Piercings and Tattoos?

[sweetheart728]

i just wanted to answer the poll...
AND I DONT WANT ANYBODY TO COMMENT OR QUOTE ME BECAUSE YOUR OPP. DOES NOT MATTER TO ME WITH THIS ISSUE...
THIS IS FOR TRYINGTOFINDHIM TO ANSWER HER POST.... NOT FOR YOU TO ELABORATE ON!!!

now with that being said... i dont do the whole piercing thing well... because you have to take care of it and blah blah blah!!!
i would get a tat ( of as cross on the upper right portion of my back.... like right on the back of my sholder) thats fly right... i kno... lolz

i think its your motivies and the message of the tat that matters...

basically as long as its nothing provocative or murderly.... lolz (i kno its not a word)

AGAIN DO NOT COMMENT OR QUOTE ME UNLESS YOUR SCREENNAME IS TRYING TO FIND ME BECAUSE ITS TO ANSWER THE THREAD!!!
AND WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OPP!!!

 

[dustyzafu]

I'm pretty sure that modern prohibitions of tattoos are opinions seeking support; i.e. people don't dislike tattoos because of Levitical law, but use it as a post hoc rationalization. It's the long association of tattoos with barbarians, heathens, criminals, the imprisoned, bikers, veterans, etc. that causes the kneejerk reaction. It doesn't help that, being a fringe art form, the subject matter was often intentionally chosen to extort reactions from the mainstream.

Prohibition of tattoo is a cultural opinion, not a religious one, even if some choose to couch it in religious language. People worked up righteous anger over bras, so it's hard to take an opinion seriously just because it's strong. It's a waste of credibility, however - frantic responses to ink just means someone doesn't have their priorities straight.

 

[tryingtofindhim]

i just wanted to answer the poll...
AND I DONT WANT ANYBODY TO COMMENT OR QUOTE ME BECAUSE YOUR OPP. DOES NOT MATTER TO ME WITH THIS ISSUE...
THIS IS FOR TRYINGTOFINDHIM TO ANSWER HER POST.... NOT FOR YOU TO ELABORATE ON!!!

now with that being said... i dont do the whole piercing thing well... because you have to take care of it and blah blah blah!!!
i would get a tat ( of as cross on the upper right portion of my back.... like right on the back of my sholder) thats fly right... i kno... lolz

i think its your motivies and the message of the tat that matters...

basically as long as its nothing provocative or murderly.... lolz (i kno its not a word)

AGAIN DO NOT COMMENT OR QUOTE ME UNLESS YOUR SCREENNAME IS TRYING TO FIND ME BECAUSE ITS TO ANSWER THE THREAD!!!
AND WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OPP!!!

Oh ya piercings can be bad if you don't take care of them you can get them infected and all that fun jaz. Yes I agree the motive is the most important thing.

 

[dustin]

i never get eitehr i am cry baby with needels

 

[Thetimehascome]

How many of you have piecings and tattoos? I have several piercings and one tattoo.
I'm just curious how many teens how one of these mentions above.

Is there some verse of the Bible written that we can used piercings?

 

[tryingtofindhim]

Is there some verse of the Bible written that we can used piercings?

NO, but there isn't one saying we can't according to my understanding, under the new covenant.

 

[timjim]

First off you have no right to start judging me. It sounds like because I don't see any problems with piercings or tattoos, that you automatically assume I'm not an actual christian. So first off I honestly would lay down my life for Christ. I forget what thread it was on but I was just talking about that actually. I was saying how much of an honour it would be for God to let me suffer for my belief in him. I am not readily accepting a tattoo, I am choosing a tattoo that I want, and that glorifies God. I'm also not someone to just ignore advice. I have taken tons of advice. Without advice I would still be in the mess that God saved me from. I do listen, but when I see no reason to believe what people are pushing on me, than why would i take that advice?

What makes you think I was talking about you I didn't even know you existed. I find it interesting that the ones who defend the strongest are probably the ones that feel the most guilty.

And maybe or maybe its not the actual mark; but I sure wouldn't take it.

That's the biggest thing going around right now, "You don't judge me and I don't judge you." I don't need to judge anyone the Bible does that for me. Isn't that what this sight is all about to share our knowledge of the Bible and Christianity with others. And be sides that it does not mater what we think and what our heart says( the heart is decitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?) Jeremiah 17:9 The truth is the truth and it can be found in the Bible. I'm not perfect by any means but the Bible says that we are not to love the world or the things that are in the world if anyone loves the world the love of the father is not in him.

Just because we say this is right or that is right does not mean that it is so. Thers is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Proverbs 14:12.

