The Value of Anyone

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43“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?


I think this is one of the biggest things people struggle with, myself included.
I've become markedly less...emotionally reactive over the past couple of years, but I catch myself needing to keep my thoughts in check when it comes to those who truly test my patience.
 
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Concerning the subject of this thread. Below is a copy and paste of my Facebook post two days ago. It could help



"Today I attended my second lecture on Natural Resources Economics I and as the lecturer explained something, I got a revelation which I doubt will get me marks in the final examination but definitely great value in life.
He explained that some resources are discovered through human ingenuity. The value of something or for it to become a resource can be determined by man's capacity to extract and process it. I got thinking, the same applies to the different people we meet in life as well as the relationships we have with them. Oil was just a useless thick liquid until man developed the technology to extract and process it. The whole procedure is expensive. It undergoes fractional distillation to produce petrol, diesel, natural gas, tar, sulphur, jet fuel and kerosene.
There are people who are like that in life. They are useless to us until we develop the relevant "technology" to extract and process what they carry within themselves. The very same stone somebody rests upon whilst basking in the sun can be the one someone sculptures into an elephant before selling it. The same woman/man you ditched may one day be a great mother/father and wife/husband to someone. The same plastic waste which we throw away is making someone thousands of dollars. An invention turned away by one company made someone wealthy and famous. A Time to Kill by John Grisham was initially rejected by 12 publishers and 16 agents before landing a deal somewhere. John Grisham is grandmaster novelist. Today I learnt about natural resources and I learnt to appreciate others. You are a supernatural resource waiting to be extracted and processed, you need mentors in life.
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One of the reasons why we do not see the good or greatness in others is that we may be lacking the necessary fine qualities to extract and process what they carry. You carry greatness in you, do not be disappointed when others do not see it..."
 
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Concerning the subject of this thread. Below is a copy and paste of my Facebook post two days ago. It could help



"Today I attended my second lecture on Natural Resources Economics I and as the lecturer explained something, I got a revelation which I doubt will get me marks in the final examination but definitely great value in life.
He explained that some resources are discovered through human ingenuity. The value of something or for it to become a resource can be determined by man's capacity to extract and process it. I got thinking, the same applies to the different people we meet in life as well as the relationships we have with them. Oil was just a useless thick liquid until man developed the technology to extract and process it. The whole procedure is expensive. It undergoes fractional distillation to produce petrol, diesel, natural gas, tar, sulphur, jet fuel and kerosene.
There are people who are like that in life. They are useless to us until we develop the relevant "technology" to extract and process what they carry within themselves. The very same stone somebody rests upon whilst basking in the sun can be the one someone sculptures into an elephant before selling it. The same woman/man you ditched may one day be a great mother/father and wife/husband to someone. The same plastic waste which we throw away is making someone thousands of dollars. An invention turned away by one company made someone wealthy and famous. A Time to Kill by John Grisham was initially rejected by 12 publishers and 16 agents before landing a deal somewhere. John Grisham is grandmaster novelist. Today I learnt about natural resources and I learnt to appreciate others. You are a supernatural resource waiting to be extracted and processed, you need mentors in life.
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One of the reasons why we do not see the good or greatness in others is that we may be lacking the necessary fine qualities to extract and process what they carry. You carry greatness in you, do not be disappointed when others do not see it..."
In other words, we need to see people with the eyes of Jesus, and help them develop as He did?
 
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I'm the same way. I have no trouble posting online, but in person I hardly speak.
I'm actually the opposite. My statements online are short, but I will talk for hours, in person.
 
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Yes sir Willie-T. Just as we have been helped by others, we could do the same as well.
 
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This is probably a little too literal as far as value...

But sometimes people don't claim the bodies of their deceased loved ones, because it is so expensive.

I know a guy where he and his brother both refused to claim their dad when he passed, because they'd both been hurt by him, and said he didn't want to have to pay. The city or state just did a cremation.

