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Well, I agree those symbols are Anti Christian, yet people walk round believing it means peace etc.... This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Check out how the White house was built. They mock us in everyday life and most of us don't know it.

Research Illuminati and see for yourself. It stares us right in the face yet we don't see. Well until we wake up and start thinking for ourselves.

Only so much can be passed off as "conspiracy"
Remember Denver airport paintings... that is how comfortable they are now that they will take control. No one would expect such things in an American airport.

First of all, you need to look up what the Illuminati really is (was!) It was a group that rose up in support of science and reason when the Catholic church was busy brutally slaughtering anyone who didn't agree with them that science was magic...

Also, the US wasn't founded as a Christian nation. Who cares what symbols the city of DC used?
 
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First of all, you need to look up what the Illuminati really is (was!) It was a group that rose up in support of science and reason when the Catholic church was busy brutally slaughtering anyone who didn't agree with them that science was magic...

Also, the US wasn't founded as a Christian nation. Who cares what symbols the city of DC used?



Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Mat 5:22
But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.

Mat 5:28 ...
I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.








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I'm through here. The bible says not to argue with a fool.
 

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Just read or listen what Texe hat to say about "Inventor of Evil Thinks"

LaVey Was a Jew

The Church of Satan was founded in 1966 by a Jew, Anton Szandor LaVey. LaVey’s antics as a high priest of Satan earned him and his church the slavish devotion of singer Sammy Davis, Jr., buxom actress Jayne Mansfield, Beatle John Lennon, and rock star Marilyn Manson. Davis, a black man, even converted to Judaism.

Freemasonry is Jewish

There can be little doubt that Freemasonry is a satanic secret society begun by Jewish haters of Christ. In Morals and Dogma, his classic guide to the 33 rituals of the Scottish Rite Lodge, Albert Pike, Sovereign Grand Commander, admitted that the Jewish Kabbalah (or Cabala) is the "true philosophy" and "the basis" on which Masonry was founded. Eliphas Levi, satanist, black magician, and fellow Mason, confirmed this Jewish connection as did satanist Aleister Crowley (who bragged of being "the most wicked man on earth") and Manly P. Hall, a 33rd degree Mason who was honored by the Scottish Rite Journal as the "20th Century’s greatest Masonic scholar."

New Age Movement Inspired by Jews

The New Age Movement, which sprang on the scene in the last few decades, also is of Jewish origins. Take, for example, the New Age text, A Course in Miracles. Authored by a Jewish university professor, Helen Schucman, this demonic textbook has been publicly embraced by Oprah Winfrey and such New Age luminaries as Marianne Williamson.
Dr. Helen Schucman, a Jewish psychologist and professor from New York, authored the popular New Age "bible," A Course in Miracles. She claimed a spirit dictated the book to her. "It said it was Jesus," Schucman related. In her book, Schucman says that Jesus and Lucifer are "brothers."


Inventors of Evil Things


Inventors of Evil Things—How the Jews Created Freemasonry, Illuminism, Communism, Satanism, Witchcraft, and the New Age Movement—And What They are Up to Now: Download
Texe Marrs presents indisputable facts documenting the Jewish creation of the world’s most bloody movements and groups. From the Inquisition’s Torquemada, to the Illuminati’s Weishaupt, Communism’s Marx and Lenin, Satanism’s LaVey, and Witchcraft’s Starhawk, sinister and wicked Jews have been at the forefront in inventing evil things. Jesus said of the Jews, "You are of your Father the Devil," and He spoke absolute truth. The historical record is clear. Therefore, we must urgently ask: What exactly is this demonic racial cult plotting against humanity now, in this, the 21st century? Just what great evil are they stirring up from the cauldron of hell?

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ada, there is a specific part of the bible that talks about this: [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

they are not really jews, although they claim to be jews. Ex: in freemasonry, they call themselves juwes or jews, but they reject the capstone (Jesus), but they are not jews by blood or by spirit, although they profess it (through their religion).
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actually scratch that, just read that over and it seemed wrong this was an edit, but it failed because it took more than 5 minutes to edit that post (sad but true).
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]actually freemasonry was made up as a response to the templars which in was made as a response to something important that I forgot!

the jews have nothing to do with the conspiracy, labelling it a jewish conspiracy has been part of the disinformation for who knows how long, including the protocols of zion (non-jewish), since judiasm has been infilitrated heavily by the "pagan" jews or the khazars or the fake jews (samaritans), either way, zionism and all its practice are NOT JEWISH AND CONTRADICT THE TORAH AND OF COURSE THE BIBLE!

