sex b4 marriage???

[sup]

ZERMANTIC, MARRIAGE DOES NOT ONLY APPLIES TO MAN AND WOMAN BUT WITH CHRIST AND THE CHURCH AND BEFORE WE LIVE AND RAIN WITH HIM THERE WILL BE A GREAT MARRIAGE SUPPER. REV 19,20, 21
CHECK ADAM AND EVE, IF YOU LOOK DEEPER IN THE CHAPTER THEY WHERE MARRIED(EVERY MAN SHALL LEAVE IS MOTHER AND FATHER AND CLEAVE...............GENESIS)AND (BOTH NAKED AND NOT ASHAMED)AND THAT WAS WRITTEN AFTER LEAVE AND CLEAVE. READ......WHICH MEANS THAT THEY HAD SEX AFTER MARRIAGE.

 

[zeromantic]

Sigh...never mind...

 

[Kindbachelor47]

Christianity is not a religion it is a reality. Our heavenly Father knows best and isn't setting rules to live by for any reason except he knows what is best for us. I'm not as young as many on this site. I have been married 3 times. 3 times I had sex before the I do's and 3 times I have had divorce papers handed to me. As for me, I will remain celebet until I have a wife. God has taught me in no uncertain terms that sex belongs between a husband and wife and no where else. It is a hard lesson too learn so please take my advise and listen to our Heavenly Father and abstain.

 

[gigitgirl]

I really don't think people should have sex before marriage. I just don't believe in it. If you really love the person, and they really love you, then you should wait. A lot of my friends don't think the way I think. I have a friend who is really in love with her boyfriend. She's only 16 and now she's pregnant. It just ruined her life and she is such a nice person. It makes me sad that her life is now that much harder.

 

[zeromantic]

Look, I know this is a sensitive topic, and I absolutely respect people who hold off on sex before marriage, but I see no biblical principle behind it. If there is one, I'd like to know what it is and where it is in the Bible. I'm not being cute, I just wonder where it is.

And anyone who is having unprotected sex before marriage--well, one of the consequences is pregnancy and the nightmare that follows. And there's the possibility of STDs, too, I understand all that.

But in the Bible? Where?

 

[Abing]

Additional info:

Paul writes in I Corinthians 6:9-11, "Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God"

that's just one of the many passages that talks about fornication, and fornication is AKA sex outside marriage so yeah. it is CLEAR

 

[Abing]

And 1 Corinthians 6:13b, 18 tells us, "Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without (outside) the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body."

1 Corinthians 10:6-8 reads, "Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand."

Galatians 5:19-21 reads, "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these, adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness ... of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5, "For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: that every one of you should know how to possess his vessel (body) in sanctification and honor, not in lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which do not know God."

Ephesians 5:1-3, 5, "Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given Himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling savor. But fornication, and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not once be named among you, as becometh saints...For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God."

hope those help

 

[eccentricity]

ok.. seriously? what a disasterous mess of bible ignorance. it DOES NOT matter AT ALL what our opinions and feeling are! we christians are bought with a price and we are to be servant to the master. the BIBLE is infinitly more important than any silly, worldly, fleshly feelings and opinions and stories and experiences that you may ever have.

 

[Dax]

Way to go eccentricity, a marriage is undefile.

 

[Dax]

Read Matthew 19, all of it and tell me what do you think. okay?

 

[zeromantic]

Thanks Abing. I think your answer fits my question nicely.

 

[zeromantic]

And for those who think that typing in capital letters, sarcasm, and being obnoxious somehow makes your point--it doesn't. Let us be kind to people with legitimate questions and needs.

 

[faithhopelove73]

There is no Hebrew or Greek word used in the Bible that is precisely defined to refer to sex before marriage. The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality, but the question arises, is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer, “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying because people cannot control themselves and so many people are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married, so they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

So, since 1 Corinthians 7:2 clearly includes sex before marriage in the definition of sexual immorality, all of the Bible verses that condemn sexual immorality as being sinful also condemn sex before marriage as sinful. Sex before marriage is included in the biblical definition of sexual immorality. There are numerous Scriptures that declare sex before marriage to be a sin (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:13,18, 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

Far too often we focus on the “recreation” aspect of sex without recognizing that there is another aspect – “procreation.” Sex within marriage is pleasurable, and God designed it that way. God wants men and women to enjoy sexual activity within the confines of marriage. Song of Solomon and several other Bible passages (such as Proverbs 5:19) clearly describe the pleasure aspect of sex. However, the couple must understand that God’s intent for sex includes producing children. Thus, for a couple to engage in sex before marriage is doubly wrong—they are enjoying pleasures not intended for them, and they are taking a chance of creating a human life outside of the family structure God intended for every child.

