderstanding, different timings to understand.

So, just keep on keelig on, and, like I said, you took both spiritual gifts tests, maybe, a mentioning of the top 3 is in order . This too will help others who may not understand you understand you better, even so, some, speaking of doctrine differences, will laugh when you mention your SG's because they feel 'gifts' died out after Acts and the time of Paul's missionary journeys.

Just so you don't feel alone.
My top 3:
Exhortation
Faith
Evangelism

Maybe list your bottom 3 too, showing weakness is a great thing, showing strengthis good too, we must be bold, pure, moving for Him,as He moves us, a vessel. But in our weakness Hisstrength is perfect .

Through all this thinking of asking on c.c. for forgiveness of others, look, too at your own life, maybe, God is bringing you toward asking forgiveness of someone hurt , either, guy or gal.

How will I know, green?

The Lord leads, Matt 5:22-23, you're young, Christbro, just keep following Him, John 21:20-22, live full in His plan for you, and, never feel guilty, that is the Enemy who convicts us negatively, God is love, know this, know Him in this way, live full in His wonderful grace, ACCEPT His will in your life and,grace is everywhere but God's love burns with a perpetual, constant, abounding passionate response to our
times in life we err, stopping up our sins with, yes, grace, but also mercy, that is ”new every morning.” Just live His life for you, walk in His ways, He leads, lightninbro, your response should be easy....

” ...follow thou Me.” John 21:22 .

Again, too, by your being humble here with this OP, you allow others to get GOODNESS falling onto.their life by, IF they have something against you, can choose forbiveness, which is a great spiritual blessing. Gift :)
 

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I am sorry that you have been so adversely affected by this.
I have not been adversely affected by this at all. This isn't about me, it's about you finally getting through your head that you can't just go around disrespecting people and expect them to still want to be friends with you. JimJimmers is right, that was NOT an apology, you basically said "I'm sorry you're so touchy and emotionally fragile". I'm not hurt in the least, I'm just frustrated that you're letting your pride get in the way of your spiritual growth. To err is human, to ADMIT you've erred is divine.

I guess I didn't truly understand how great your disgust for it was. Most people I know aren't crazy about nicknames when they're first mentioned. Everyone deals with it in a different way, but all of them, including me, have always seemed to accept the name as a sign of affection.

So now I'm left in a bit of a conundrum. I do call you snackersmom, and very rarely nichole, but using someones full SN or real name on a forum seems far too formal when the post is sarcastic or joking in nature. Many here have shortened it to 'snackers' but it seems wrong to me. So, what nicknames can I safely use that won't upset you?
Hmmm......so, out of 4 potential names you could have used, you chose the ONE that I had TWICE previously informed you I didn't like, because the other 3 (that I had no problem with) didn't suit YOU? I must say, that is very interesting logic indeed. *Says a prayer for dan's future wife*

At this point, I don't much care what you call me. This isn't about nicknames, it's about respect. You have also previously publicly described my faith as "ignorant", and refused to issue even a private apology for it. I don't CARE that you think my faith is ignorant, but it was still rude of you to say so......an apology was in order, but SOMEBODY'S pride was too big to allow that. Did that offend me? No. But I do find it impossible to have a fruitful conversation with someone who doesn't respect me enough to apologize for saying something that most would consider to be pretty insulting.

I'm certainly not holding my breath for a real apology. I didn't post expecting for you to "make things right", I only did it in the hope that you might learn a tiny bit about swallowing pride and dying to self.
 
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Snackersmom...

Out of curiosity, what name(s) do you not like or like? I am unaware that there was a name(s) you'd prefer not being called and I am sure I probably put my foot in my mouth at some point. You can always just pm me and tell me.
 

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Don't worry about it, Chrissy. :) It wasn't so much the actual name but the refusal to stop when I asked him to. You have nothing to worry about, but I'll drop you a pm anyway :)
 
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I have not been adversely affected by this at all. This isn't about me, it's about you finally getting through your head that you can't just go around disrespecting people and expect them to still want to be friends with you. JimJimmers is right, that was NOT an apology, you basically said "I'm sorry you're so touchy and emotionally fragile". I'm not hurt in the least, I'm just frustrated that you're letting your pride get in the way of your spiritual growth. To err is human, to ADMIT you've erred is divine.
Nichole, I said exactly what I meant; I didn't call you 'touchy' or 'emotionally fragile' because that's not what I was trying to say. The thought never crossed my mind. You are different, as a result of that I misunderstood you. This misunderstanding was a result of all of my previous experiences and a mistaken picture of your personality in my mind. And yes, that first sentence was not intended as an apology. The rest of the paragraph, however, was. I admitted that I had misunderstood you; I was apologizing for this misunderstanding. I am apologizing for this misunderstanding.