either way its just satanism changing masks and finding new guises!

also: illuminati refers to the elite groups/secret society collective comprised of illuminated free-masonry of 33rd degrees+, witches, academics/professionals/teachers/scientists, satanists, terrorist groups, intelligence agencies/thinktanks, mafia families, politicians/officials, FAKE JEWS, God knows what else (in my opinion, it is the 1st beast).
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ada, there is a specific part of the bible that talks about this: [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

they are not really jews, although they claim to be jews. Ex: in freemasonry, they call themselves juwes or jews, but they reject the capstone (Jesus), but they are not jews by blood or by spirit, although they profess it (through their religion).
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Of cause they are jews but no israelites,semites but edomites.
As it fits to Christmas. Remember what herod did as he killed all baby boys cause of the fear of the true messiah called Jesus Christ on his way to earth!
 
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actually scratch that, just read that over and it seemed wrong this was an edit, but it failed because it took more than 5 minutes to edit that post (sad but true).
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]actually freemasonry was made up as a response to the templars which in was made as a response to something important that I forgot!

the jews have nothing to do with the conspiracy, labelling it a jewish conspiracy has been part of the disinformation for who knows how long, including the protocols of zion (non-jewish), since judiasm has been infilitrated heavily by the "pagan" jews or the khazars or the fake jews (samaritans), either way, zionism and all its practice are NOT JEWISH AND CONTRADICT THE TORAH AND OF COURSE THE BIBLE!

either way its just satanism changing masks and finding new guises!

also: illuminati refers to the elite groups/secret society collective comprised of illuminated free-masonry of 33rd degrees+, witches, academics/professionals/teachers/scientists, satanists, terrorist groups, intelligence agencies/thinktanks, mafia families, politicians/officials, FAKE JEWS, God knows what else (in my opinion, it is the 1st beast).
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The Illuminati is a group of scientific minds that sometimes violently opposed the Catholic church's oppression of anyone that defied the laws of the church. It had nothing to do with the mafia, Freemasonry, Islam, Satanists, pagans or anything you just said, besides scientists. And it has no reason to exist anymore b/c the church doesn't control law anymore, freeing scientists from the violent control of the Catholic church. The "illuminati" symbols you see in Lady Gaga and Jay-Z music videos are all for show and to get a rise out of people who buy into it...
 
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I recently stumbled upon an illuminati site that describes the foundation and the history of it and it isn't like what anybody here is describing, if I can remember where the site was I'll post the link.
 
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symbolism holds power still.. >>
 

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There are 3 big reasons the religion is called Satanism.

1. It really is practically the exact opposite doctrine of christianity

2. It's a powerful word that scares many people away. We are not interested in building numbers. We are misanthropes. The word "Satan" serves as a way to weed out some of the people that wouldnt get it and that would just cause us problems.

3. Most importantly, it's symbolic for a liberating figure. We do not believe in a literal being known as Satan. We think of the story as folklore but realize the important qualities of it. We see God as the evil one. Satan represents the power that stood up to the evil fascist leader. Call it whatever you want. You could call it Bonnie and Clyde if you wanted to. It's poetic. It's romantic. It's symbolic for the guy that stood up for what he believed in, even though it was unpopular. A true leader. We find these qualities to be positive, as all of you probably would if it had a different name. What's wrong with standing up for what you believe in?

Unfathomable? Quite the contrary. It's an elitist group. It's a bit selfish. It's about loving those who have earned your love and not wasting love on ingrates. It appeals to many artists and intellectuals. They are everywhere. Doctors, lawyers, students, cops, actors, hollywood celebrities. Many do not talk about it as they fear social stigma.

Most importantly it's about believing in yourself and doing whatever makes you happy (as long as it's not hurting anyone that does not wish to be hurt) We are completely intolerant to intolerance. Everything is ok with us. Gay marriage, for example, is perfectly fine if that is what you wish for yourself. It's about being responsible for your own actions. There is no god or devil to hide behind. If we do something wrong, we must go through the consequences. It's just about being happy and doing what you want to do and not worrying about a hell.

"How can there be sin if there is no one to sin against" you ask. Well, your probably looking at that word "sin" too literally. I think of it as morals and ethics. So, scratch that word sin, if it helps you to understand.

Which brings up your next question, and one I am repulsed by if I do say so....

"If there is no one to sin against, what keeps me, or anyone else, from doing whatever we want?"