I could get everyone to love me and say how I think God honors any thing that we do as long as we call ourselves Christians. But that would be a lie and if I realy love others I am going to tell them the truth. If I told you what you want to hear I would be trying to bring glory to myself so that everyone would like me.

Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

 

[Cako53]

What makes you think I was talking about you I didn't even know you existed. I find it interesting that the ones who defend the strongest are probably the ones that feel the most guilty.

And maybe or maybe its not the actual mark; but I sure wouldn't take it.

That's the biggest thing going around right now, "You don't judge me and I don't judge you." I don't need to judge anyone the Bible does that for me. Isn't that what this sight is all about to share our knowledge of the Bible and Christianity with others. And be sides that it does not mater what we think and what our heart says( the heart is decitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?) Jeremiah 17:9 The truth is the truth and it can be found in the Bible. I'm not perfect by any means but the Bible says that we are not to love the world or the things that are in the world if anyone loves the world the love of the father is not in him.

Just because we say this is right or that is right does not mean that it is so. Thers is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Proverbs 14:12.

I could get everyone to love me and say how I think God honors any thing that we do as long as we call ourselves Christians. But that would be a lie and if I realy love others I am going to tell them the truth. If I told you what you want to hear I would be trying to bring glory to myself so that everyone would like me.

Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

Okay great...

first off I am not feeling guilty, but simply sick and tired of people telling me that my piercings are sins. And your post did not help me in anyway as to answering my question.

 

[timjim]

Okay great...

first off I am not feeling guilty, but simply sick and tired of people telling me that my piercings are sins. And your post did not help me in anyway as to answering my question.

Sorry I shouldn't have said that I didn't know you existed. I looked back and seen that you had written a quote before I made that statement so it might have been partly based on what you said. But it was a couple of days ago and I just forgot

See like I said I'm not perfect.

 

[Cako53]

Sorry I shouldn't have said that I didn't know you existed. I looked back and seen that you had written a quote before I made that statement so it might have been partly based on what you said. But it was a couple of days ago and I just forgot

See like I said I'm not perfect.

It's fine. So do you think that piercings are a sin? if so, why?

 

[timjim]

It's fine. So do you think that piercings are a sin? if so, why?

Well I will say this I am a guy and I feel like wearing and earing is effeminate. whether on the right or left ear.There was a time when I had long hair and almost got one. ( I wasn't a Christian then).


Now as far as whether women should wear and earing or not. look up 1 Timothy 2:9-10 and judge for yourself.

You see you can take away a persons tatoos and earings and whatever else and that is not what saves him. The problem that arises is a lot of people who do some of these things are just doing them to be more like the world and so the world execps them. Because if you think about it,doesn't it almost seem more like bondage to go around with your body all marked up and nose rings. And some people even have a tongue ring and to me that would be a pain to have to try to eat with.

So as you can see people go way out of the way to excepted by the world. When they forget to realize what matters the most is what God thinks of you.

Something to think about.

 

[Cako53]

Well I will say this I am a guy and I feel like wearing and earing is effeminate. whether on the right or left ear.There was a time when I had long hair and almost got one. ( I wasn't a Christian then).


Now as far as whether women should wear and earing or not. look up 1 Timothy 2:9-10 and judge for yourself.

You see you can take away a persons tatoos and earings and whatever else and that is not what saves him. The problem that arises is a lot of people who do some of these things are just doing them to be more like the world and so the world execps them. Because if you think about it,doesn't it almost seem more like bondage to go around with your body all marked up and nose rings. And some people even have a tongue ring and to me that would be a pain to have to try to eat with.

So as you can see people go way out of the way to excepted by the world. When they forget to realize what matters the most is what God thinks of you.

Something to think about.

Well your first statement is simply how you feel and not biblical, so really it holds no ground. Just as my statements without biblical backing hold no ground.

I also don't really think that your verse you gave me really showed that piercings or tattoos aren't aloud.

The thing is, that where I am from my piercings go against the society. I live in a little hick town, where I wear tight jeans, and piercings, I don't exactly fit in, so therefor I am not doing it to be accepted. Maybe to you it seems like bondage, but to me it seems the opposite. It is a view of my freedoom, and I like them. Just how when you like a certain food, you enjoy eating it. I like certain piercings so I got them.

I'm pretty sure if God still calls us his kids and accepts us back after we have sinned countless times, that he isn't going to think illly of us if we have a piercing or tattoo.

 

[timjim]

Well your first statement is simply how you feel and not biblical, so really it holds no ground. Just as my statements without biblical backing hold no ground.

I also don't really think that your verse you gave me really showed that piercings or tattoos aren't aloud.

