Tiny house

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Lanolin

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CharliRenee said:
Two thumbs up for a wider tiny house. Still tiny but moe square than narrow. Tiny, with lots of windows. I want modern technology though. I love the idea of living off the grid, but honestly, too spoiled. I love me some internet and tv, lol. They, tiny houses, can be costly though as mentioned earlier, not the living in them, but the purchase...eeks!!!!
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The grid
It reminds me of those maths books with squares of them for square people.

Unfortunately, you are not technically allowed to live off the grid. I think its a fantasy for rich white people to be honest that they can live in a reservation like one of those fake survivor shows.

They could do it a few weeks by being filmed doing so but would never be able to handle being REALLY poor.

I remember a overhearing a conversation of white missionaries saying about their mission trips to the islands 'oh they are so BACKWARD' and 'its an eye opener' 'it makes me grateful for my own comfortable lifestyle'.

They then return back to their ease and comfort with THEIR lives changed, but everyone elses are not, as people still dont have running water or labor saving devices in which they dont have to break their backs for.
 
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I love looking at tiny homes and seeing how someone chooses to organize and fit all the essentials in. I love the simplicity.

In thinking about how my life fits with a tiny home, they wouldn’t match up, so I’ll just have to admire them from afar.
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This is why Marie Kondo

In Japan, tiny houses are just ordinary. Because how to fit millions of people on a tiny island? Most live in tiny little apartments anyway, kinda like ants.
But then cities are like colonies. The British called their migration 'colonisation' like swarms of bees.
Then the brits called asian migration 'the asian invasion' probably cos it rhymed, but they sure did not notice the irony.
 
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Stuart Little's house was not really tiny but it was small compared to all the skyscrapers

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I once tried to build some houses because I was reading the 3 little pigs story to children but...none of the teachers had any legos.

I dont know what the teachers are actually teaching children these days but you'd think they would at least have some lego bricks, someday the children will grow up and they've got to know how to build a house?! Or at least the basics of one.

I mean all I had were cardboard boxes and I know they are not going to last.
 
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Lanolin said:
what does everyone here think of tiny houses
an option for you?
too tiny?
only good for dolls?
not worth it or totally worth it?
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I think the idea has merit, particularly if it's sited in a Tiny Home Village where the cost of infrastructure can be shared, and ideally in a Christian village at that!

The cost of housing in Australia at the mo is so high it borders on the obscene, and rentals are scarce, so it may be a good way to get people into a set home of their own.

If it ends up being too small, you can always add an adjacent outdoor living space such as a landing, or butt up another module to it via a breezeway or the like.

Does anyone know of a Christian Tiny Home Village in their country? How has it gone? What do people think about the concept, what would be the short comings and pitfalls from your perspective?
 
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I only know of retirement villages, and the houses are at most 2 bedrooms, but they are not tiny houses, just smaller homes, sort of like cottages. They have proper rooms and all the facilities.

Some of them are Christian, there is a Dutch retirement village near me where a lot of church goers live. We joke that most of the oldies of the church live there. They should just have church in the village.

They have an onsite gardener so those who cant bend down anymore dont need to worry about the garden/landscaping/lawns.

I recall one retirement village resident wanted a minature windmill and garden gnomes, but the other residents objected to this ...yes you get all these petty squabbles when you live in those places.
 
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Children seem also not allowed in retirement villages.
But that seems silly
what it should be is children live in the tiny houses, from age 5 to 13 and their parents and garandparents live in the big ones. Why not.
 
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Lanolin said:
er...
what has 'Orpheous of Underworld' go to do with anything?

I was thinking of 'The Borrowers' or maybe 'Stuart Little'.
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It's not the title of the book but the format. Digitized books free up a lot of space.

I have a Kindle Paperwhite. It has hundreds of books on it.

It's got some really neat features too, such as a built in
dictionary and wifi to wiki so you can research to your
heart's content while you are reading something.
 
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Magenta said:
It's not the title of the book but the format. Digitized books free up a lot of space.

I have a Kindle Paperwhite. It has hundreds of books on it.
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I just read books and return them to the library. Ive read thousands of books, I dont need to keep them all lol...and someone else can read them when Ive finished. Thats what libraries are for...!
I dont even buy digital books, I just borrow them and return them when finished too.
 
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Lanolin said:
I just read books and return them to the library. Ive read thousands of books, I dont need to keep them all lol...and someone else can read them when Ive finished. Thats what libraries are for...!
I dont even buy digital books, I just borrow them and return them when finished too.
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The question was: where would the library go (in a tiny house)?

That was the suggestion/answer.

If you don't have a library then there is no problem.
 
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the answer was...the tiny house can go inside the library.
 
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Ive fit two tents and a teepee inside my library , so should be no problem putting in a tiny house.

I was told off for putting in a tent though, the children loved it, but the principal was not so keen. lol
 
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Lanolin said:
the answer was...the tiny house can go inside the library.
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I didn't see that answer. I thought we were talking about
digital books as a space-saving solution for a tiny house.
 
