Sister.....

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imTastik

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Ok so I have this huuuuuuuuge mahooooooosive problem in my life that's just really making me fume. Basically to cut a long story short. Just when my sister had gone 15 she started going out with this boy who was around 18 and a half at the time.....they're still together now but constantly this boy has just done my head in, sometimes where I'm to the point of tears or even shouting out stuff at them because I'm so annoyed with him. For a start I don't agree with their age gap...she's now 16 and he's going on 20. It's not realistic at such a young age...it's a bit different at an older age. For a start both my mum and his dad said nothing could happen until my sister was sixteen....they chose to disobey both of them and were almost a year younger than what they'd agreed on. He treats her like a child and it really hacks me off, it's like he's her dad! Last night he came to help her sort her wardrobe out and he were saying here name (not posting their names just incase anyone in my family tries to search for this) but he said to her "right where's this going?!" "just take it downstairs" and I really wanted to go into that room and just scream at him. That's not the first time he's done that, it's just constantly!

The other month, around about June I were out babysitting and just playing around on facebook when I got a message on their pretty much asking what my problem was so I said to my friend "I'm not replying" so up until the other week, about four week ago I just left it. However, one day after college I knew my sister posted questions on this forum thing and shed been saying that they were going to get engaged.......next year! Well that was it for me, I felt so angry inside. I sent him a reply straight away asking him what the heck he was thinking. He replied asking me why I thought that and I replied to him saying that they're both waaaay too young and that he treats her like a child. That they argue way too much....because they see each other too much. Anyway I got a reply pretty much denying everything I'd said and because Im living back in my hometown during term time I could only go by what I knew from the past. He said they hardly ever saw each other....I wasn't going to call him a liar because I couldn't say whether he was around much. But in the past he'd been around every day of the week sometimes. Not for just half an hour or so or for even a couple of hours. Generally from 9am/10am going on 10pm/11pm and then once he'd gotten home they'd ring each other! He'd just swan in whenever he wanted and expect my mum to make his meals! Anyway....I didn't say anymore about the fact I thought they saw too much of each other and I just left it at that. I came back to my mums a week on Thursday ago (17th) and at 7pm he was around for the whole evening. The next day he was around for the majority of the day. On the Saturday he were here for the whole day and because Church had been cancelled because of snow on Sunday he came around then too and spent the whole day. Now in the first few initial messages I'd sent to him I'd said that I was sick of him coming around so much because I never got time with my sister....we don't....she never speaks to me. If she does she's usually having a go at me. Anyway on Christmas eve he was around for the whole day and during the afternoon a couple of my friends came around and they know that he does my head in so we were talking about the fact it's ridiculous how much he comes round and I said "if he comes round tomorrow at any point. I'll go flippin mental!" anyway that night we had a Christmas carol service and they'd been together all day, the service finished at midnight, I went back at about half 12 to find he was still there. For another twenty minutes or so he was still there. On Christmas morning just after the service at church he was around for a good 45 minutes and then at night he was there from 7pm til around 11. Then yesterday he came too....all day!! Church has been cancelled today too because we've had quite a few meetings this week so I'm guessing he'll be around today until around 11 tonight. When they're not together, they're on the phone....for three or four hours at a time. It's like an addiction! Please just tell me that I'm not being completely unrealistic when I say they spend way too much time together and that he completely lied when he said they spend hardly anytime together!

It's driving me nuts....the fact he lied to me! The fact that everytime I get frustrated because of him that my sister and my mum have a go at me. All I want is my family to have some time together! My sisters way too young to think about getting engaged or married! Am I going crazy or are they being absolutely ridiculous?!
 
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imTastik

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Hmmm anyone?.....
 
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Matthew

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I know I'm in the wrong forum but I wanted to reply to you...

First off your not wrong, it's normal to want your family to be close and spending time together, at this time of year especially so I think your feelings are normal, what you describe I have witnessed in the past as well and I know how it feels to want to scream out in frustration.