The thing is, that where I am from my piercings go against the society. I live in a little hick town, where I wear tight jeans, and piercings, I don't exactly fit in, so therefor I am not doing it to be accepted. Maybe to you it seems like bondage, but to me it seems the opposite. It is a view of my freedoom, and I like them. Just how when you like a certain food, you enjoy eating it. I like certain piercings so I got them.

I'm pretty sure if God still calls us his kids and accepts us back after we have sinned countless times, that he isn't going to think illly of us if we have a piercing or tattoo.

You are right my first statement was how I feel. You asked me to tell you how I feel and that is what I have done.

One thing I will leave you with is. The Bible says to prove all things; Hold fast that which is good. I Thessalonians 5:21. So ya you shouldn't go completlely by what I say or anyone else. And instead of asking the question is it OK to do this or that . We should ask the question, Is it profitable to do this or that.

 

[Cako53]

You are right my first statement was how I feel. You asked me to tell you how I feel and that is what I have done.

One thing I will leave you with is. The Bible says to prove all things; Hold fast that which is good. I Thessalonians 5:21. So ya you shouldn't go completlely by what I say or anyone else. And instead of asking the question is it OK to do this or that . We should ask the question, Is it profitable to do this or that.

Well I don't see the harm in it, and it isn't bringing me down, yet it isn't really bringing me up, so I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

[Kathleen]

Well, how are tattoos disrespecting your body? You can get God glorifying tattoos. The two tattoos I want to get are both giving glory to God.

have u cut ur plans down from 3 to 2? because on the 'Tattoos' thread u quite clearly say 'i have 3 planned'...u want Living Word and ur name in hebrew and 3 crosses saying progress not perfection.
How does having ur name inked on u - glorify God. I mean , cant u rmember ur own name.
Secondly having the Living Word in hebrew, imo, is also silly - not to mention that u probably cant even read hebrew (although u plan to)

First off, I wouldn't clasify a piercing as a cutting. But are you saying with Leviticus 19:28 that if I were to cut myself by accident it would be a sin. If I slipped and fell and cut my hand, that would be me sinning? Now when you are saying any, take not of the punctuation. it is a comma and therefor a pause refering to the same topic as before. if it were a semicolon than I could be sure to it not refering to the dead as a semi colon seperates two thoughts.
As for our bodies being the temply of the Holy Ghost, tattoose or piercings are not harming hte temple of God, nor are they destroying it. So I still have seen no harm in it.
How do piercings not glorify God? I can reverse the question, but I also will answer your question. Not necesarly do they glorify God, but the fact is piercings do honestly open me up to a whole new crowd or people to share the Truth with.
Nor am I editing or changing myself, I am simply adding on. I can easily say I am decorating the temply of God.
Again for this one, I do believe that God made us in perfection and we fell to sin. Either way it doesn't mean that it is a sin to add a piercing or a tattoo.
You keep insisting that it is a sin, yet I have seen no solid proof that it is a sin. So a lot of your arguments have flaws because the backbone of them are that piercings and tattoos are sins.
Again we are not cutting ourselves.
Now if you are saying that because I have piercings I am at more risk to be under satanic attack, that is utterly ridiculous. They got those piercings, and cut themselves, for witchcraft, and other satanic stuff, I didn't get mine in a satanic manner. I got them for my self.
Now as for your last statement about the final days, I find that it has absoloutly no relevance to our topic.

about the cutting thing : when i said any marks i didnt say cuts. Also their is a diffrence in on purposly cutting or marking in comparison to accidenlty cutting and marking. Did i ever say that they would be harming or destroyiong the temple of the Holy Spirit - no?! so either u have misunderstood or twisted my words. What i said was that ur body is not ur own u have no permission from God to allow u to do these things to disrespect ur body.
Peiricngs r not 'glorifying God' - i mean how can having mental rods in ur ears glorify God?
How can u say u r not editing if u r adding on! How can u not say u r changing urselfs hysical outward apperance by adding on?! what?!

look:

i were to right this say 2 hours ago:
i sat on my hat

and then 2 years later i make it:
I sat on my hat. :O

i have edited it from the orgiginal masterpeice it is - by adding on or changing it!

well if u found the last bit about the chip irrelevent - u r more nieve than i thought.

do you follow all the levitical laws? If not you shouldn't refer to any one of them either you follow all of them or none of them

i do follow most
the ones that have not been over written by the new covenent. To many Christians now adays think that if u quote one thing u have to fololow the rest,, to many people belive that the whole of the OT was overwrittten by that in the NT. Seriously - i do follow what i can see has not been overwritten. This being one of them.