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Lanolin said:
I only know of retirement villages, and the houses are at most 2 bedrooms, but they are not tiny houses, just smaller homes, sort of like cottages. They have proper rooms and all the facilities.

Some of them are Christian, there is a Dutch retirement village near me where a lot of church goers live. We joke that most of the oldies of the church live there. They should just have church in the village.

They have an onsite gardener so those who cant bend down anymore dont need to worry about the garden/landscaping/lawns.

I recall one retirement village resident wanted a minature windmill and garden gnomes, but the other residents objected to this ...yes you get all these petty squabbles when you live in those places.
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Thanks for the reply.

I'm thinking of a layout that would give tenants their own leased, private, fenced in space. Within that they could put whatever they like, except for anything that the Village counsel of elders deemed unacceptable for a Christian environment. The same group of elders would adjudicate in disputes.

The Park could have dedicated areas for a Workshop, Arts and Craft, Library, Rest and Recreation, Canteen, Community Gardens, Community Animals and Pets, First Aid Centre with emergency medical equipment and attended by a Nurse Practitioner, etc.

All age groups and families can be residents, cats only allowed as personal pets and which have to be brought inside at night,

Just a few thoughts I have!
 
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ChristianTonyB said:
Thanks for the reply.

I'm thinking of a layout that would give tenants their own leased, private, fenced in space. Within that they could put whatever they like, except for anything that the Village counsel of elders deemed unacceptable for a Christian environment. The same group of elders would adjudicate in disputes.

The Park could have dedicated areas for a Workshop, Arts and Craft, Library, Rest and Recreation, Canteen, Community Gardens, Community Animals and Pets, First Aid Centre with emergency medical equipment and attended by a Nurse Practitioner, etc.

All age groups and families can be residents, cats only allowed as personal pets and which have to be brought inside at night,

Just a few thoughts I have!
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most of the villages Ive seen are not fenced individually the fence is around the outside of the entire village. If some residents have a dog, they may keep them indoors or on a leash or have a little private yard space for the dog, but, I have not seen that often, because if everyone had their own fenced space with a dog they may as well just live in the suburbs.

You just have to have the type of dog who is friendly with all residents but has their own kennel and knows not to go inside other ppls homes or attack other residents.
 
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a lot of those 'village' type residences can actually be tyrannised by a select group of elders if they deem certain people unacceptable

This is what happens, unfortunately.
If a village is run on consensus, where all residents participate, it can work better, but body corporates can also be a drag. Depends on how big the village is.

Theres a certain size before it gets too unwieldy.
 
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one of the villages I worked in was owned by a billionaire and he got hotel people in to manage them, but some of the hotel managers were caught embezzling residents money.

I dont think they work for all residents because there is the potential there for ripping people off. It happens, Ive seen it, its not pretty. people invest the entire rest of their lives to live in these places and it just enriches the one person who owns the lot. I know initial the quality of their lives may be better, (everyone likes moving into a brand new space) but when they find out at the end that they cannot sustain it, they are then trapped.
 
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Lanolin said:
most of the villages Ive seen are not fenced individually the fence is around the outside of the entire village. If some residents have a dog, they may keep them indoors or on a leash or have a little private yard space for the dog, but, I have not seen that often, because if everyone had their own fenced space with a dog they may as well just live in the suburbs.

You just have to have the type of dog who is friendly with all residents but has their own kennel and knows not to go inside other ppls homes or attack other residents.
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No dogs, except those that belong to the Park, otherwise it would be a nightmare to oversee. Cats, providing they are kept inside at night, are a lesser problem. Fencing off individual residences is important, residents need to know they have their own space for a sense of security, and for self expression through potted plants, but no religious figurines open to view would be allowed. They would have space for a car and small trailer inside their Tiny Home area. Caravans and boats would have to be stored in a separate dedicated communal parking space.
 
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Lanolin said:
a lot of those 'village' type residences can actually be tyrannised by a select group of elders if they deem certain people unacceptable
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The Park owners will have to guard against that.

Lanolin said:
Theres a certain size before it gets too unwieldy.
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There's a Park in Oz at a small town in Vic called Eldorado that has restricted their number to a 100 people, give or take.
 
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Lanolin said:
one of the villages I worked in was owned by a billionaire and he got hotel people in to manage them, but some of the hotel managers were caught embezzling residents money.

I dont think they work for all residents because there is the potential there for ripping people off. It happens, Ive seen it, its not pretty. people invest the entire rest of their lives to live in these places and it just enriches the one person who owns the lot. I know initial the quality of their lives may be better, (everyone likes moving into a brand new space) but when they find out at the end that they cannot sustain it, they are then trapped.
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Good warnings, thank you.

Residences will own their Tiny House, and it will be on wheels so that it can be moved out if they want to move on to somewhere else. They'll only be able to lease the land area where their Tiny House sits, and will be paying a weekly maintenance fee for the upkeep of communal areas.
 
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