From the similar situations in my past I can look back now and say it came down to emotional immaturity and it sounds like your sister is right in the middle of it, first love that seems like the only love and you're right, it is an addiction and probably more like infatuation than real love, but at 16 years those two things seem very much the same.
Those kind of relationships sometimes crash and burn quite fast or they drag out for years slowly getting worse and worse as each person gets older and realises things aren't how they want them to be, it sounds like they are both making typical mistakes.

It's hard to say anything for sure but it sounds to me like your parents are the big factor here, I can emapthise VERY well with a siblings partner coming into the family home in a highly intrusive manner and being the only one noticing how outrageous it is, no matter how mature/independent your sister is she is under the family home and therefore subject to the parents rules, the should limit how often he is allowed to be around especially at times like christmas, it can be tough to find a balance that won't drive your sister away but maybe they could point out to her if she thingks she is mature enough for marriage she should also consider herself mature enough to be considerate to her family.

I'd say maybe talk to your parents privately and try and see if they can understand your feeling, maybe then they can talk to your sister and at least get things a bit more open, but only you know how effective that may be, as for your sister it is just a stage of life and you will probably have to let her work through like we all did at that age, but try not to let your discomfort cause argments between you and her otherwise if and when things go bad with the boyfriend she might not come to you for support, try not to do long term damage to your relationship with her because you dislike her boyfriend.

She sounds quite strong willed and eventually she will probably tire of being treated like a child, but if you get overly critical of her boyfriend you might drive a wedge between you and that'll make things even harder for you and her.
 
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imTastik

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Thanks for the reply :)

I've told my mum time and time again that I'm sick of him being around so much. It ended badly on Christmas day but I just don't know how I can get the point across without arguing. I told my mum "I'm sick of that geek being around all the time. He's a compulsive liar and is down right selfish" to be honest I think I was being pretty fair with what I said, I might have called him a geek but y'know I could have called him much worse than that. By the way like I mentioned I thought he'd be around today they've gone to his grandma and grandad's house......they need a reality check!

Just skimming through my original post I don't see that I posted this....as of Wednesday they're planning to go to my aunties house in York together. She's got a five bedroomed house and I know my sister and him are Christians and my auntie would be really cautious but it's not like she's going to be there to keep an eye on them 24/7....what if they end up sleeping together?! It's very possible that it could happen...I think my mums being ridiculous for allowing them to go away together!

My sister says I should be treating him better and talk to him.....why am I going to talk to him if he lies to me and ignores everything I say....the other day they had an hours argument over the fact that he'd lied by trying to father her saying she'd been cheeky to my mum....then she has the cheek to treat him nicely when all I'm doing is expressing my opinion about him?! She always sees him, always texts and rings. But when I'm away I never get a phone call, a text or even a message on facebook...it's always me and even then she shows no interest. I feel like I haven't even got a sister anymore, when I'm upset she disowns me, when i'm having a laugh she calls me immature
 
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Matthew

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I know what it's like to have no options so I get the way you are feeling, but this may be a case where you've done nothing to create the situation and so you may not be able to do anything to resolve it.

I agree they probably shouldn't be going away together, at 16 years with an older boyfriend I'd say that's asking for trouble and it does surprise me your mother is O.K. with that, but if they do end up making that mistake it may be the event that changes things and makes them slow down and grow up, but I hope for everyone involved it doesn't happen that way.

As for the rest it sounds like a typical case of being blinded by infatutation, it stops you seeing reality in the sense that what's a flaw in everyone else is something perfectly O.K. in the one you're with, that kind of behaviour is one of the major red flags that identifies infatuation from real love, but if they are already arguing to that extent then I think there is a good chance that things will reach a natural end, it probably won't come until they have each made their share of mistakes but it seems like you are on the outside and when it's all over and the dust settles they all may look back and see you were right about some things.

It is a difficult time that tests all the relationships a person has and sometimes it does break people apart, I know it's of little help but like I said at the top, you may have to be a bit of a spectator while your sister goes through this stage, keep being honest when you speak with her and keep yourself available because while your phone might not be ringing now when the relatonship gets really hard it's probably you she'll come back too.
 
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imTastik

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Sorry I will reply to this, Ive just got to becareful about who sees it. But thank you so much for the reply, really appreciate it
 
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swimlove2029

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nope that is honestly crazy...but they need to break up this is freakin rediculius!
 
