Sanctimonious-ness

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Lanolin

Lanolin

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Well Solomon didnt take his own advice it seems
I dont really know anyone who spent their whole life in church but Im not about to judge those who havent
I dont think children make their own swine pit, sometimes their parents do dump them in it...because of THEIR parents leading all the way back to Adam and Eve so...in the end its sort of part of human nature to be weak isnt it?
We can never go through life without sinning only Jesus managed to do so for us. If we dont know Him how do we ever have the chance. But its up to someone to tell us the gospel or God to reveal Himself to us. But then its down to us to listen and take action.

however, thrown in to coomplicate matters is the adversary (Satan) to throw us off the path. Something Job never really found out cos he mistakenly assumed he was ALWAYS going to be protected. Job really was being self righteous and moany when he whined about how perfect he was.
 
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apwall21

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Lanolin said:
Job really was being self righteous and moany when he whined about how perfect he was.
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Excepting that until he started talking, he really was perfect, none of his friends could find a single thing, nor could Job. Even God didn't drop a list of sins that caused Job to deserve what Satan wrought, though certainly God would know these things, and could have justified himself in the eyes of Job's friends, if he ever needs/ed it in the first place, for allowing Satan the leeway. Where Job suffered the loss of family and things, he never lost his hope in God, until his friends spent a day arguing with him over why he had done something wrong.

More importantly, God never lost his hope in Job, or his willingness to show up and make it right when Job did make a mistake. And when Job repented of the attitude brought, possibly in part by having to defend himself, not even a deed, just the mindset, God restored Job for all that was lost. And more. And even Job's friends were saved by Job for their sins in that matter.
 
Lanolin

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apwall21 said:
Excepting that until he started talking, he really was perfect, none of his friends could find a single thing, nor could Job. Even God didn't drop a list of sins that caused Job to deserve what Satan wrought, though certainly God would know these things, and could have justified himself in the eyes of Job's friends, if he ever needs/ed it in the first place, for allowing Satan the leeway. Where Job suffered the loss of family and things, he never lost his hope in God, until his friends spent a day arguing with him over why he had done something wrong.

More importantly, God never lost his hope in Job, or his willingness to show up and make it right when Job did make a mistake. And when Job repented of the attitude brought, possibly in part by having to defend himself, not even a deed, just the mindset, God restored Job for all that was lost. And more. And even Job's friends were saved by Job for their sins in that matter.
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You missed the part about Elihu pointing out that someone who thought he was perfect was missing the point. Job didnt have the relationship with God that he really wanted to have because though Job was righetous in everything he wasnt God Himself to know everything. It didnt have anything to do with Job, it was rather, Satan testing that relationship. Job did start to make everything about himself and how good Job was. Rather than who God was.
 
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Lanolin said:
You missed the part about Elihu pointing out that someone who thought he was perfect was missing the point. Job didnt have the relationship with God that he really wanted to have because though Job was righetous in everything he wasnt God Himself to know everything. It didnt have anything to do with Job, it was rather, Satan testing that relationship. Job did start to make everything about himself and how good Job was. Rather than who God was.
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What amazes me is guys like Noah, who didn't even have a Bible.
 
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Lanolin said:
Is this something you think of often?

I have to admit it is an offputting trait that I see in some people and I wonder how others can live with someone who always thinks themselves as 'better' than others or more moral

I was out with someone and we were just walking down the street in our own neighbourhood when she just started remarking on someones lawn that hadnt been mown for a while, and then to my annoyance started judging these unknown occupants on their moral laziness.

I was quite distrurbed by her flat judgements on people she DIDNT even know.
why the need to busybody into other peoples business? Maybe their lawn mower broke down, or someone has been sick or whatever. But even if they were lazy, whats the point in telling ME about it when I dont know them and cant do anything about it.

The grass is going to grow and the weeds will grow anyway, and maybe it will be a haven for wildlife and increase oxygen to the atmosphere because of increase photosynthesis! Is there something morally wrong with an uncut lawn? Was she going to knock on their door and say Im so sorry, I noticed your lawn was uncut. Would you like me to call a mower service for you? It is offending my eyes. By the way, you are lazy. I just think you should know I condemn you for not getting on to it.
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I personally am happy that most of my neighbors keep their yards kept up. Because it can increase more unwanted pest. But really do not say much if they do not. Figure they are busy with life. I recently worked a job 10-12 hr shifts and 6 days a week. If my son had not kept ours up would be the same way. Best to not say anything really I agree never know the reasons.
 
Lanolin

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one of my garden friends deliberately kept her lawn uncut as she said when it flowered the bees that they kept had more food. It was grown meadow style.

Everyone else would say it was messy but it was a haven for wildlife. Some people cannot handle wildlife though. They want to exterminate everything.

However we do need bees and the beneficial insects and native birds do need places to forage. While it may look messy to us, its natures way of balancing the ecosystem.
 
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my next door neighbour has always lots of weeds but the only time we bothered them about it was when there was a big noxious one that was seeding and going into mine. Or if I was sneezing from allergies. We just wanted them to cut out the privet, but then they cut down the camellia and everything else as well on the boundary so can see right into their place.

Otherwise their yard is their business. Their son died and and its not looking that great but they did plant two fruit trees and try to make sporadic efforts to garden and look after it though.

Some people just dont have the time ...I know mine looks the way it does cos I put in the time. I had a few years when I had no work outside the home so I did a LOT of work ...outside the home in my garden lol
 
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