This is a very sick statement, and I've heard other religious folk say it too...as if "god" is the only thing keeping you from murdering one another or doing all sorts of terrible things. You want to kill and rape people? I don't want to at all.... It has nothing to do with religion or God. First of all, it's disgusting! I hate death. Satanists cherish LIFE not death. We dont believe in an afterlife so we want to make the most of our time here on earth. We want to live good lives.

And if my morals arent a good enough answers to that awful question that indicated we all secretely deep down want to commit horrible crimes, then how about just the fact that we live in a society? With rules and standards. We dont want to get murdered or raped, so why would we want to do that to someone else? This is a society. We are supposed to be civilized. And why would we want to go to jail?

But really, I can't even go into the logic of the question. I'm still too sickened by the ethics involved....it's really a problem if anyone actually can say that they would murder all sorts of people if it wasnt for God's law condemning it...not cool.

I don't want children, but if I ever had them, yes I would certainly raise them Satanist. I think it's a healthy lifestyle and a positive outlook on life.

"Your soul can be required of you at any moment. I'm telling you, believe in Christ with fruit worthy of repentance and you will be saved. If not, you will die in your sins that you say don't exist."

You end your statement with a petty threat of hell, trying to appeal to my fears, since there is no logical basis for your claims. You do this simply because you can't understand that other religions exist out there....this is just too strange to understand. You wouldnt attack a Muslim or Jew like that?

I'm tired of all the fear and scares that come when talking about Satanism. It's just another religion with different morals. We arent criminals. We dont rob stores. We are not in gangs. If anything, I'd wager a higher I.Q. on many Satanists compared to other mainstream religions. They tend to be more down to earth and understanding. More productive too. We will go out there and get what we seek. We won't pray for it and hope it comes to us.

Hope this helps!
Satanism in my opinion isn't a progressive philosophy or religion because it basically teaches to love others that love you and hate those who hate you. This can be seen in your statement, "It's about loving those who have earned your love and not wasting love on ingrates." But even the Bible teaches us discretion in Matthew 7:6.

If God is our Creator then it would be our duty to conform to his will. And if he created us with the same love he exhibited in Genesis, even giving the man a spouse out of pitty for him, then it follows that he wants what is best for us whether or not he is a totalitarian dictator. There were instances in the Bible where it is implied that even some slaves in the culture would love their masters so much that they would choose to serve them for life.

Without the concept of selfless love we would not have the moving story of the Gospel. And the same God who killed sinners also died for them. This is not a two-faced, corrupt dictator which we need to rebel against. God has a set of moral laws, which I believe can be broken down into categories of justice (eye-for-an-eye is the very definition of justice) and preventative measures.

Satanism also seems to advocate this eye-for-an-eye justice but on a personal level. And when these measures are observed on a personal level rather than in the courtroom then there is more room for error - more room for one's emotions to cloud their sense of justice when they are victim, jury and judge. God's teachings of mercy, I believe, arise from a desire to prevent incidents from having to go to court. This is why I believe in mercy in personal life and justice in law. One can love unconditionally without sacrificing pragmatism.

Now if Satanism is a philosophy of love then I embrace that particular aspect of it, because that is what God teaches. But Satanism is a philosophy of love inasmuch as the other person continues to return that love. There is no noble teaching within it with respect to love, because man is lowered to the status of an animal that acts on instinct. If you bite me then I bite back.

And, like many worldly doctrines, it has an appearance of logic and is good in theory, but when tried fails the test of practicality (practicality being what works best for a society in real life).
 
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a satanist i met on imvu once told me he was a satanist then i invited him to my house on imvu and i interviewed him on the religion he told me that many

satanist do not worship the devil they do not believe that the creature exist he said many of them do not believe in god or satan he said in satanism you worship your

self and you believe that you are own god he said its nothing like in the movies they do no killings or dark magic they just don't believe in god nor satan they

only wont people to believe that they do to scare them and feel powerful bring fear to Christians but satanist praise and worship themselves and thats about it.

what i cant understand is how is it called satanism if they don't believe in satan

 
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a satanist i met on imvu once told me he was a satanist then i invited him to my house on imvu and i interviewed him on the religion he told me that many

satanist do not worship the devil they do not believe that the creature exist he said many of them do not believe in god or satan he said in satanism you worship your

self and you believe that you are own god he said its nothing like in the movies they do no killings or dark magic they just don't believe in god nor satan they

only wont people to believe that they do to scare them and feel powerful bring fear to Christians but satanist praise and worship themselves and thats about it.

what i cant understand is how is it called satanism if they don't believe in satan
Sounds like selfism to me, not satanism. ;)

And regarding the illuminati.. it dates back all the way to the tower of babel. They use symbolism and numerology to promote the idea that man is greater than God. Study the occult for further explanation.
 
