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My logic:
Sure you can. But you should not let it take control of your life. And also bear in mind that there are people in the porn business that are there because of drugs and abuse. So It is somewhat to watch a boxing match. You can still feel bad about those participating.
Of course not. You are hurting and abusing another living individual. It is against that persons will and if it is a child it is to young to make any decisions in the matter. It is not consensual.
I like extreme examples myself but I think it is a bit strange when people compares porn, homosexuality and sex before marriage with childrape, murder and genocide.
The only reason that you worship false Gods is i you have not met Jesus. After you have felt his warmth you will not have that "love to worship them" because they will not give you anything.
I would say the same to you... And to take an extreme example. You are after all pro slavery... and that I would say is a vile think that is not at least moral.
With that I agree!
Sent from my hearth with best intentions.
Love
Anna
Sure you can. But you should not let it take control of your life. And also bear in mind that there are people in the porn business that are there because of drugs and abuse. So It is somewhat to watch a boxing match. You can still feel bad about those participating.
Of course not. You are hurting and abusing another living individual. It is against that persons will and if it is a child it is to young to make any decisions in the matter. It is not consensual.
I like extreme examples myself but I think it is a bit strange when people compares porn, homosexuality and sex before marriage with childrape, murder and genocide.
The only reason that you worship false Gods is i you have not met Jesus. After you have felt his warmth you will not have that "love to worship them" because they will not give you anything.
I would say the same to you... And to take an extreme example. You are after all pro slavery... and that I would say is a vile think that is not at least moral.
With that I agree!
Sent from my hearth with best intentions.
Love
Anna
Well... of course I do think my logic is valid 
I would not argue for it if it was not.
Well according to creation God created Adam and Eve. And then they gave offspring to the human race. Scientists have actually found traces in our DNA and the X and Y chromosomes that seems to indicate that we humans have two common ancestors 175.000 years ago (And that was of course not gay... unless they adopted
Rhyme is nice. And funny to read... as long as you don't rap it
Well... homosexuality is everywhere in nature... And God created them as well... so it must be completely normal that some percentage of the population fancies its own gender. It is Gay to be Gay after all.
LOL
I thought it was what the internet was for.
Love
Anna
I would not argue for it if it was not. Well according to creation God created Adam and Eve. And then they gave offspring to the human race. Scientists have actually found traces in our DNA and the X and Y chromosomes that seems to indicate that we humans have two common ancestors 175.000 years ago (And that was of course not gay... unless they adopted
(Sorry for the rhyming ) God created a system of reproduction and family that works.
) God created a system of reproduction and family that works.
Well... homosexuality is everywhere in nature... And God created them as well... so it must be completely normal that some percentage of the population fancies its own gender. It is Gay to be Gay after all.
LOL
I thought it was what the internet was for.
Love
Anna
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The discussion that has ensued my post is mind blowing. I am choosing to stay out of most of it, for several reasons. One, is that most of the discussion revolves around various interpretations of the Bible, and seeing how my interpretations would just anger most of you, I won't share. Also, I would like to organically allow the discussions to progress. Some of you are coming upon some very interesting thoughts, and they should continue. And although some of you seem bigoted and a bit arrogant, I'm sure you have legitimate reasons in your own eyes to be so. I thank you all for showing me so much about how some of you think, and despite none of it changing my mind about religion, I do see parts of your religion differently than before. It has been a valuable experience that will continue on I hope, as I plan to stay on this site a while longer and deepen my observations. Thanks again for being thoughtful and peaceful!
W
Whether or not Hitler was a Christian is open to question. I've read quite a bit on his life and I think he was. Toland, Shirer, and Goldhagen document not only his public references to his faith, but also his private references ... which obviously weren't for public political consumption, being private.
What's more important to examine is the fact that the overwhelming majoity of the Germans of the era were Christian, and yet their faith inspired so very few to resist his regime. Furthermore, millions of Hitler's followers certainly felt comfortable in actively supporting his regime despite their Christian faith.
Please note, I'm not trying to say that Christians are NaZis or any garbage like that. What I'm pointing out is that this regime was not shunned by millions of ostensibly good Christians. If the Christian faith is curative and redemptive, how did so many Christians come blinded to obvious evil? Only a very few, such as Pastor Niemoller or the members of the Kreisau Circle, retained their moral compass in the face of the regime. Why is that? This was a nation of 65 million Christians which perpetrated the Holocaust. That fact demands an explanation.
What's more important to examine is the fact that the overwhelming majoity of the Germans of the era were Christian, and yet their faith inspired so very few to resist his regime. Furthermore, millions of Hitler's followers certainly felt comfortable in actively supporting his regime despite their Christian faith.
Please note, I'm not trying to say that Christians are NaZis or any garbage like that. What I'm pointing out is that this regime was not shunned by millions of ostensibly good Christians. If the Christian faith is curative and redemptive, how did so many Christians come blinded to obvious evil? Only a very few, such as Pastor Niemoller or the members of the Kreisau Circle, retained their moral compass in the face of the regime. Why is that? This was a nation of 65 million Christians which perpetrated the Holocaust. That fact demands an explanation.
S
That is somewhat true. However, Christianity does state that god gave humans free will, allowing them to make their own decisions. This often confuses me though, considering how god also claims to have control over everything and everyone at the same time as humans having free will. *sigh* Perhaps someone can explain that. I never have found an explanation for it in the Bible.
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[Hypothesis]Is free will real, if it is free, only in the sense that it is 'permitted'?
Free will is either the ability to make decisions based on your will
or, your ability to decide your will without external influence... which is impossible, regards of God existance or not.
The manipulation of 'external influences' is used by people in many industries, politics and social situations (deliberately and unconsciously). It is designed to change the root of a persons free-will from their own experiences to the enactors will.
Experience -> Person A -> Decision (Free will -> but still contingent on experience)
Person B supports their own will by influencing the experience of Person A -> Decision (Will thus becomes partially contingent on Person B's influence)
God however, can (if he wishes), change a persons will without steering their life experiences, and that's what he avoids. Experiences do not directly force people to change their will.
Some non-empiricists will also believe will has non-material manifestations too, that don't require experience. Near all can not deny experience plays a role though.
[/A hypothesis that seems logically consistent to me]
Free will is either the ability to make decisions based on your will
or, your ability to decide your will without external influence... which is impossible, regards of God existance or not.
The manipulation of 'external influences' is used by people in many industries, politics and social situations (deliberately and unconsciously). It is designed to change the root of a persons free-will from their own experiences to the enactors will.
Experience -> Person A -> Decision (Free will -> but still contingent on experience)
Person B supports their own will by influencing the experience of Person A -> Decision (Will thus becomes partially contingent on Person B's influence)
God however, can (if he wishes), change a persons will without steering their life experiences, and that's what he avoids. Experiences do not directly force people to change their will.
Some non-empiricists will also believe will has non-material manifestations too, that don't require experience. Near all can not deny experience plays a role though.
[/A hypothesis that seems logically consistent to me]
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