Self pity-thread- where we all can feel sorry for ourselves.

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Pity me Toinena because I am misunderstood:
Unles you have learned to count it all joy: "Suffer the loss of all things that we may gain Christ. We have a choise of sorrow. The sorow of the world i cant aford it would lead me to look for comfort where there is none: in ungodly woman. Yes you may say that is easy, what is your problem? You already know there is no comfort there. Yes i learned the hard way and the only recourse is seek first the Kingdom (comfort) of God and all these things shall be added unto you. I have a lady friend in a long distance relationship that i am seeking the Lord to see His perspective yet already have enough of His perspective behind me, or is it rather: The cross before me. Yes i can count it joy to suffer with Him because in a relationship here i would be distracted from "One thing needful." It seems the Lord gave me wisdom to think and I may not be so misunderstood, you decide, then again, we dont know God in our understanding and need to get past to know Him and suffering with Him helps us seek Help of His Spirit. We don't like to suffer, but we have a choice of suffering with Him or in vain. "Godly sorrow leads to repentance but worldly sorrow leads to death." The part i felt you would: Mis-understand that your house coud be God's House, to turn your morning into Joy: half of those who hear the following word think its a mesage of defeat and half: Victory. You decide, but the sad thing is, lectures dont help. We both have a cross to bear, "My Grace is sufiscient for you for my strengt is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will i Joy in infirmity, for when I am weak, then am I strong, as the power of God rests on me." "Blessed are the poor in spirit, " If we don't have need, would we come to Him? "And we know that all things work for Good to them that Love the Lord." There is mutch to say here: we don't value what we have, you and I can see this in each other, but we need to see it in ourselves. The reason the grass apears greaner on the other side is because from a distance we dont see the durt. Did you hear about the scientist who wanted to compete with God to create lile? The Lord would have said ok but you get your own dirt. That can be interpreted 2 diferent ways. The not so obvious: Value what you have. Good speed sister.
Thank you, brother. I am fine. As for grass being greener on the other side, well... it is all snow here, so the snow is white for everyone.

This self pity thread is all ironic. But I do get frustrated about not being able to get out of my house. I should have been shopping today, but I am not able to use my car or go there by wheelchair. I am fine, though. Plenty of food and dogs keep me company.
 

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Felt I owed you an explanation: I work and live in a recovery center, have been here over 2 years, so am here practically all the time, in the skid row part of town: mostly its good to have immunity, being exposed to the disease. The last Job, for nine months, also while living here, worked in construction, building cement forms. Liked the work better but got burnt out and was vulnerable to temptation on Saturdays, about looking for a reward. The burn out may have something to do with age, but mostly, was not yet able to count it all Joy. The obvious solution, that I had to quit the job and enter into rest in God. Was off work for tree and half months and during this time spent 10 days camping on the beach to seek the Lord for what's next. After being there 7 days, (Was still in touch with the lady friend on messenger) woke up from a dream an the interpretation, that I still had an idol of a woman in my heart. That evening before going to bed, cried to the Lord, telling Him I'm sorry and went to bed resolved to leave in the morning, accepting my failure. At midnight I woke up and God's Grace showed up, He said: What is your purpose for being here? A little surprised answered quickly: To find my purpose. He said: Seek first the Kingdom of God and all these things shall be added. I asked Him a few related question, should I continue my study? He said: Don't forget your purpose (meaning, seeking Him is more important than what I do: concerning the study, Journey to enter into rest, or whatever else we do, not to forget Him. This implies to wake from our dream and the disappointment we are in to work for God: to bring us to Him). The Last question I asked: Should I leave in the morning or stay? He said: Continue to appear before God. His answer was not so much with staying or going but continually. Though I did stay and the following day went for a walk to the end of the Island; the million dollar homes, not distracting me, but a nostalgic feeling that I would never pas this way again, lesson learned, no need to return: We find Him where we are, as we seek Him first in everything. "My favorite verse that I can't live (fulfil) without His Spirit. "Count it all Joy, pray without ceasing (not necessarily with words), in everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you." You are bound to misunderstand some of this, and some things we have to learn on our own and not "by the foolishness of preaching," as it's following Him whom we have believed, we learn of Him to be conformed to His image: to be friends of God, clothe in His humility. To suffer with Him, to have abandoned our life of distraction. The last thing to abandon, we can't but by His Spirit as it's connected to Fear of loosing a life for ourselves, "He came to deliver those who through fear of death, were held their whole lifetime in bondage.