Just a thought that popped up in my mind
 
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This is probably a little too literal as far as value...

But sometimes people don't claim the bodies of their deceased loved ones, because it is so expensive.

I know a guy where he and his brother both refused to claim their dad when he passed, because they'd both been hurt by him, and said he didn't want to have to pay. The city or state just did a cremation.

Just a thought that popped up in my mind
I find this interesting...I wonder if it would have been different if it had been a matter of Saving their dad's life? I mean, if they would have tried to come up with the money for that. Would the mere fact that he was still Alive have changed the value they placed on him? Since he was already gone from his body, and they were angry with him, they obviously didn't feel it was that important to personally lay him to rest (no judgment from me, I can identify to an extent).

It's sort of morbidly fascinating that whatever it would have cost to claim the body of their father was Too High a price...so they kind of stripped him of any value after his death. His life was worth so little to them that his death wasn't worth commemorating.

This is all just my own speculation, obviously. But it definitely is an interesting angle to this topic.
 
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i don't have any answers, but you've given me more to ponder
 
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i don't have any answers, but you've given me more to ponder

No worries, I don't expect answers :)
I'm just happy to hear people's thoughts and you've given me a different perspective to think about, so...win!
 

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More thoughts on this...

Not long after starting this thread, my views about everyone being worth something were tested. How do you look at someone who clearly enjoys being antagonistic and arrogant and see their value as a human being?

Sometimes it's very, very difficult to walk away from an argument and not tell myself that the person lashing out at everyone is just kind of worthless. That's the easy way out of having to face whatever it is In Me that makes me feel that way. I've always thought (well, for a long time, anyway) that the way someone treats, speaks to/about, or even thinks about other people says a lot more about Them personally than it does about the other people.

What does it say about Me when I walk away from an extremely difficult person thinking, What a worthless person?
Is there ever a time when that's true?


I dunno, just thinking out loud, sort of.
Righteous indignation, my Lady. You've got it, and I applaud it. When I joined this site I never thought there would exist such hostility, but here it is, and I'm often in the middle of it. I should change my username to PhariseeSlayer.

I have seething contempt for arrogant people who dare try and shut out the Kingdom of Heaven against others. That said, though my feelings towards such people are negative, there's no denying they have value, and we as Children of Light are to pray for everyone because everyone is valued by God.

MissCris, sometimes you walk away and have thoughts as you do, no biggie. Its a way of shaking the dust of your feet; we've all been there. Just always keep such folks lifted in prayer. Believe me, there are times I'd like to reach into the computer screen and grab some folks, but at the end of the day, its prayers for all. And God knows I need prayer, so I'm asking for yours and everyone else's.
 

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I'm actually the opposite. My statements online are short, but I will talk for hours, in person.
When I move to Florida I'm taking you up on that! :)
 
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I was in a Behavior Hospital lockup for 9 days and as a psycho outpatient for weeks, during that time I began to see people no matter what their status in life as having value, I have learned a valuable lesson.
 
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I was in a Behavior Hospital lockup for 9 days and as a psycho outpatient for weeks, during that time I began to see people no matter what their status in life as having value, I have learned a valuable lesson.
I worked in that field for some time. Yes, it DOES make a difference. I learned to see value in people much of society calls "throw-aways". AND I discovered I am only an electrical impulse or chemical foul-up away from being in a bed right beside them.
 
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Not to derail the thread, but the first three days are the worse.

I have a Chemical Imbalance, I am OK on Lexapro and Wellbutrin. :)
 

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I worked in that field for some time. Yes, it DOES make a difference. I learned to see value in people much of society calls "throw-aways". AND I discovered I am only an electrical impulse or chemical foul-up away from being in a bed right beside them.
Willie, you recently posted that being Christian isn't necessarily easy. We are called to be in the trenches and that means sometimes we have to hug a drunk who's puked all over himself. Man, that was powerful. Your words also hold true regarding everyone's value. Thank you for sharing as you do.