Maybe it wasnt the best way for ugly to go about but what i objected to was it ending up like the school playground, like everyone ganging up and making this place look bad.. Thats all im trying to say, if people have a personal problem not related to the thread take it private, Im sorry if you think i was wrong in saying something but theres people who arnt christians looking in on this and making their own judgments. and again i say the same elizabeth christians should stand up for themselves but theres a time and place and a battle , and for a new person coming to cc that kind of welcome on a thread insnt good to see..thats all