Back to what I was saying at the beginning, I live and work in a recovery building, doing maintenance and janitor work 4 days a week, it's all I can handle. Quite monotone and tempting to look for comfort elsewhere, but there is nowhere else to go where I would not fall backwards. There is only the leading of the Spirit from Here. May we acknowledge the Lord in our weakness where we need to find Him and not be distracted by the areas where we think we are strong and not poor in spirit. God has a Way of turning things upside down, so that we find Him in weakness and distracted by strength, and we struggle still, with desire: to be, strong, in control. It's when we are weak that we have a choice between Godly sorrow or self pity, when we are strong we don't need neither.
Your brother Ray
 

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Pity me because I pity the fool who pities himself. Horrible pun concluded:cool:
It's sad that I don't pity the poor who pities himself much as they tend to complain much and lack compassion with that. it's not fair to say pity me for that, as it's where I need godly sorrow: where unresolved anger turned inward as depression turns bitter. Need to admit I lack compassion, that spells out, I lack abiding in God where there is Compassion. Admitting is half the battle, praying for one another the other half. Neither do I pray for others much and here also hope that admitting is the beginning of change. Lord Have mercy on us, to have your mercy for those who suffer, chained in darkness.
 

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Just looked at the time, 3 in the morning, part of me was satisfied with what I wrote, until I realised, took 5 hours. The part that evaluates progress doesn't seem to be satisfied. Did you know, "Those who compare themselves among themselves are not wise." We are at the end of the world, and maybe we should be pitied for the condition we are in, but God is merciful, and turning to Him is what matters. Why I stopped here is I could relate, and to go on is forgetting the past, forgetting about ourselves: emotional ties of love and sorrow, hard to say which is easier to forget, as we cling to comfort out of depravity and it's in our depravity that we need to find Him. May we find Him in our pain and know it's sufficient: that we can't ad anything but to continually return to Him to be healed of a wounded spirit, by His Spirit. Amen
 
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The worst thing that has happened in my life has done more good than bad. I actually re-dedicated my life to Christ in one of the darkest moments in my life, and I have matured beyond what I could ever have imagined through this process. It is true that "for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.". Even if a situation is sent by the enemy, God can dine with us in the presence of our enemies and turn our life around through the refining fire. Instead of feeling self-pity, ask God how you can mature and come out stronger.
 

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Very well said in your post Cole, yet we still need to fail and admit our failure to God and or the person we failed or distracted us from the Lord. Admitting self pity to turn to Godly sorrow. To many christians get cough up with a good confession that they dont live up to, afraid to admit their pain to become real. When this is the case it becomes wishful thinking: faith works by presumption, instead of admitting and have Faith that works by Love of God. Addmiting is on the Way to freadom, did Jesus ever admit, you would think not, depens how you look at it, He admited to all, needing Marie Magdalene's apreciation, encouragment and anointing for burial on His way to the cross, and to the Father on the night of His betrayal, when His closest disciples could not pray with Him; fulfilling, "I looked and there was no one to help and wondered that there was none to uphold, so my own Right hand brought salvation to Me and my fury (reaction of His pity) upheld Me." Had His disciples been able to pray with Him could have ment that he had no need to die for us, as there would still be Compashion of God left in our hearts and there could have been a law to bring us to salvation. But obviously there is no life in us during the hour and power of darkness. Now it is coming uppon the whole world and our only escape is to behave as Jesus did: to admit we would like to feel sory for ourselves but that God's wiĺl Must be done: to have Godly sorrow for the condition we are in, for God to bring us to His death to all that is not of God. "If we suffer with Him (appart from Him we are not able) we shall rule (serve in Love) with Him." Having evidence of the Resurrection does not keep us in the Love of God: walking in His Love does. "Blessed is He who has not seen but believes."
Thanks for your encouraging letter Toinena, though i think you should have shared publicly, anything uplifting should be, there is no diferance between publick an private in heaven, we are all one in Him. I pray for you as well, It reminds me of what the Lord told me when i started working here a mont and half ago: Your not here to compete with others but to learn to percevere.
Got up refreshed this morning, may you also know and see difrently. May you be pleased to wait, as there is nowhere to go from here. Lord may we be encouraged to Live by your Spirit and count it all Joy to be free from leaning on our understanding. May our joy be complete to be likeminded in Your Truth. May we not forget our purpose. Amen