Hmmm......so, out of 4 potential names you could have used, you chose the ONE that I had TWICE previously informed you I didn't like, because the other 3 (that I had no problem with) didn't suit YOU? I must say, that is very interesting logic indeed. *Says a prayer for dan's future wife*
I'm not following here. I didn't intentionally do something that you didn't like, but rather misunderstood your dislike. As previously mentioned, to me and all of my friends, nicknames are a sign of endearment and affection. A sign that they have a special connection to you that is unique. In my experience, playful annoyance is a way of returning this; encouraging it, not discouraging it. I am truly sorry that I mistook your two comments as playful.

At this point, I don't much care what you call me. This isn't about nicknames, it's about respect.
This is where my struggling is really kicking in. The instance you chose to point out initially seems to just be a matter of my own misunderstanding, not an issue of disrespect. :/ In truth, I thought even now when you raised the issue in this thread, that you did so playfully. Until I read 'abhor' which led me to believe that you were actually 'adversely affected'. :S

You have also previously publicly described my faith as "ignorant", and refused to issue even a private apology for it. I don't CARE that you think my faith is ignorant, but it was still rude of you to say so......an apology was in order, but SOMEBODY'S pride was too big to allow that. Did that offend me? No. But I do find it impossible to have a fruitful conversation with someone who doesn't respect me enough to apologize for saying something that most would consider to be pretty insulting.

I'm certainly not holding my breath for a real apology. I didn't post expecting for you to "make things right", I only did it in the hope that you might learn a tiny bit about swallowing pride and dying to self.
I can understand why you were hesitant to post. Metaphorically speaking, tearing the bandaid off of this old wound could easily open the door to slip back into the original disagreement. As for me, I have always been of the opinion that misunderstandings lead to pain and destroy love. I seek understanding and find love is built along with it. I'm afraid that without a better understanding of the offense, I can't give a heartfelt apology. If you are willing to reopen that door, I would like to try and gain this level of understanding; right now it seems like you were upset about an offensive potential, not an offense itself. I'm not sure if this is how you intended it. :/
 
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niceguyJ

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I think I understand where Nichole is coming from, so maybe I can give this a shot. I'm not going to try to speak FOR her...I just want to point out what I see, in case it's helpful.


Snackersmom says:
"You have also previously publicly described my faith as "ignorant", and refused to issue even a private apology for it. "

That's a biggie. Disagreements are going to happen, but there is a more respectful way to disagree. That's pretty strong.

As far as the name thing goes:
She told you to stop calling her a certain name, and was very serious about it. You didn't stop, so she took that as disrespect. It makes sense.
I think the moral of that story is: Make sure you know if someone is joking or not. If you're unsure, just simply ask.
Assumptions can make a person look like a KJV donkey. I should know; I've brayed a time or fifty myself.

Not everyone is going to get along great, understand each other well, etc. Some people just operate on entirely different wavelengths than others, so to speak. Sometimes it's best to just keep it civil and light, but don't try to tread past that in such a case. It can be better for both involved. Just a thought.
Ultimately, listen to God's leading.
 
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I have the quote available. If Nichole is not opposed to allowing it to be shared, I will certainly do so. It may help, but might not be worth opening back up.
 
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niceguyJ

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I'm not sure that it matters at this point.
I think it boils down to this: You may never fully understand where she is coming from.
You could pull up quotes, but why? Is it to try to prove your innocence? I'm not asking you to answer that for me, or here at all. It's just something to examine.

If I were in your shoes, I think I'd just apologize for anything I said or did that was hurtful or rude...whether it was intentional or not.
I don't think completely understanding the situation is necessary in order to do that sincerely. It's just about recognizing that something was done that effected another person in a negative way.

I'll shut up and bow out now. That's all I've got.