While practicality does not determine right from wrong, if the Bible's message on sex before marriage was obeyed there would be far fewer sexually transmitted diseases, far fewer abortions, far fewer un-wed mothers / unwanted pregnancies, and far fewer children growing up without both parents in their lives. Abstinence is God’s only policy when it comes to sex before marriage. Abstinence saves lives, protects babies, gives sexual relations the proper value, and most importantly, honors God.

God bless you all!

 

[MissMaryMac]

"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." (Hebrews 13:4)

"Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." (1 Corinthians 7:1-2, KJV)

There's a lot more verses that talk about sexual immorality that could be posted. But honestly, if you feel that guilty doing something, and regret it that much later, is there really any question whether it's right or wrong? I'm not saying everyone does. But a lot of people do.

 

[MissMaryMac]

And I missed the last page of this thread, which is why I repeated.

 

[RoboOp]

Hey thanks Merryheart but I think zeromantic wasn't trying to be controversial. Maybe it appeared that way because we've had a lot of that from some others recently. But I think he's not one of them. I think he had an honest question about something that's kinda taken for granted and I guess it's good that he wasn't ashamed to ask the question. But yah it's in the Bible a good bit, covered under the word "fornication/fornicators" (thanks Abing).

It should be something that we already know is wrong -- without a Bible verse -- but since premarital sex is just so common and "normal" in our society, I guess God's law/command on this matter does actually have to be taught. By the way we're gonna have an online weekly Bible study in the BibleStudy room starting next week, and guess what the first topic is? Sexual purity. All are invited. (Time will be announced later or you can send me chat mail.)

 

[zeromantic]

Yeah, really not trying to be controversial, and I thought Abing and Faith (and Robo) hit it nicely under "fornication." Just one of those issues that I hadn't connected properly in the Bible, and I was just wondering.

 

[RoboOp]

It's true that there does seem to be more focus on adultery, rather than fornication, in the Bible, maybe especially in the Old Testament (e.g., Proverbs mainly warns about adultery, not fornication). I think that's because in those times, people married off young (instead of staying single til age 30!), so almost everybody was either married or too young to fornicate. So perhaps the main sexual sin to deal with in those times was adultery. But fornication is definitely covered a good bit as well, both implicitly and explicitly.

 

[Annie]

Re: Sex before marriage???

Marriage was designed for this purpose. Man and woman seek for the Lord's and the Country's permission and blessing to officialy belong to each other, become "one flesh" and procreate, have a family and progress. In the Lords Realm everything has an order.
If not, why would the Lord even order marriage?

 

[jjkg]

I find it almost humerous that this is even a thread. That's like asking, "Hey guys, what do you think of lying? Or cheating? Or maybe even murder?" Ultimately it doesn't matter what 'we' think. The general term for sex outside of marriage by one who is not married is "fornication". Today's culture, and it seems to be getting worse and worse both outside as well as inside the church as well, is hell bent (pun intended), to base their beliefs on how they feel or what their desires are. Instead of obedience to Christ, they choose to live as though Christ never gave us commands to follow.
"...and He said to them, depart from me, all of you who practice 'lawlessness' OR "who choose to act as though I never gave you a law to obey", I never knew you!" Ouch.......so much for how we feel or what we think is right. Now there is nothing wrong with feelings and desires, but we must hold up even those to the light of scripture and see if they comply or contradict God's commands. "Doing" is connected to one's faith. Jesus also said, "Those who love me will obey my commands." If you say you have faith yet could care less about being obedient to Him out of a grateful heart and are concerned more about fulfilling your own desires whether they line up with scripture or not, then you do not truly love the Lord and your faith, as James puts it, is a dead faith.....it's not real. Maybe in my next post I'll tell you what I really think!