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a satanist i met on imvu once told me he was a satanist then i invited him to my house on imvu and i interviewed him on the religion he told me that many

satanist do not worship the devil they do not believe that the creature exist he said many of them do not believe in god or satan he said in satanism you worship your

self and you believe that you are own god he said its nothing like in the movies they do no killings or dark magic they just don't believe in god nor satan they

only wont people to believe that they do to scare them and feel powerful bring fear to Christians but satanist praise and worship themselves and thats about it.

what i cant understand is how is it called satanism if they don't believe in satan
Because to them Satan is just the personification of the idea of self worship. More of a symbol than a deity or god. They just use that symbol as a central device and standard for their beliefs.
 
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I'm disgusted... at some of the comments I've read here. It would seem that there is a strong opposition to other points of view here. Tell me, why is it so wrong to believe in something different? everyone is their own person. so everyone has the right to think the way they want to think. To think the way you do is regressive. if you've studied history at all, then you'd know that humanity started to progress rapidly only after religion has started to be questioned. If you choose to blindly follow a religion, and not think critically about its teachings, then you deserve no freedom. Millions of people have dies over the past centuries because people have thought that their way was the only way. Islamic extremists have attacked the United States because they refuse to accept that others can think differently if they want. Listen, the bible is all a metaphore. none of it is literal. the bible does not teach us that we are all dirt, and must follow everything to the letter, and what the priests say, because we are not smart enought to find our own way. The medieval church used that to control all of europe, and nothing ever progressed until people started to challenge the dogma, and think differently. Christianity is not about control, it's not a set of guidelines on how we MUST run our lives. it is a set of morals and guidelines on how we should run our lives to be happy. The creation of heaven and hell is just a device to scare people into living well with others. The bible was written by man, for man, to help us live and flourish. and heaven and hell are concepts made by man to scare others, or provide an incentive for living well and honestly.
 
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I'm disgusted... at some of the comments I've read here. It would seem that there is a strong opposition to other points of view here. Tell me, why is it so wrong to believe in something different? everyone is their own person. so everyone has the right to think the way they want to think. To think the way you do is regressive. if you've studied history at all, then you'd know that humanity started to progress rapidly only after religion has started to be questioned. If you choose to blindly follow a religion, and not think critically about its teachings, then you deserve no freedom. Millions of people have dies over the past centuries because people have thought that their way was the only way. Islamic extremists have attacked the United States because they refuse to accept that others can think differently if they want. Listen, the bible is all a metaphore. none of it is literal. the bible does not teach us that we are all dirt, and must follow everything to the letter, and what the priests say, because we are not smart enought to find our own way. The medieval church used that to control all of europe, and nothing ever progressed until people started to challenge the dogma, and think differently. Christianity is not about control, it's not a set of guidelines on how we MUST run our lives. it is a set of morals and guidelines on how we should run our lives to be happy. The creation of heaven and hell is just a device to scare people into living well with others. The bible was written by man, for man, to help us live and flourish. and heaven and hell are concepts made by man to scare others, or provide an incentive for living well and honestly.
Is this what you are going to say to Jesus when you stand before Him in judgement?
 
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I'm disgusted... at some of the comments I've read here. It would seem that there is a strong opposition to other points of view here. Tell me, why is it so wrong to believe in something different? everyone is their own person. so everyone has the right to think the way they want to think. To think the way you do is regressive. if you've studied history at all, then you'd know that humanity started to progress rapidly only after religion has started to be questioned. If you choose to blindly follow a religion, and not think critically about its teachings, then you deserve no freedom. Millions of people have dies over the past centuries because people have thought that their way was the only way. Islamic extremists have attacked the United States because they refuse to accept that others can think differently if they want. Listen, the bible is all a metaphore. none of it is literal. the bible does not teach us that we are all dirt, and must follow everything to the letter, and what the priests say, because we are not smart enought to find our own way. The medieval church used that to control all of europe, and nothing ever progressed until people started to challenge the dogma, and think differently. Christianity is not about control, it's not a set of guidelines on how we MUST run our lives. it is a set of morals and guidelines on how we should run our lives to be happy. The creation of heaven and hell is just a device to scare people into living well with others. The bible was written by man, for man, to help us live and flourish. and heaven and hell are concepts made by man to scare others, or provide an incentive for living well and honestly.
Lol on one hand you're saying people should have the freedom to choose their beliefs, then you turn and lambaste those of us who have chosen to believe what we believe.

Love it when the 'tolerant' are 'tolerant'.