X & Y- Tools for Marriage

[GaryA]

Witchcraft and lies, deception, manipulation, are not the same thing. Witchcraft is definitely its own thing. My father dabbled a little in witchcraft in his teens. I used to have a witch coworker. Entirely different from lies, deception, manipulation and all that stuff.

Witchcraft is chock full of lies, deception, and manipulation.

Have you allowed yourself to be manipulated through deception into believing lies...???

 

[Lynx]

Witchcraft is chock full of lies, deception, and manipulation.

Have you allowed yourself to be manipulated through deception into believing lies...???

Witchcraft can incorporate lies (although curiously the two witches I knew were both very honest people.) But the post I was replying to conflated deception to be considered AS witchcraft. Those are two very separate things.

 

[GaryA]

It's also a mindset and not just a spirit, so the mindset (self-absorbed and willing to use 'witchcraft' (ie. manipulation, lies, deception, etc.) and any means necessary to get its own way) reaches way farther than the spirit itself.

Witchcraft and lies, deception, manipulation, are not the same thing.

Witchcraft is chock full of lies, deception, and manipulation.

Witchcraft can incorporate lies (although curiously the two witches I knew were both very honest people.) But the post I was replying to conflated deception to be considered AS witchcraft. Those are two very separate things.

I read it differently. To me, he is describing witchcraft in terms of the parenthetical list of words - not the other way around.

He is not saying that - by definition:

~ 'lies' = witchcraft
~ 'deception' = witchcraft
~ 'manipulation' = witchcraft

- rather, he is referring to those things as being part of witchcraft, that come out of witchcraft, that result from witchcraft, etc.

And, the fact that he put the word 'witchcraft' in single quotes means he was intending a specific targeted use of the word - which he defined and described with the parenthetical list of words.

I believe he was using the word 'witchcraft' to encapsulate those things in the parenthetical list - to epitomize witchcraft-related characteristics.

I do not believe he was saying that each of those things in the parenthetical list was equated by definition to witchcraft.

I do not see how he could be conflating deception AS witchcraft as you say.

No - I do not think he was defining anything AS witchcraft; rather, I think he was defining the 'mindset' with 'witchcraft' characteristics.

@ValleyAnt - would you mind explaining further exactly-and-precisely what you meant...?

 

[Karlon]

Someone recently brought up the topic of marriages that die, are sexless, or that are unfulfilling especially after grown children leave the nest. This post is meant to start a discussion about 'tools' that make choosing a mate and marriage healthy and rewarding.

when the bore sets in, be ready for it before it occurs! always have new adventures to live in, whether it's a new restaurant, new vacation place, sports activities, books, church events, beaches, concerts, parks, social events, etc. for married couples, the romance room has no limit. newness is huge in a marriage & surprises are super big I'm marriage! but i'm saying that perhaps the biggest issue is to always be willing to please your spouse 1st. i realize if money is lacking it's much tougher but there's still always an answer.