Should we tithe the biblical 10% or........?

[StandingFirmInChrist]

It's not biblical to "ostracize" someone who isnt tithing, but i believe when God gives a command, He provides a way for all of His people to obey. I see no exceptions to the 10% commitment, so i dont believe there are exceptions. However, I am not responsible for my fellow believer's tithe - I am only responsible for my own. Whether someone chooses to tithe or not is for them to deal with in their own heart. God makes it clear that NOT tithing is stealing from Him, so.... a non-tither should decide for themselves if they are okay with stealing from God, and if God is okay with them doing that. However, i dont see it in the Word as a reason to ostracize them.

I encourage you to study your Bible more. God did set limitations on the 10% command. For instance:

1. God said all the tithes, (not some) were agricultural in nature; i.e., crops and livestock. Lev 27:30-34
2. God said tithes were only to be given to Levites, widows, orphans and foreigners in Israel. Num 18:21,24,26,28; Deut 12:1,10-11; 14:28-29
3. God said you were to eat your tithes with your family, your servants, and the Levites. Deut 14:22-27

If you will diligently study the tithe, you will find that God never amended His command for tithes to be money instead of agricultural products. Nor did He ever amend the command so that people not living in Israel would be required to tithe.

The problem is, too many today do not study the Word properly. Because of this, when their pastors teach for doctrine the commandments of men, they readily believe their pastors. See Matthew 15:9 for what God thinks of those who teach for doctrine the commandments of men.

God never commanded a monetary tithe from anyone.

 

[Atwood]

Or more. Or, maybe evento, less. What do you think on this subject?

God speaks to us about work we should do to help others, , what causes we should donate time/money, too, uh, well, He does speak to me anyway in that way, I guess I won't speak for you.
Speak. Speak.
Ok, so, speak

Green, good afternoon,

If you are going to be under the Law of Moses, go whole hog, circumcision, ashes of red heifer, fringes on garment, and the rest. And note that the Law of Moses tithe was much more than 10 percent.

Don't leave out Deut 14; Don't forget the required trips to Jerusalem with the tithe and don't forget the wine and strong drink!

At the end of every three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase in the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: and the Levite, because he hath no portion nor inheritance with thee, and the sojourner, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that YHWH thy God may bless thee in all the work of thy hand which thou doest. "

Thou shalt surely tithe all the increase of thy seed, that which cometh forth from the field year by year. And thou shalt eat before YHWH thy God, in the place which he shall choose, to cause his name to dwell there, the tithe of thy grain, of thy new wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herd and of thy flock; that thou mayest learn to fear YHWH thy God always. 24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it, because the place is too far from thee, which YHWH thy God shall choose, to set his name there, when YHWH thy God shall bless thee; then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thy hand, and shalt go unto the place which YHWH thy God shall choose: and thou shalt bestow the money for whatsoever thy soul desireth, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul asketh of thee; and thou shalt eat there before YHWH thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou and thy household.

But the truth is that we are not under the Law of Moses, we have no Levites to which we would give the tithe, and tithing is prescribed only as part of the Law of Moses. We find Abraham giving a tithe only once in his life, and not in response to a commandment from God.

Tithing is never commanded to the Church. For spiritual health, a Christian must stay away from trying to keep the Law of Moses.
"The sting of death is sin; and the power of sin is the law: but thanks be to God, who giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Rom 7: When the commandment came, sin revived and I died. … I am carnal sold under sin.

 

[Atwood]

2 Corinthians, so far as I know, has the most concentrated teaching on giving in the Bible, written to the Church. Paul was raising money for the poor at Jerusalem. But in all that discussion of giving, tithing is never mentioned.

Here is the best guidance I know of to the Church for giving:

For according to their power, I bear witness, yea and beyond their power, they gave of their own accord, beseeching us with much entreaty in regard of this grace and the fellowship in the ministering to the saints: and this, not as we had hoped, but first they gave their own selves to the Lord, and to us through the will of God. Insomuch that we exhorted Titus, that as he had made a beginning before, so he would also complete in you this grace also. But as ye abound in everything, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all earnestness, and in your love to us, see that ye abound in this grace also. < 2 Cor 8


But this I say, He that soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he that soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Let each man do according as he hath purposed in his heart: not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound unto you; that ye, having always all sufficiency in everything, may abound unto every good work: as it is written,
He hath scattered abroad, he hath given to the poor;
His righteousness abideth for ever.
< 2 Cor 9



Compare Philemon:
that thy goodness should not be as of necessity, but of free will.

 

[Atwood]

for all of His people to obey. I see no exceptions to the 10% commitment, so i dont believe there are exceptions.

Greetings, Orchid.

At this point I urge you to set aside the human traditions you were taught and give heed to the Word of God. I challenge you to show us even one verse in all the Bible that commands a tithe to the Church, which began in Acts 2 on Pentecost, and was yet future in Mat 16: "I WILL build my Church." The ministry of Christ was under the Law of Moses, to which He enjoined every jot and tittle, but the Law of Moses was nailed to the cross and ended.

For Christian health, it is mandatory to stay away from trying to keep the Law of Moses:
The sting of death is sin; and the power of sin is the law: but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Rom 7 tells us that I was alive apart from the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. The state of carnality followed: "I am carnal, sold under sin." So to be a slave of sin, try to follow the Law of Moses.

Orchids, consider the claim that "when God gives a command, He provides a way for all of His people to obey."

So then, because Adam was commanded to be a gardener all Christians should be gardeners. And because Noah was commanded to build an ark, all Christians should build arks. Because Israel was commanded to sacrifice animals, all Christians should sacrifice animals.

You must recognize that some commands are dispensational, just to certain people and groups for certain temporary time periods. You have to recognize that you are not keeping the Law of Moses, nor should you. In the most extensive teaching on giving given to the Church, 2 Corinthians, tithing is not mentioned as a principle of giving at all. We are told not to give as of necessity. Neither does 10 percent cover the OT tithe to Levites -- the law says that tithes go to Levites, so if you feel like tithing, get out your phone book and look up Jews whose sir name is Levy. They may be happy to accommodate you.

We are not under law, but under grace. We are not part of Israel, but part of the Church, if we trust Christ as Savior.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

NT command:

Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. -2 Cor 9:7

If 10%(which is what a tithe is) is commanded, then Paul would have surely here noted it in 2 Cor 9.

If anyone is going to apply OT rules for giving, then there are multiple tithes mentioned, not one: Levitical tithe, Poor tithe, and Festival tithe. Any good Bible dictionary will reveal this.

If people insist on giving 10%(a tithe), then, they are obligated to 3 tithes, not one.

So to those who give 10%(a tithe): which 10%(tithe) are you giving, and why not the other tithes?