 

[Kathleen]

ok so i was just looking over the the thread and i feel bad for call kathlene foolish... im sorry...
but i stand by EVERYTHING else i said...
tryingtofindhim just wanted to take a poll nothin more nothin less.... and here people go... its a sin... its not a sin ....its ungodly its not ungodly....
the truth of the matter is Gods love is unfailing so if you color your hair and paint your nails or put weave in your hair... God loves you and he just wants us to vessels of honor.... now you can take that anyway you want...
if have a tat is not a conviction in any way then do you.... if having a peircing doesnt convict you... then do you...

enough said!!!!

thats right - enough said. You have said enough for me to see ur views. But I must say ur rather weird views and ur rather Ungodly avatar shows alot about urself. I mean if u really are a Christian why are u showing ur fingers in that manner - i mean come on! - not really appropriate for this site, or for anything.
As for ur veiws, they r right to point. I mean u r right, Gods love is unfailing ...and God loves you and he wants us to be vessles of honour. But with that being said how can u then go and say the tattoos and peircings are okay?

 

[Jenny87]

I see we're still debating over this topic even though the first poster didn't mean for this whole mess to happen....
So I found this great verse that might lighten up this situation.

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." -1st John 2:15

I understand most of you are teenagers and think that piercings and tattoos are "cool".
I should know, I was once interested in getting a tattoo and lip piercings until I became a believer.
So...for those of you who are pro tat and piercings, what are you trying to say?
I understand normal ear piercings, but holes on your lips, eye brow, etc. ?

[Leaning more toward the piercings]
If I came across someone like that, (lip rings, huge ear gauges, nose ring, etc.) I most certainly wouldn't think they were Christian.
Most people from where I live would get a negative view on that person...by that I mean, people would think the person commits to inappropriate acts.
(I hope you all understand as I'm a terrible explainer, so please bare with me)

A few months ago in church, the pastor gave this perfect explanation on this topic which went something like this:
"Wanting to have body piercings is the lust of the flesh, not a desire of the Spirit. Those people accepting these trends are embracing dangerous practices that may seem harmless, but are about as harmless as an Adder. Just because something "seems" harmless to the naive, doesn't mean that it is."

"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." - 1st John 2:16

Now, Christians branding themselves with tattoos is an unnatural way of destroying their body, which God has deemed His Holy Temple.
God says, "nor print any marks upon you."

 

[Kathleen]

I see we're still debating over this topic even though the first poster didn't mean for this whole mess to happen....
So I found this great verse that might lighten up this situation.

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." -1st John 2:15

I understand most of you are teenagers and think that piercings and tattoos are "cool".
I should know, I was once interested in getting a tattoo and lip piercings until I became a believer.
So...for those of you who are pro tat and piercings, what are you trying to say?
I understand normal ear piercings, but holes on your lips, eye brow, etc. ?

[Leaning more toward the piercings]
If I came across someone like that, (lip rings, huge ear gauges, nose ring, etc.) I most certainly wouldn't think they were Christian.
Most people from where I live would get a negative view on that person...by that I mean, people would think the person commits to inappropriate acts.
(I hope you all understand as I'm a terrible explainer, so please bare with me)

A few months ago in church, the pastor gave this perfect explanation on this topic which went something like this:
"Wanting to have body piercings is the lust of the flesh, not a desire of the Spirit. Those people accepting these trends are embracing dangerous practices that may seem harmless, but are about as harmless as an Adder. Just because something "seems" harmless to the naive, doesn't mean that it is."

"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." - 1st John 2:16

Now, Christians branding themselves with tattoos is an unnatural way of destroying their body, which God has deemed His Holy Temple.
God says, "nor print any marks upon you."

great way to put it - well done - its great to see other people with the same veiws as me and timjim

 

[sweetheart728]

lil girl.... ohhhhhhhhh....
ok... im going to pray for you!!
because you are judging me and since your so hollier then thou then you would know that God tells us not to do that....
but its whateva.... you are young and have have alot to learn about it life and in your spiritual walk so i'll spear you...
but i will tell you this.... God will be as hard on you as you are on others... soooooo be careful...
and btw.... my pic is fly and it shows that i have a personality....

 

[Jenny87]

I feel the need to be the referee here...

For those who are quick to temper, why do you feel the need to be so hostile?
Is there any righteousness in that?

Refrain from anger, and forsake wrath!
Fret not yourself; it tends only to evil.


—Psalm 37:8

A hot-tempered man stirs up strife,
but he who is slow to anger quiets contention.


—Proverbs 15:18

Let's all keep our attitudes holy.
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@ Kathleen: Thank you for the feedback.

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Now, let us continue on with the subject in peace.