Fear over predestination

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The verses over predestination, have left me very nervous the more I have thought of them.
Out of everyone God could chooses why did he choose me? It certainly isn’t based on how I am, I am sinner and don’t deserve his love.
And yet he chose me to give me the desire to spend my life with him instead of have my heart completely hardened. It could have been eternal punishment but instead it’s heaven.
And it just makes me completely terrified if God hadn’t. Am I just lucky? Luck doesn’t have anything to do with it, but I just can’t comprehend why I could be chosen!
I’m glad God saved me, but I worry so much about eternal punishment for others. Were the ones not saved created to go to Hell because God chose to keep their heart hardened?
I would rather never exist and be completely annihilated than be chosen to have a completely hardened heart and go to Hell!
I love God, but predestination made me feel so nervous!
He loves me but not those who weren’t chosen? Am I loved due to luck?
I don’t understand this well, and I’m sorry if i haven’t been humble.
What position is a pot to judge the potter?
What position is the creation to judge the creator?
These thoughts just feel stuck in my head and leave me so nervous to approach God....
 

bojack

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The verses over predestination, have left me very nervous the more I have thought of them.
Out of everyone God could chooses why did he choose me? It certainly isn’t based on how I am, I am sinner and don’t deserve his love.
And yet he chose me to give me the desire to spend my life with him instead of have my heart completely hardened. It could have been eternal punishment but instead it’s heaven.
And it just makes me completely terrified if God hadn’t. Am I just lucky? Luck doesn’t have anything to do with it, but I just can’t comprehend why I could be chosen!
I’m glad God saved me, but I worry so much about eternal punishment for others. Were the ones not saved created to go to Hell because God chose to keep their heart hardened?
I would rather never exist and be completely annihilated than be chosen to have a completely hardened heart and go to Hell!
I love God, but predestination made me feel so nervous!
He loves me but not those who weren’t chosen? Am I loved due to luck?
I don’t understand this well, and I’m sorry if i haven’t been humble.
What position is a pot to judge the potter?
What position is the creation to judge the creator?
These thoughts just feel stuck in my head and leave me so nervous to approach God....
Hi Mike, I would too but I don't interpret that the same as many do .. In my opinion predestination means God had predestined a criteria he had in mind for who He would save (he knew us in that sense) and according to our/their free will, a simple criteria.. I don't think it means any particular individual was chosen personally over another come hell or high water at all.. 17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
God is no respecter of persons .. God says 6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: .. Even though Pharaoh was raised for that purpose he relented a couple times to let the Hebrews go, then hardened his heart and changed his mind , then finally as God had said, he hardened Pharaohs heart for him and ''good by'' Pharaoh.. Even Pharaoh had a chance after persecuting and working the Hebrews into the ground .. Pharaoh like many others, riches were too much to give up and he chose riches and hell instead of God .. Riches come in many forms, not just money ... Samuel's mother was barren and I'm sure prayed to God for a child fervently, often and dedicated Samuel to the Lord before he was conceived .. IMO It was settled in heaven by a mothers earnest prayer before Samuel became the great Jewish prophet, priest and judge , I'm not even sure he was a Levite .. Jesus doesn't will that any perish but that all come to Him .. Hell was created for the devil and his angels, not for men .. The sad part to me is when a man assumes with pride he's given a 1rst round bye into heaven like a ball team in a tournament , If I'm right of course .. In the garden Adam sinned and we became like gods in that we know good from evil , we have been born and inherited a sin nature now needing spiritual circumcision through Jesus .. We make our own choice and must meet a criteria God has set before we ever appeared or were created .. To say Adam wasn't predestined is dumb yet he died too because he chose and he failed to meet God's strict criteria .. It is Jesus ''God Himself'' come in the flesh, His righteousness not ours and each man's free will choice to believe and follow Him in which case all were predestined in Jesus .. God remains Holy, True and Blameless what ever our choice ..
This is my opinion
 

Adstar

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The verses over predestination, have left me very nervous the more I have thought of them.
Out of everyone God could chooses why did he choose me? It certainly isn’t based on how I am, I am sinner and don’t deserve his love.
And that's the very reason why God is saving you.. Because you have a contrite spirit..

Isaiah 57: KJV
15 "For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones."

And yet he chose me to give me the desire to spend my life with him instead of have my heart completely hardened. It could have been eternal punishment but instead it’s heaven.
And it just makes me completely terrified if God hadn’t. Am I just lucky? Luck doesn’t have anything to do with it, but I just can’t comprehend why I could be chosen!
God desires that all would have a repentant heart and that all would come to salvation.. You have a repentant heart , soooo God moves you to accept the Way of salvation he has made.. You have got to get this human thinking of thinking that being worthy is the key to salvation.. That's works thinking.. Salvation is by grace so that no man will be able to boast.. All honor and praise is to God who loves and saves not to us who He Redeems..

I’m glad God saved me, but I worry so much about eternal punishment for others. Were the ones not saved created to go to Hell because God chose to keep their heart hardened?
No... That's calvinism..

God foreknew all history and He knew us at the moment of creation thousands of years before we where born and from that foreknowledge of our response to His will He has predestined us to be transformed into the likeness of the LORD Jesus Christ..

I would rather never exist and be completely annihilated than be chosen to have a completely hardened heart and go to Hell!
God hardens the hearts of those who have rejected his loving gift of Atonement.. They either mock it as foolishness or declare it to be evil.. Woe to those who hate the love of God..

I love God, but predestination made me feel so nervous!
Keep loving God and trust in His ability to save and that will see you know the peace of mind that comes from trusting in the LORD and not trusting in yourself..


He loves me but not those who weren’t chosen? Am I loved due to luck?
No luck involved at all. God foreknew that you would acknowledge your unworthiness to be with God in eternity.. In acknowledging ones own unworthiness one is actually affirming that Gods will is perfect and good.. We are in agreement with God in spirit..

I don’t understand this well, and I’m sorry if i haven’t been humble.
You have been humble alright.. (y) Always remain that way towards god..

What position is a pot to judge the potter?
We should not judge God.. But we can ask as many questions with the spirit of seekin truth .. we can reason with God over many things..

Isaiah 1: KJV
18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."


These thoughts just feel stuck in my head and leave me so nervous to approach God....
Do not fear the One who Loves you.. Learn about His perfect Love and let it cast out all your fear..

1 John 4: KJV
18 "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. {19} We love him, because He first loved us."
 
Jan 18, 2019
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Thank you guys for replying and answering my questions! So i was so late, anxiousness keeps me away from doing anything... :(
But i do appreciate you guys put time out of your day to help me understand!