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NoTearsShed

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Your not crazy or anything you are angry because you hardly spend time with your sister & more because she picks him over you. Honestly instead of getting angry because you feel he takes her away from you should talk to her & your mom.
Second age does NOT really matter as long as they are atleast 3 years apart or less & thats ONLY if one is under 18 & the other is 18 or over.
Its NOT unrealistic. & Instead you should pray to God that if hes the man he choose for her to marry then to please put it in your heart to not hate him so much.
Its not good to hate people especially because they just lied to you Remember if God can forgive US who sin way more than a person who lies to us , then you can talk to him & forgive him for lying to you if he really did lie to you. talk to him & CALMLY not rudely infront of your sister that way if he really is a liar he cannot lie to her & say "she told me this & that" which is not true.
Most of the people lie alot especially people ages 7-20 its part of life its bad to lie but that dont mean everyone will not lie. A thing i dont like but sadly some people still do it, alot T_T
Please Dont hate someone just because they lied to you once about something that THEY may feel is right & not a lie...
for example maybe at the time they wernt spending so much time maybe because she was in school & he was either in college, at work or at home....
So technically he may have not been lying, its not worth you trippen so much about that.
Instead try to understand that shes in love its how most teenagers act, my old besties (best friend) was like that she wanted to spend EVERY day with her boyfriend, its sorta normal for a girl ages 13-17 especially if they are boycrazy or in love & YES you can love someone at a young age, incase anyone says they can't, just because they are young DOES NOT MEAN they dont have a heart & can feel.
So please understand that about your sister & when you pray to God you can also pray that IF hes not the one he choose for her to please not let her love him to please protect her from getting hurt & for her not to end up doing something with him she might regret later like losing her virginity to him.
& also Hunny what you can do is talk to your sister alone or with your mom & her at the same time, first off apologize to her for all the things you have said, & then tell her that you really want to talk to her & for her to "PLEASE" listen to you, tell her that you dont hate her boyfriend but that it started of by you getting annoyed at him because of how you think he treats her like a kid then it went on from her spending so much time with him & not talking to you anymore & then from there how you feel like she picks him over you who is her blood & that she gets angry & snaps at you & on top of that your mom takes his side too so you just feel like they love him more & care about him more yet you who are their blood they seem to go off on instead of understnading you.
you can also tell her that it would be nice if atleast they can call you every now & then even for 10 minutes to talk with you, that you miss your sister & talking to her, & if its possible for her to have a day were he dont come over to your house that way you & her can have a one on one girl chat & hang out like the sisters you both are.

Some tips for you :
DONT go off saying "That nerd" because that right there might shut her off & you will have FAILED at trying to talk to her. Most people shut their ears & dont want to hear anymore when you speak to them rudely of words to them or of one they care about.
Its like if someone told me "Your sister is soooo young & stupid to be with her boyfriend shes ugly & on top of that a nerd," i would right away snap on them & not listen to what they are saying anymore. so try not to call him a nerd or anything when you try talkin to her.
If it helps drink some water
•Take deep breaths when you feel that you want to go off or call him names
Remember God does NOT want us being angry but instead happy =)
pray to God to give you strenght & to put it in her to want to listen to you.
Shes your sister try to respect her when you have that talk no matter how much you want to call him something.

Prayed for you, & her =)
Remember if she loves him & her loves her then let them be, as long as its good in God eyes then you are no one to say its not right,
My mom & dad are more than 3 years apart & im here a CHILD of God & a believer of God so age difference might not be a big problem to God.
As for most people its also not a big problem when it comes to adults & teenagers who already know what they are doing,
Now if she was 12 & he was 18 THEN yes you should REALLY be worried because one she is still not completly grown & smart enough to big choices in her life.

So if it is well in God eyes & her boyfriend will commit to not cheat on her & she will committ to not cheat on him then when they are ready to get Married then please be supportive for your sister =) Thats the best things you could do for her to give her good advice with out cursing or calling people names, & to be there for her.
& when you talk to her try talking to her later on & ask her or your mom if she could atleast wait till shes 18 to get married.
Thats when they say they are the old enough age to know better.

