predestination?

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dru

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Ok so i've thinking to myself in connection with how my christian life has been the last couple of weeks,i have been battling with youthful emotions and feelings(im happy that im born again,in fact i ask myself questions like what i died before receiving Christ and then end up in hell,how suprised i would have been because i lived thinking im an evolved creature and theres no such thing as god,and big bang theories etc) and i feel like im going to loose in this fight against temptation.i also understand that you cannot sin so that grace may abound etc i pretty much understand the terms of getting into heaven.like when judas became a disciple,he was obviously overjoyed because he was a follower of the son of God,so he was 100% sure he would spend eternity in heaven but unfortunately he wont(not judging) so the bible says that believers were predestined to be children of God before the universe was formed,so my question is this,is there a chance i was not predestined to go to heaven and if so could God have saved me by just simply not creating me because,like before 26 june 1993(my birth day) i couldnt worry,work,suffer,love etc and i would have ever done anything to upset God(and there were times in my life i could have given anything to return to that state) also a life long friend of mine commited suicide late october this year,he left a note saying he had given up in life,he hurt his moms feelings etc he was born in a disfunctional family(divorced parrents ,'mis behaving' sisters etc)what hurt me the most is that about a month before he died, i had shown him a recorded sermon and asked him if he wanted to get born again,he said he would think about it then we never talked again,is there a chance he might have received Christ while alone then killed himself later(would he go into heaven) btw before i got born again we used to do drugs together,i have pretty much lost 99% of my friends because they heard im born again.plus my friend did have alot of domestic problems.help me understand :(
 
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dru

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dru said:
Ok so i've thinking to myself in connection with how my christian life has been the last couple of weeks,i have been battling with youthful emotions and feelings(im happy that im born again,in fact i ask myself questions like what i died before receiving Christ and then end up in hell,how suprised i would have been because i lived thinking im an evolved creature and theres no such thing as god,and big bang theories etc) and i feel like im going to loose in this fight against temptation.i also understand that you cannot sin so that grace may abound etc i pretty much understand the terms of getting into heaven.like when judas became a disciple,he was obviously overjoyed because he was a follower of the son of God,so he was 100% sure he would spend eternity in heaven but unfortunately he wont(not judging) so the bible says that believers were predestined to be children of God before the universe was formed,so my question is this,is there a chance i was not predestined to go to heaven and if so could God have saved me by just simply not creating me because,like before 26 june 1993(my birth day) i couldnt worry,work,suffer,love etc and i would have ever done anything to upset God(and there were times in my life i could have given anything to return to that state) also a life long friend of mine commited suicide late october this year,he left a note saying he had given up in life,he hurt his moms feelings etc he was born in a disfunctional family(divorced parrents ,'mis behaving' sisters etc)what hurt me the most is that absout a month before he died, i had shown him a recorded sermon and asked him if he wanted to get born again,he said he would think about it then we never talked again,is there a chance he might have received Christ while alone then killed himself later(would he go into heaven) btw before i got born again we used to do drugs together,i have pretty much lost 99% of my friends because they heard im born again.plus my friend did have alot of domestic problems.help me understand :(
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kenisyes

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These are hard but important questions. Everyone is predestined to get saved. Not everyone chooses to follow their destiny. It's like everyone gets a letter in their mailbox, but not everyone goes to pick it up to read it. Thoughts like you are having are quite normal; God is just giving you a firmer, and more adult commitment to Him. He is making you deal with the thoughts, so you will know for certain that he is what you want. Then you will have answers to grow even more (and face more challenges for Him at age 20). Judas made a CHOICE; you are free to make the other one, which is what it sounds like you have done. I don't know about your friend who killed himself. Most people would say you cannot go to heaven if you kill yourself, but you point out about the drugs, and that makes him sound pretty confused. God's ways are above our ways, and we really don't know if Jesus showed up just as your friend was dying, and ministered to him personally. Losing your friends is normal: They nailed Jesus to the cross; to the extent that He is present in you, they will try it again.

Do you have Christians you can pray with and hang around with? You need to get some. That will solve some of the problems. And you need to realize that God has so much more for you in your life. You have only been saved a year. Give His glory time to show forth. There is growing to do, and transformations yet to happen. Look at the good side. 1. You did not kill yourself. 2. God let you be here, not so much to worry, work and suffer, but to know His greatness, ask these questions, know His love, and, I promise you it's yet to come, know His glory in your life, and feel His joy.
 
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dru

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I guess your right about how everyone receives a letter,and maybe God does have a hard time seeing people die,knowing that this 'innorcent' baby will grow upto become hitler etc anyways thanks kenisyes(for real)
 
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kenisyes

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And it's great to see how sensitive you are to His feelings about such things.
 
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