May God bless you & give you wisdom to talk to her with the right words & for her to listen to you when you try speaking to her or when you do speak to her =)
 
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imTastik

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You know what right. The day before NYE I got thinking....why should I be so worried about my sister. If she can't see whats going on then I'll just leave her to it. It's not my job to sort her life out, it's her own. I've got my own life and future to be getting on with. And so as of Thursday night I decided that one of my main aims for 2010 was going to be to get people that I don't even need in my life out of it.
I've done very well so far, I've not lost it with anyone.
I'm not meaning get my sister out of my life, just meaning getting her boyfriend out of my life.
 
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Garrison

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Based on my knowledge of these relationships, they need to be apart more. Good reasoning for yelling at him. I love how you waited it out. I'm impressed. You need to possibly sit down and talk to your sister and point out some obvious facts and let her think.
 
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imTastik

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Oh I have Garrison, she knows exactly what I think of how they are. They argued last night and then today he promised her twice that he'd take her out for dinner, he didn't. He later promised to take her out at tea time, he didn't. He knows fully well that when my dad were around my dad promised us stuff and let us both down. I'm sure he's done it on purpose. But like I said, if peoples lives backfire then it's their own fault. I just think they see each other way too much. Why the heck ring then see each other knowing fully well all they were gonna do were argue? CRAAAAaaaaaaAAAAzzzZZZZZyyyy if you ask me
 
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NoTearsShed

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You know what right. The day before NYE I got thinking....why should I be so worried about my sister. If she can't see whats going on then I'll just leave her to it. It's not my job to sort her life out, it's her own. I've got my own life and future to be getting on with. And so as of Thursday night I decided that one of my main aims for 2010 was going to be to get people that I don't even need in my life out of it.
I've done very well so far, I've not lost it with anyone.
I'm not meaning get my sister out of my life, just meaning getting her boyfriend out of my life.


Thats good dont let them get to you =)
Hes not worth you getting Angry & thank God he put peace in your hear =D
 
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imTastik

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Wow...i can't do anything right in my sisters eyes...I'm nice to her and she's not happy. I say what I knows right...she's not happy. All I did were ask her nicely what shed made and she were dead snappy with me and my mum agreed and I went "Philippa why can't you just be nice to me?" she went "because you said to my boyfriend that you're not getting engaged to my sister" well first of all she needs to get her facts right, I said that I thought it were absolutely wrong and I didn't agree with it. Secondly, this were in November. I've been so nice to her trying to change everything and this week they've hated each other one minute then been best friends the next...I could have gone ape at the two of them...have I? Not at all. So I'm not best pleased at the minute
 
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NoTearsShed

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Wow...i can't do anything right in my sisters eyes...I'm nice to her and she's not happy. I say what I knows right...she's not happy. All I did were ask her nicely what shed made and she were dead snappy with me and my mum agreed and I went "Philippa why can't you just be nice to me?" she went "because you said to my boyfriend that you're not getting engaged to my sister" well first of all she needs to get her facts right, I said that I thought it were absolutely wrong and I didn't agree with it. Secondly, this were in November. I've been so nice to her trying to change everything and this week they've hated each other one minute then been best friends the next...I could have gone ape at the two of them...have I? Not at all. So I'm not best pleased at the minute

Apoligize to her for what you said in the past & then move on, dont let it bother you,
Keep praying & please have patience with your sister.

She dint have to go off on you when you asked her what she was making.
She also needs to understand were your coming from.
Yall both really need to sit down & have a conversation about this WITH POLITE words & attitude.
Ask your mom if she can be with both of you to help yall out, Pray to God to help you out too with right words & opening her heart to hear you out =)
 
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imTastik

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i did apologise to my sister ages ago.
I'm honestly having a really bad week. I don't want to go back to halifax today, i want to be with my mum....i dont know why when she's just called me a liar for no reason.....but i just want to be with my mum.
 
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Garrison

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I hear you. Maybe you should take action and use behind the scenes tactics to get things done. I did that with my brother when he was seeing a freak, and he wasn't even home.